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September 5, 2008 at 5:47 pm #636445
JoBParticipantJenV..
it was always a huge political risk that Sarah Palin would do more to unite the democratic party than she would to draw women or hard right voters to the polls.
I am glad the democratic coffers are doing so well off her.
September 5, 2008 at 5:48 pm #636446
flowerpetalMemberNot being a t.v. watcher, I’m not too familiar with “The Daily Show” nor John Stewart. I received this link from a friend; listened to it and hooted and hollered at work this morning.
Palin, experience and the gender card.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
September 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm #636447
WSMomParticipantI am disheartened that anyone in America found Palin’s speech compelling. After the 2004 election I realized that there are a lot of folks out there willing to believe rhetoric over facts, style over substance.
Only one piece of news made me chuckle this morn. Seattle’s own Wilson sisters have this to say: “Sarah Palin’s views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women. We ask that our song ‘Barracuda’ no longer be used to promote her image. The song ‘Barracuda’ was written in the late 70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women. (The ‘barracuda’ represented the business.) While Heart did not and would not authorize the use of their song at the RNC, there’s irony in Republican strategists’ choice to make use of it there.” If you read the lyrics, the irony is clear…
Album: Road Home (1995)
so this aint the end- i saw you again – today
I had to turn my heart away
you smiled like the sun- kisses for everyone
and tales- it never fails!
you are lying so low in the weeds
i bet you are going to ambush me
you would´ve me down, down, down, down on my knees
oh wouldn´t you, barracuda?
OH!
back over time when we were all trying for free
You met The porpoise & me
no right, no wrong, you are selling a song- a name
whisper game
and if the real thing don´t do the trick
you better make up smth quick
you going to burn, burn, burn, burn, burn it to the wick
ooooh, barracuda!
OH!
´sell me sell you´ the porpoise said
dive down deep down, deeper than
you.. i think that you got the blues too
all that night & all the next
swam without looking back
made for the western pools- silly, silly fools!
the real thing don´t do the trick, no?
you better make up something quick
you going to burn, burn, burn, burn it to the wick
ahh, barra- barracuda!
September 5, 2008 at 5:50 pm #636448
JoBParticipantJenV..
it was always a huge political risk that Sarah Palin would do more to unite the democratic party than she would to draw women or hard right voters to the polls.
I am glad the democratic coffers are doing so well off her.
September 5, 2008 at 6:12 pm #636449
CPMemberI really hated that they used Journey for music as well… why to ruin a great song. But good for the Wilson sisters for sayin’ somethin’!
September 5, 2008 at 6:14 pm #636450
JanSParticipantflowerpetal…thanks for that wonderful John Stewart link…absolutely made my morning :)
September 5, 2008 at 6:20 pm #636451
GenHillOneParticipantThanks, WSMom, I had a moment last night thinking, “Did the Wilsons really okay that?” – guess not.
September 5, 2008 at 6:21 pm #636452
JenVMembergreat article on the press coverage of the RNC and Sarah Palin:
September 5, 2008 at 6:21 pm #636453
flowerpetalMemberGreat! Thanks Jan, then my mission was accomplished!
September 5, 2008 at 6:28 pm #636454
ZenguyParticipantJenV, great article. At first I thought he was being serious.
September 5, 2008 at 9:46 pm #636455
walfredoMemberMcCain reveals the extent of his knowledge of Palin:
Does anything check out?
“You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay — made a profit,” he said, introducing Palin.
Nope. The state sold it at a loss of half a million dollars – and not on eBay. McCain picked her on thinly sourced anecdotes. At best.
September 6, 2008 at 12:30 am #636456
hellonwheelsMemberexcellent summation JenV. If they keep her scripted and isolated from the press, I think she could be in trouble. McCain really pulled a bad one when he allowed the press to be so critized…a man who has patronized the press for 26 years….with his weekly barbecues for the press. I have great faith this is going to backfire in their faces(i.e. The Republicans…) The last eight years and two major elections have wised the public up alot more….I really don’t think it is going to fly……
People still feel the burn from the sell-job we got on George Bush…..( well I was never sold)and no woman in her right mind would be swayed to vote for Sarah….she contradicts everything they were fighting for…
September 6, 2008 at 1:13 am #636457
AnonymousInactive“and no woman in her right mind would be swayed to vote for Sarah….” – hellonwheels
(Great handle, btw)
As a woman voting for McCain/Palin, this statement is offensive.
I completely understand a Democrats position, and even a Democrats bewilderment, as to why someone would vote Republican. It is probably the same as my confusion as to why anyone would vote for Obama.
However, I would never use a statement such as this to get my point across (or a similar statement used yesterday: “voting for McCain is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders).
I don’t see the point in these discussion tactics. To put people down, or belittle people, is completely unproductive and turns so many people off from joining in any conversation.
It goes along with something I said earlier in another thread. Why is there such a need and desire to be RIGHT? To have your argument be the only RIGHT argument (even at the expense of someone else’s feelings)? This is America and this is the beauty of being free…. we all get to make our own choices.
As far as I can tell, Obama is promoting unity and change. His message is clear that he wants our country to unite. Should we unite only if half the country gets “their way”? This is what I don’t understand. Obama’s supporters are vehemently behind this message of his to “change” and “unite” America, yet this very idea is, in no way (imo) practiced, even in our small corner of America.
September 6, 2008 at 1:15 am #636458
TrisketParticipantGO OBAMA!
September 6, 2008 at 1:39 am #636459
AnonymousInactiveSeptember 6, 2008 at 2:04 am #636460
CPMemberNR I ask you again to consider the fact that she/we are talking about people who were SWAYED BY THE SPEECH. You were already on the band wagon, so it’s not directed to you. Do you agree with women who are now voting for McCain solely based on Palin’s speech?
September 6, 2008 at 2:31 am #636461
GenHillOneParticipantI guess if you don’t vet VP candidates or songs, you can randomly throw photos on the big screen too?
http://reedmstech.com/home/2008/09/05/republican-national-convention/
What does this Los Angeles middle school have to do with the RNC?
The 35% of students who were born outside of the U.S., or the 26 languages spoken?
September 6, 2008 at 4:25 am #636462
acemotelParticipanthellonwheels. Agree. A woman voting for McCain because of Palin is a woman voting against her own best interest. And good for Walter Reed school. Regarding the NYC backdrop also (the one that put Giuliani underwater), New York is a good solid blue state. New York and California are worlds away from this woman’s life experiences.
September 6, 2008 at 4:51 am #636463
JanSParticipantI may have said this in another thread, so forgive me. I, as a woman, could not, in good conscience, vote for the McCain-Palin ticket because of one thing especially. Reproductive rights are extremely important to me, and to my daughter, and her children, and all women, and all women’s female children, and grand children. I am amazed at women who say they are “pro-choice”, and for reproductive rights, yet will simply have no problem voting for these two people…based on what? That they’re “Republican”? Oh, please.. Take that label away…what do you have?…support for something that these women say they’re against. Either they’re lying to us or they’re lying to themselves.
and then, there’s gay rights, ..don’t get me started on that. Issues are issues..take the party labels away. I vote for the people who believe in issues the way I do. I assume others do, too. Maybe I shouldn’t make those assumptions anymore.
September 6, 2008 at 5:27 am #636464
acemotelParticipantAnother very troubling position Palin has taken is in favor of aerial hunting of bears and wolves, ostensibly to maintain the population of caribou for land hunters. The practice is universally condemned by environmentalists and scientists for many reasons including extreme cruelty.
September 6, 2008 at 6:23 am #636465
MagpieParticipantI guess she won’t be getting the PETA vote (nice stuffed crab and bear rug with the Comment that she shoots them but doesn’t wear them” plus, according to that illustrious rag, US magazine, her husband was for succession for Alaska, (but that would require her to get a new passport, so since it took her so long to get the first one, that was out of the question.)
September 6, 2008 at 6:52 am #636466
JoBParticipantNew Resident..
“voting for McCain is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders” is not an insult. it is an analogy used to point out that many of the people who vote for the republican ticket are those who are most hurt by republican policies…
“no woman in her right mind would be swayed to vote for Sarah Palin” is a similar statement about the fact that Sarah Palin not only wants to deny women the ability to choose whether to carry their babies to term or to abort.. she wants to deny them a medically assisted termination of toxic pregnancies… where carrying the baby to term is likely to kill the mother.. or the baby is the result of a rape. In addition, she would ban most forms of birth control.
That position is very injurious to women’s health and to their general welfare… therefore, no “woman in her right mind would be swayed to vote for Sarah Palin”.
Both were slightly inflammatory statements.. but likely far less inflammatory than the one the poster would have made if they hadn’t stopped to think first… and most likely a valid assessment of their opinion.
We are allowed to have opinions that you don’t like. Trust me, local republicans have plenty of opinions that i don’t like much either.
But opinions and analogies are not insults, no matter how little you appreciate the point people try to make with them.
September 6, 2008 at 7:07 am #636467
MagpieParticipantI just woke up realizing that I had written succession instead of secession…oops, I do know the difference…
September 6, 2008 at 3:39 pm #636468
hellonwheelsMemberI didn’t articulate my message very well when I said “no woman in her right mind would be swayed to vote for Sarah Palin”…or whatever I said,…
I meant that if they are trying to get the Hillary vote….none of those women would be swayed as it goes against their beliefs.
One thing that should be a huge concern to all Americans is the opportunity that will be given to a Republican victory is the ability to fill 2, possibly 3 Supreme Court seats….an imbalanced Court of socially conservative judges will impact the nations laws for 30, 40, ? years…..Isn’t that old adage that excess in any regard is not advantageous…
NR…there are many ….well not many, but some, lol, Republican office holders that I have a lot of respect for…I think Chuck Hagel has been an outstanding public servant and he is very conservative….
I am actually blown away the way McCain has (and I hate the term “flip flop”..The Fox News Anthem..
that was picked up on within 48 hrs by much of the public….after they required their newsbroadcasters to use the term in regards to Kerry at least 6 times per every half hour…that is a fact..during his campaign..any time I heard someone use the term it changed my whole perspective on them regarding their ability to think..) ….changed positons so rapidly in response to the Conservative side of his party.
I liked McCain over George Bush in the 2000 elections..now I think he is such an opportunist that he has lost all credibility in my mind.
Barak Obama is so intelligent maybe he is too smart for alot of the American public. He has run a brilliant campaign….He is an opportunity for the American public to regain some faith in politics …
September 6, 2008 at 4:07 pm #636469
soclwrkrinmotnMemberThe need to be right? No, I see the need to have unity and change. McCain/Palin is NOT the way to do it. I am sorry that Republican party supporters all haven’t objected. I don’t think Republican party supporters are stupid, but many are woefully unaware of history, methinks…and outside of the US.
I lived in Alaska for over a decade. I still have friends working in state government. Alaska is a small state. You know what they say? Palin is a homophobic, vicious bigot who only wants her own way. I have been doing some DL research on her church ties, and the churches she is involved with. She is definitely a dominionist supporter.
Here’s the definition of a dominionist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
She’s given state money to support her churches’ cause.
And you know what the Dominionists say about those of us in the LGBTQ community? We need to be executed. So, so-called allies, think twice before you claim that she’s a godsend.
Here’s some opinions re: Palin in AK, and I have friends in Juneau that are horrified by her.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/05/mccain-campaign-plans-to-keep-palin-away-from-the-press/
Also, I recommend that you folks check out Lisa Demer’s articles at the ADN (Anchorage Daily News). Democratic party supporters, I caution you from underestimating her, or the GOP’s power in AK…and the state itself.
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