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July 28, 2008 at 5:58 am #587620
AnonymousInactiveSince the republicans want us to think Obama can’t make up his mind, here’s a running list by category for McCain. Will the real flip-flopper please stand up.
July 28, 2008 at 4:05 pm #632322
WSMomParticipanthere’s a recent flip-flop with $$$ consequences
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/26/AR2008072601891.html
“Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling.”
July 28, 2008 at 9:48 pm #632323
JanSParticipantand where’s the hue and cry about that? If this had been Obama, we would never hear the end of it…
July 28, 2008 at 10:05 pm #632324
AnonymousInactiveYeah, they are both politicians!
Imagine that. They are both playing to whatever audience they are speaking to and, in turn, trying to grab the most votes. That’s how it works.
I find it a little disheartening, though, that only ONE of the candidates started his whole campaign with the promise of change and to NOT do business as usual.
Only one candidate made that promise and, therefore, only one candidate has compromised his integrity and his promise to the American people.
July 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm #632325
theriedlerMemberTo be honest I think both have compromised their integrity. I don’t think either one can make an argument against the other about “flip flopping”.
July 28, 2008 at 11:28 pm #632326
AnonymousInactive“Only one candidate made that promise and, therefore, only one candidate has compromised his integrity and his promise to the American people”
I agree, and here’s a copy of the memo outlining McCain’s promise to not run a negative campaign. Looks like he flip-flopped on that too.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/03/mccain_memo_respectful_campaig.html
Obama has promised to run the country different, and he will.
July 28, 2008 at 11:38 pm #632327
AnonymousInactiveObama promised to run his campaign differently and didn’t, so why would he come through with his promise of running the country differently?
I definitely have to agree with theriedler in that they both flip flop. They will continue to do so. So it seems silly to get into an argument about who does it more.
July 29, 2008 at 5:26 am #632328
theriedlerMemberThis reminds me of a question I often ask myself when thinking about things like this:
Who would you rather vote for? (I’m not saying either candidate falls into one of these categories two categories ideally they would agree with their constituents)
a) someone who disagrees with what his constituents want but does it anyways
b) personally believes in something (against his constituents) but pursues it anyways?
July 29, 2008 at 2:27 pm #632329
WSMomParticipantFrom post #4
“I find it a little disheartening, though, that only ONE of the candidates started his whole campaign with the promise of change and to NOT do business as usual.
Only one candidate made that promise and, therefore, only one candidate has compromised his integrity and his promise to the American people.”
So we should expect this kind of smear campaign ad from John McCain:
Andrea Mitchell: McCain’s Ad Is “Literally Untrue”
And Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has this to say:
“At that point, it was a political trip for Sen. Obama,” Hagel said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “I think it would have been inappropriate for him — and certainly he would have been criticized by the McCain people and the press and, probably should have been — if, on a political trip in Europe, paid for by political funds, not the taxpayers, to go essentially then and be accused of using our wounded men and women as props for his campaign.”
Hagel also lit in to McCain for, as host Bob Schieffer put it, stating that Obama’s views on Iraq were based on political expediency, “that he chose — and these are Sen. McCain’s words — ‘a political path that would get him the nomination.’ “
“I think John is treading on some very thin ground here when he impugns motives, and when we start to get into ‘You’re less patriotic than me, I’m more patriotic,’ ” Hagel replied, adding: “John’s better than that.”
July 29, 2008 at 2:48 pm #632330
AnonymousInactiveAnd from faux news today:
“McCain drew a sharp rebuke Monday from conservatives”
“Club for Growth, a Washington anti-tax group, said to McCain, your words are shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances”
I guess he was against raising taxes before he was maybe for it.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/28/club-for-growth-scolds-mccain-for-not-pledging-no-new-taxes/
July 29, 2008 at 6:52 pm #632331
AnonymousInactiveWait a minute!
Now we agree with Fox News? If they say something that you agree with, they are reporting news (and you’ll even share the link here), but if they report something you don’t like, it’s B.S.?
I can’t keep up anymore!
I like to refer to their respective voting records. I agree that Obama’s been in office for about 15 minutes and his voting record is pretty limited, but if you look at their voting records, you can see who you are truly aligned with.
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