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March 14, 2012 at 2:07 pm #750134
redblackParticipantoddreality: i once knew a guy whose name was pronounced “kooch kow ski.” polish, or some other eastern bloc country? not sure of the spelling. it had a lot of consonants and weird diphthongs in it for a three-syllable name.
anyway, a lot of people just called him “kootch.”
March 15, 2012 at 5:37 am #750135
westseamikeMemberAh yes, the evil clean water laws the EPA wants… bad bad EPA… Well, how about this. The Seattle area (King County) gets to keep our policies on clean water supplies and the GOP following areas can have their policies. Live long and… oh wait, that won’t happen for them.
As for government vs insurance companies… one word: Lobbyist
March 15, 2012 at 10:54 am #750136
kootchmanMemberoddreality… I posted it before.. a few times. It’s old news. Yes we remember Pelosi… “close the doors, lock out the republcans.. and to her swooning fans ” you can read what’s in it when we pass it'” Bonehead was given the majority to do exactly what he is doing… the American people in a mid-term election like no other threw the democratic congress out on its’ arse. Stop them! That was the mandate. She was given her lead role.. and the American people promptly saw the nature of her politics and fired her. She missed the part of kindegarten.. to play nice with others. 65% of American still think Obamacare is too deeply flawed, too partisan, to remain in place. Sebelius is doing him no favors either, or Holder.
March 15, 2012 at 8:02 pm #750137
redblackParticipantwestseasmike: only problem with that is that our water supply originates in “red” country.
of course, they’ve probably been – errr… – micturating in our water supply for decades.
“take this, seattle!”
March 15, 2012 at 8:52 pm #750138
oddrealityParticipantSorry Kootch, I do not stalk your posts and never read it. If it really is a name that means that much to you that you use it on a public forum and your intent in this case is not to be degrading to women then I apologize to you for thinking otherwise.
The republicans have been locking women and dems out.So whats new??They all need to get together and work on compromise so we can get things moving in the country again.I blame both sides .That is the difference between you and I. I can see blame enough to go around, you only blame one side. No one party can ever nor should ever get all things as they wish.That would be unAmerican .
March 15, 2012 at 9:37 pm #750139
jamminjMember“65% of American still think Obamacare is too deeply flawed,”
because the majority of those wanted single payer.
March 16, 2012 at 2:44 am #750140
kootchmanMemberThere are currently 39 bills, sent by congress to the Senate. They are awaiting any action from the Senate, They are trying, The Senate which has not passed a simple budget in over 1000 days, Who is doing the obstruction? The Senate considers, the bill goes back to the house for compromise, revision, reconciliation,mark up, etc…. hard to do when the bills hit the Democratic Senate and die because Harry Reid thinks he can play this out forever. Makes us lurch from one budget crisis to another with continuing resolutions.
March 16, 2012 at 2:59 am #750141
kootchmanMemberNo jamminj… only in King County does that myth persist.. newest polls…
…only 34% of respondents have a favorable view of the Affordable Care Act, down from 41% in September. Notably, the decline was due to losing Democratic supporters, who dropped to 52% from 65% month to month.
The most important question Kaiser asked was whether national health care would leave Americans better or worse off. Some 44% said worse off, a 10 percentage-point jump from September, while only 18% believed they would be better off. [emphasis supplied]
America’s doctors have conducted a full examination of the president’s health reform law — and their diagnosis of its effects on our healthcare system isn’t good.
Nearly two-thirds of doctors expect the quality of care in this country to decline, according to a new survey from consulting giant Deloitte. Just 27 percent think that the law will lower costs. And nearly seven of every 10 doctors believe that medicine is no longer attractive to America’s “best and brightest.”
Few people know more about our healthcare system than doctors working on the frontlines. Policymakers should pay heed to their indictment of Obamacare and revisit the disastrous law.
It’s a turkey… now that people HAVE read it… the numbers get worse. Just admit it, pull it, and this time… work for compromise without all the 13,000 waivers to Obama supporters. Out in the open, not behind cllosed doors with CBO assumptions dictated by Pelosi, where Americans can see it, relect on it,, and tell their elected representatives what they want.
March 16, 2012 at 3:04 am #750142
kootchmanMemberoddreality… since you were so nice.. i reciprocate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Kortchmar
his web site…
March 16, 2012 at 3:26 am #750143
jamminjMembermore reason to go to single payer.
March 16, 2012 at 4:10 am #750144
oddrealityParticipantKootch,Being a woman who had more fun in the 70’s than a person should EVER have and lived to talk about it I appreciate your guitar teachers contributions to the music I still love. I had seen the link before but never followed it. For some reason I thought people were pointing to a site about you and I was not much interested in that.Thank you for setting me straight.
I suspect that as much as people here disagree if we were all sitting around a table with a beer or a coffee we would have some very fiery conversations but come away with a much better understanding of the others views. If not, at least more friendly!This sort of posting is not the best way to communicate.
I totally agree with Jamminj!!! Single payer!!!
Healthcare went to pot when HMO’s took over. That is when we all lost control over our own health care and doctors had to do as told by the insurance industry.I say get rid of HMO’s. Bring on the single payer system.Or anything better than what we have now that people can actually afford!
March 16, 2012 at 2:49 pm #750145
JoBParticipantkootch…
every once in a while you say something that makes me think….
i now understand why republicans thought the war on women would be such a calling card for them…
ousting Pelosi went to their heads.
What they failed to realize is that although there is a portion of America that will stand on it’s hind legs to … well, you know… on a woman that they think is getting above herself…
even they tend to balk when the woman you go after is that really nice lady down the block.
once, i would have said that they balked when you went after their mothers or sisters..
but the great white hope network has taught them that “those” women are only worthy of their contempt…
how dare they!
March 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm #750146
JoBParticipantoddreality
“Healthcare went to pot when HMO’s took over. That is when we all lost control over our own health care and doctors had to do as told by the insurance industry.”
Something else we can thank Ronnie for…
he saw the profit potential immediately
March 17, 2012 at 7:55 am #750147
westseamikeMemberMeanwhile peopele are going to Canada for medication (same meds, just not the added political backing), Thailand and Hong Kong for surgery. Why? Because the top surgens in Thailand and Hong Kong are PhD’s from US universities, many from the UW.
March 17, 2012 at 8:18 am #750148
kootchmanMemberYea? Well… guess where our Canadian friends go for emergency care? Just had a three day guest who took his daughter to Swedish cause the care he needed …was 21 weeks away, My insurance pays me 5K in cash … to spend as I please if my hip surgery happens in Tawain,,,, with one week recuperation at a 4 star resort.
All USA trained doctors…UCLA, Stanford, and Columbia.. I am a padre of two daughters…. it’s the best of times and they know it! They laugh at the notion or gender discrimination,,, they wonder where the men are that can meet their accomplishments. To quote the elder one…. if ya can’t afford BC.. ya shouldn’t be F—-n
March 17, 2012 at 8:32 am #750149
westseamikeMemberOdd, I know people that go to Canada for that…hmmmmm
March 17, 2012 at 9:25 am #750150
westseamikeMemberKootch, are you saying your daughters are medical doctors and don’t know that there are multiple medical reasons to use birth control? It ain’t all about babies being conceived buddy. You might want to do more research on that one.
March 17, 2012 at 9:50 am #750151
kootchmanMemberNope…the very very few that use it as a therapy are exonerated. I did the research… less than 1.2 per cent is “off label” use. Buddy. Mostly it is a gender entitlement .. and does not trump 1st Amendment rights. As I said in previous posts… if it is for a clinical use…endometriosis as one example.. I think it should be covered…. BUT… I am not a Catholic so my opinion means nothing…. it’a up to the church… and if the church says no…. 1st Amendment works for me.
March 17, 2012 at 9:57 am #750152
kootchmanMemberRight you are wsm…. when Seattle doctors were charging 1500 per eyeball for Lazik surgery…. momma went to BC to get it done for 1100 for 2 baby blues ….. great results too. Difference? malpractice insurance,
March 17, 2012 at 2:28 pm #750153
JoBParticipantkootch..
the “gender entitlement” of birth control is shared by both genders…
he doesn’t have to worry about unintended pregnancy either..
as for the religious right of churches to not fund treatment for endometriosis simply because they don’t approve of medications that can prevent pregnancy…
it’s clear that you have no idea what pain endometriosis causes.. or you wouldn’t be so cavalier about that 1.2%.
shame on you kootch.
i expect even conservatives to have more compassion for those who suffer.
March 18, 2012 at 7:52 am #750154
kootchmanMemberI am very well aware if endometriosos. Men do live with and amongst women. Vaginas are not the gatekeepers of information and knowledge. It’s not a wisdom organ. Nor do penises preclude women from entering into medical debates… since more women are primary docs now…. fact twas a woman doc who gave me my first prostate palpitation… my male doc was ok with PSA only..she preferred a physical exam as a higher standard of care … should i have dismissed her because she wasn’t hung? I was interested in what she had “hanging” on the wall. BTY the church does allow off label use for endometriosis…there is the doctrine of greater good that prevails…. but it’s not up to you or me to decide that. You and I cannot use the powers of the state to sublimate the the practice of religion. All that other bullshit like chopping off hands, cutting off noses… all covered and protected by…yep… the US Constitution… cruel and unusual punishment. red herrings. Nor is is legal for genital destruction…on women. Male circumcision is allowed… for religious reasons .. you can still bust a nut though…and there are health benefits for a clean knob. Female circumcision has no health benefits. Now at the age of majority.. some women do have the procedure… their choice. Like tats, piercings.. etc. Since 98 of the BC scrips are written for BC…that’s a faith tenet. You don’t get the power to dictate … BTY ….. interestingly… NYC allows live animal sacrifice for Santera rites and the courts have ruled that Bald Eagles may again be hunted in limited numbers for Native American religious purposes (no longer listed as endangered) I am sure it is repulsive to PETA and ASPCA filed a suit and lost…and I am not happy about bald eagles or gray whale harvest..bet we always err in favor of the First Amendment.
March 18, 2012 at 7:57 am #750155
kootchmanMemberAll the spoutings and none of the facts….
Here ya go JoB…. BC pills are permitted for emdometriosis….. in the Catholic church… and covered by church health insurance. Intent.
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=33323
March 18, 2012 at 8:58 am #750156
JanSParticipantI love your choice of words sometimes…prostate palpitation…chuckling…your heart palpitates, the doc uses palpation. But, then again, maybe it did give you palpitations? ;-)
March 18, 2012 at 2:57 pm #750157
JoBParticipantkootchman..
“Here ya go JoB…. BC pills are permitted for emdometriosis….. in the Catholic church… and covered by church health insurance. Intent.”
and did you have to discuss that higher standard of care your doctor wanted for you..
the palpitation..
to get permission before she could examine you?
did your employer have to be privy to the reasons for your medical care before you could receive care thereby leaving you vulnerable to the gossip of the office staff?
Well no…
THAT would be an invasion of your privacy… right?
btw.. The way you talk about penises and vaginas is an invasion of mine.
March 18, 2012 at 6:03 pm #750158
waynsterParticipantKootch how meany times can you insert foot and still think you come out smelling like rose’s…..what the hell does male circumcisions or even female circumcisions have to do with women’s health why do you even bring up subjects that have no merit in heath issues… you should quit before you swallow that foot and choke on it like in the past……BTW your wrong on eagles hunt you still need to have permission to even gather eagle feathers and have them in your possessions under U.S> fish and wildlife regulations and you must be a certified tribal member and you must Carrie the permit just like you do your gun permint when in your possession….//permts.fws.gov/mbpermits/birdbasics.html……. Eagle
The two species of eagles that are native to the United States have additional protection under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act (text) (summary). Under the BGEPA, the Service issues permits to take, possess, and transport bald and golden eagles (Haliaeetus leucocephalus and Aquila chrysaetos) for scientific, educational, and Indian religious purposes, depredation, and falconry (golden eagles). Effective November 10, 2009, permits will also be available to take eagles in the course of conducting other lawful activities and to take eagle nests when necessary to protect human safety or the eagles. See http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/baldeagle.htm for more information on these new provisions.
No permit authorizes the sale, purchase, barter, trade, importation, or exportation of eagles, or their parts or feathers. The regulations governing eagle permits can be found in 50 CFR part 13 (General Permit Procedures) and 50 CFR part 22 (Eagle Permits)…..And only 2 eagles a yr are being allowed to be hunted for those religious rights for only 2 tribes….
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