Believe in god or not? Why?

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    yes2ws
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    “Wow;” simply, “Wow.”

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    yes2ws
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    Gotta love the Bible Belt.

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    cclarue
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    A good friend of mine says have an open mind but be careful it’s not so open that your brains fall out. I like that.

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    casaboba
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    This thread has had a productive run. What about the “flip-side” of the question?

    Believe in the Devil or not? Why?

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    JoB
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    casaboBa…

    :) couldn’t resist…

    this is a good questions because unlike a belief in god ..

    a belief in the devil would seem to be more about belief in the concept of an eventual heaven or hell after death…

    than necessarily about the duality of good and evil…

    which can be expressed as easily in the terms of our present existence…

    i have what feels like infinite faith in god…

    but… heaven? hell? the devil?

    the jury is still out on this for me and likely will be until i am long past being able to communicate my answer to other living beings.

    good and evil though….

    i don’t have to take that on faith…

    although a great deal of what some Christians consider evil can be understood as little more than a result chance and circumstance…

    i do believe that i have personally experienced both unexplained good and unwarranted evil.

    my thanks to the crazy lady in her house..

    for the intriguing question

    i will have ample food for thought today:)

    edit…

    this banquet may cause indigestion :(

    good and evil themselves are more difficult to define than one would think at first glance…

    at least this conundrum requires more self examination than research….

    easier on the back..

    but no less heavy lifting.

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    Caduceus
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    I am not anti-God, I don’t refer to myself as an anti-theist no matter how often my demeanor in these discussion may fall to such a persona. I also do not consider myself atheist, even though I technically am.

    I do not have a belief in God but I simultaneously do not refute it.

    Who am I to claim to have such answers? What do I gain by making a point in refusing to believe something that isn’t proven untrue?

    Having read both Testaments I pointedly do not believe in the Christian God and having failed to get through the Quran because of laughter I can’t bring myself to bother with the idea of a Muslim God either. But then again there is no way to say that the Bibles we read today are anything at all like the originals; and seeing how the overlapping hypocrisy, nonsense and overall silyness is what is driving me from the Biblical God perhaps that’s keeping me from my salvation. And I didn’t even finish the Quran, maybe if I had I would have had divine inspiration? Who is to know?

    If anything I’m a Humanist. I figure it is better to put the focus on ourselves and others. If everyone has a mind for their neighbors, no matter how many doors down than perhaps we’ll be in a place someday where we actually can verify these beliefs.

    Or maybe not, but what does it really matter?

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    JoB
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    cadeucus…

    “If anything I’m a Humanist. I figure it is better to put the focus on ourselves and others. If everyone has a mind for their neighbors, no matter how many doors down than perhaps we’ll be in a place someday where we actually can verify these beliefs.

    Or maybe not, but what does it really matter? “

    it matters

    our belief systems influence how we live our lives

    in the end..

    the outcome of those beliefs is measurable

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