Since you asked: Checking into the street-corner fruit vendors

They are being seen more frequently on West Seattle street corners – people standing for hours, selling fruit from boxes. (There’s been one at the busiest corner near WSB HQ, three days during the past week, standing there from morning till late in the day. A nearby resident who speaks a little Spanish tried talking to her, and learned only that the vendor was “from the mountains of Mexico.”) Some people have messaged us to ask about the law. One of the first results we found in an online search reminded us that this is not a new phenomenon – there was even a discussion last year in the WSB Forums. While a permit is required to sell on the street, it’s a moot point in many of these cases, because it’s outright prohibited in single-family zones (as is the case of the one near us). Is anyone enforcing the rule? So far, we haven’t heard from anyone who has officially complained. The method for doing so is on this SDOT web page. (SDOT is checking for us to see if they’ve been getting complaints, and how they’re handled.) We haven’t found much past coverage of the fruit sellers in this area, but it’s been a hot topic in the Bay Area, where this story suggested some of them may be more victim than violator.

ADDED: SDOT’s Marybeth Turner tells WSB they don’t get many street-vending complaints; when they do: “An SDOT Street Use Inspector responds to these complaints during normal work hours on a priority basis. If it is a matter of public safety, a Seattle Police Officer may also respond, also on a priority basis– this occurs mostly in the SODO stadium area or nightlife areas” such as Belltown.

79 Replies to "Since you asked: Checking into the street-corner fruit vendors"

  • Sage June 24, 2010 (3:51 pm)

    A fruit-seller on the corner seems like an asset, not something to complain about. What’s the issue with someone selling fruit on a street corner? Attracts too many healthy eaters? Takes business from the ice cream man?

    • WSB June 24, 2010 (3:54 pm)

      We just got the first part of the answer back from SDOT, which says they in fact do NOT get many complaints. The inquiries we’ve received have been more curiosity than complaint but nonetheless it suggests a fair number of people are wondering – the number seems to be increasing – so that’s why we checked – TR

  • Fruitloops June 24, 2010 (3:58 pm)

    The cops don’t seem to mind…was behind one and they passed one of these folks and waved at each other. For a moment, I thought it might be creative crime prevention. Then I thought that it could also be a great way to stake out who isn’t home…

  • coffee June 24, 2010 (4:01 pm)

    This year it seems like there are many more out selling. Last year the only one I saw was at 106th and 35th Ave SW, which btw, I have bought fruit from the person standing there and it was fine and priced a bit less than the store. I was most interested because I wanted a large quantity to make jelly. I figured the person selling was most likely not documented…

  • Morgan Junction Mom June 24, 2010 (4:09 pm)

    I was over in Magnolia last night and saw a few over there. I didn’t stop to check it out, no cash.

  • Sage June 24, 2010 (4:09 pm)

    @WSB Definitely worth checking out — and I invite any & all fruit sellers to a corner near me. 35th & Webster would be great.

  • uglybrowncrow June 24, 2010 (4:23 pm)

    Who would complain? Safeway, QFC? Those are some of the best strawberries around and cheaper than going into a chain market. Don’t tell me the risks involve about contamination. I’ll worry about that.

  • Alki Area June 24, 2010 (4:58 pm)

    And surely taking away a job from an American 18 year old who wanted to stand in the hot sun for 12 hours selling fruit, only to have this job taken by an illegal alien! Then the poor 18 year old American tried to get a job scrubbing toilets for minimum wage and found they couldn’t get that job either…nor the job picking fruit bent over for 8 hours a day. So sad.
    (sarcasm)

  • xo June 24, 2010 (5:04 pm)

    I live in the neighborhood and it doesn’t bother me. I haven’t bought from her though, they definitely need a sign telling how much the fruit is. She sat there all day the other day at least 10 hrs. into the night. I honestly felt bad for her and wondered how she went to the bathroom or what she ate all day (fruit I guess). I hope that she isn’t being made to do this by someone else. This is the first time in 10 years I have seen them around though. There was a male in Admiral selling the same types of fruits at the same time.

  • kittylove June 24, 2010 (5:09 pm)

    at least they are trying to make a living.

  • luckymom30 June 24, 2010 (5:10 pm)

    I am not threatened by the fruit sellers, but I do not like the sellers who come late at night selling items we would never use.

  • mike03 June 24, 2010 (5:12 pm)

    Thanks for this article. I was quite curious what was going on, all the sudden we have mangos for sale on the corner one block away from us.

    I guess I’m afraid to buy them because I have no knowledge/guarantee/understanding of the farm that produced them.

  • luckymom30 June 24, 2010 (5:26 pm)

    We drove up to the guy selling strawberries on the corner of 106th and they were $10.00 a box but they only selling them in groups of 2 boxes.

  • Ken June 24, 2010 (6:09 pm)

    We generally have no knowledge/guarantee/understanding of where the fruit in our supermarkets comes from, either.

    I’d be more inclined to take a chance on what is most likely locally-grown produce from these vendors, rather than the stuff at Safeway or QFC which often comes from Chile, Mexico, New Zealand, and who knows where else and with who knows what chemicals on or in them.

  • wseattleone June 24, 2010 (6:11 pm)

    Unless they are leaving trash around or harassing people what’s the problem? Undocumented? Maybe. But at least they are not sitting around collecting a government check with no intention of finding a job. They appear to be very hard workers to me.

  • Tut June 24, 2010 (6:25 pm)

    ??

  • M S June 24, 2010 (6:25 pm)

    I wanted to check it out today on my way to constellation park, I will try tomorrow and hope for some good strawberries for my famous shortcake!

  • Cclarue June 24, 2010 (6:37 pm)

    My friend saw a girl who looked to be under 16 near 8th and Roxbury then the guy on 16th and henderson had a guy in a real nicecar pull up and do a non fruit exchange … We were thinking there may be more to it than a few hard working individuals.. More like forced labor.. I feelbad for these folks and don’t feel comfortable supporting what could be sometype of forced labor situation.., but that’s just me.

  • David June 24, 2010 (6:42 pm)

    It’s beyond me why anyone would buy food from a random stranger on a street corner. Who knows where the fruit came from, or has been? With that being said, it really doesn’t bother me that they are trying to sell it.

  • Jo June 24, 2010 (7:08 pm)

    I just read the link on your blog [contained in same article] about human trafficking. The article said that the vendors are not allowed to leave their positions to go to the bathroom and drink very little water thus working all day. This is the saddest part of the query into the street-corner fruit vendors. Not speaking any Spanish, how does one find out whether this human being is being trafficked/exploited?

    Link to Human Trafficking (sp?) article

  • Linda June 24, 2010 (7:14 pm)

    a little taste of Mexico- see it all the time in El Paso- just took awhile to catch on here!

  • Chris June 24, 2010 (7:14 pm)

    Fruit sellers welcome. It’s activity and eyes on the street… a good thing

  • Dawn June 24, 2010 (7:39 pm)

    It is illegal to sell fruit from a neighborhood corner without a Vendor’s Permit from Street Use. Period. I have called them several times to file a formal complaint. The Supervisor lives in WS so I hope they get someone out there. Why should they be allowed to sell anything without going through the proper channels. I don’t care what race they are. We are all so paranoid of being pc that people turn the other way and think it’s okay. Well, sorry, not in my neighborhood. If you want fresh produce – go to Tony’s on 35th & Barton or the new produce stand on Fauntleroy in the old Huling Bros parking lot. One writer mentioned about where this person uses the restroom. Good point.

  • Near Alki June 24, 2010 (8:10 pm)

    Cclarue, unfortunately I would have to concur…it’s sad to think of the forced labor possibility of this business. Not only the working conditions (no bathroom, no breaks food or water, less than minimum $ wage, etc) but where do they go after work? Their “employer” probably provides very poor living condition accommodations, perhaps a meal and then deducts that expense, and others from the wages earned. When they “settle up” at weeks end the employee might break even…perhaps even “owe” the “employer” money. This is known as Involuntary servitude and is prohibited by the 13th amendment to the constitution. I hope I’m wrong and I would like to think that these people are proprietors freely acquiring their fruit and freely selling it at a profit…but I unfortunately have my doubts.

  • publicadministrator June 24, 2010 (8:25 pm)

    sidewalk fruit vendors are a common sight along Sandpoint Way.

  • Cclarue June 24, 2010 (8:28 pm)

    Most likely an illegal alien breaking the law in public… And officer smiles and waves…wow ! Pc has trumped the law… Yep were in Seattle

  • Jacob June 24, 2010 (8:57 pm)

    Dawn, do you call in complaints about the local kids who have set up lemonade stands too? :(

  • rob June 24, 2010 (9:07 pm)

    i wonder if those kids who come to our door selling cookies get permits. better get someone to check them out next time. saw a lemonade stand on our street a couple weeks ago too. i suppose i should call and complain about that, i’m sure they didn’t get a permit either.

  • amazing June 24, 2010 (9:28 pm)

    God forbid an officer SMILE and WAVE at anyone in this city. Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot that is the job of ‘America’s Heroes’ the beloved firefighters who likely are buying those berries for their dinner.

  • Chris June 24, 2010 (9:55 pm)

    Dawn, Really? You filed a formal complaint? come on…
    What harm are they doing. I would much rather support a street vendor than the over priced crap at most of the grocery stores. I consider these a terrific asset to our neighborhood. What could be better than being able to walk to the corner and get some fresh strawberries or mangoes for dessert? And in reply to David’s comment about where has the fruit been, what makes you think this fruit is any different than the fruit you buy at Safeway or PCC? If your concerned WASH IT…

  • EyeLiveInWS June 24, 2010 (10:45 pm)

    I have never seen these street sellers, and I have lived here for 10 years. Guess I should pay more attention. Does anyone know WHERE they get their fruit from?

  • Vanessa June 24, 2010 (11:48 pm)

    Big box $10. The best strawberries I have eaten this season so far. I mean they were REALLY good. I washed them, we ate them and we’re still alive to tell the story. It felt good to support them, instead of some of the junk at Safeway…or picked way before it’s time at some of the other big stores.

  • Smitty June 25, 2010 (6:59 am)

    Dawn, you are not alone!

    Why should these people take business away from others who abide by (and pay for) the proper permits, taxes and paperwork necessary to run a business?

    Of course they can charge less – they have government out of their way.

    Some think it’s petty to complain about unleashed dogs, some think it’s petty to complain about undocumented workers.

    Take subjectivity out of the equation and enforce the law.

  • homesweethome June 25, 2010 (7:28 am)

    how about offering these folks a glass of lemonade?

  • Gretchen June 25, 2010 (7:39 am)

    While this may be a case of trafficking, turning them in will probably result in the seller getting arrested and prosecuted and not the trafficker. Please don’t do that to them. They are already living a rough existence if they are on the corner for many hours without relief. And that’s only a small piece of their story we have seen. If you want to do something, stake out the scene and get the license number of the “fancy car doing non fruit exchange”.

  • M S June 25, 2010 (8:08 am)

    I hope the workers are not being abused by others… “illegal aliens” or not, they seem to be doing an honest job. And last time I checked the girl scouts did not have permits from the city to sell their cokies on the streets and a couple of them looked what some of you would consider “illegal aliens”. I failed to report them.
    Get a life everybody.

  • M S June 25, 2010 (8:18 am)

    Also, because the vendors look Hispanic does not make them illegal aliens. My four kids do look Hispanic (some more than others) and I have never worried about them looking “illegal”. They are in fact very legal and precious.

  • karenanne June 25, 2010 (8:21 am)

    20 DELICIOUS mangoes for $9 ???? Why would anyone complain ? Seems like there are far worse things to focus our attention on. I welcome the vendors. And after seeing Vanessa’s comment, will buy strawberries next.

  • Gina June 25, 2010 (8:41 am)

    I have no idea where Safeway gets their strawberries from. I buy frozen ones from Skagit Valley area farms for the winter, and grow my own for eating fresh. If they are Skagit berries on the street corners, let me know!

  • WorldCitizen June 25, 2010 (8:47 am)

    Dawn:
    Seriously?!?

  • sun*e June 25, 2010 (9:00 am)

    I concur with Dawn – “Why should they be allowed to sell anything without going through the proper channels?” Where do we draw the line? What if they were selling something less desirable in your neighborhood? I think they should be required to have a license to sell absolutely anything. Little kids with lemonade stands excluded of course. :)

  • lashanna June 25, 2010 (9:21 am)

    I would love to see some ppl selling fruit on the corner in South Park…we don’t even have a real grocery store…so someone let them know our corners would rather be occupied w/ fruit sellers than any other ‘merchant’…. be thankful west seattle!!!!

  • Smitty June 25, 2010 (9:56 am)

    lemonade is “probably” purchased from a store that had proper permits and pays local, state and federal taxes. The company that produced the lemonade probably does as well.

    Girl Scout cookies are “probably” from a company that pays local, state and federal taxes.

    Neither is taking away business from those who abide by the law, acquire the proper permits and pay their fare share.

    These folks (brown, black, white or purple – illegal or legal) are going around the system and (I am assuming) undercutting prices.

    To just say “take it easy” or “relax” sounds cool and laid-back – but is missing the point. THis will “creep” into other things if left alone – and at that time you will probably start to complain.

  • Tony June 25, 2010 (10:26 am)

    I have noticed a gentleman selling fruit around 16th and Trenton, seems to be out there every other day. I for one do not mind this practice what ever their immigration status is they are trying to make a buck like all of do. To the people filing formal complaints… Why bother, are they really causing an issue also do you file complaints when children are running a lemonade stand on the side of the road?

  • Dan'a June 25, 2010 (10:38 am)

    I feel there is a big difference than an afternoon of selling a pitcher of lemonade and an every other day business selling things that cost a lot more than a cup of said lemonade.
    In a time when the city is struggling to pay for bridges, police officers, parks and many other crucial residents’ needs, it is the evasion of paying much needed taxes and permits fees, and thus denying the city revenue and under cutting people whose businesses pay the taxes and go through the proper channels that bothers me.

  • wolfbain June 25, 2010 (11:04 am)

    are you truly concerned about peoples well being or licences? you should see the enviornment of the kids making your high end designer clothes overseas but thats ok because there not standing on u.s. soil. viva america!

  • wsneighbor June 25, 2010 (11:35 am)

    The strawberries I bought from the woman pictured above were SOOOO much better than in any of the grocery stores. So sweet. Thistle and California

  • chickenwizard June 25, 2010 (11:50 am)

    Nothing wrong with adding a little character during the summer and getting to avoid the commute to a store where the same fruit is overpriced. Dawn – there are better things to do to improve W.S. than to complain about these people.

  • MMMMMM, meat June 25, 2010 (11:51 am)

    You are right Smitty! I have heard that it starts with fruits and veggies but quickly leads to harder foods. With the “creep” you are talking about pretty soon they’ll be butchering cows on the corner and selling yummy meat snacks. Bring it on!

    I say better to have street corners with fresh, (presumably) local fruits and veggies than hookers or drug dealers.

  • Kayleigh June 25, 2010 (12:23 pm)

    OMG, I can’t believe some of these comments.
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    It takes a truly uptight mindset to get upset about cheap strawberries.
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    I’d rather see a strawberry seller than a Jehova Witness pamphlet-carrier or teenagers up to no good or an off-leash pooping dog or that guy that carries the “Obama is Hitler” sign or or or…

  • David June 25, 2010 (12:25 pm)

    Smitty, good point. These illegal street sellers are taking business away from legitimate businesses like Tony’s, who have the proper permits and pay taxes. It’s easy to sit back and say “its no big deal” as long as you aren’t the person/business being hurt.

  • onceachef June 25, 2010 (1:22 pm)

    Question: where are they getting the fruit? Buying from a wholesaler? A local farm? Organic? I don’t see them as a “problem” but I prefer buying my produce from a source I know about (vendors from any Farmer’s Market for one). Everyone’s got bills to pay and the ones paying the fees for permits and licences are no exception. I won’t be filing any complaints but I won’t be buying from them either.

  • Doug June 25, 2010 (1:29 pm)

    These are illegal aliens, not citizens. They are criminals just by being here and that is what is wrong with that. Plenty of legal students looking for summer work that can’t find it. ICE should deport these criminals now.

  • furor scribendi June 25, 2010 (1:40 pm)

    So, it seems half of you don’t care about the actual personal welfare of these vendors as long as they offer yummy treats at cut rate prices, and others are concerned about their unfair economic advantage. How far does your moral relativism go? As a community we need to let our authorities know about these situations, so they can inquire and make sure the vendors aren’t being exploited, their civil rights are not being infringed, and their wares conform with our legal standard of sanitation.

  • Manolita June 25, 2010 (1:43 pm)

    WOW! Criminals!
    Doug: How are you so sure “these are illegal aliens”? Because of their skin color? because they speak Spanish? Your ignorance in laughable.

  • Cclarue June 25, 2010 (2:03 pm)

    Our laws are not multiple choice folks…

  • M S June 25, 2010 (2:09 pm)

    scribendi, I am with you 100%

  • Jacob June 25, 2010 (2:49 pm)

    scribendi, maybe we should start having police investigate all the people with brown skin at the construction sites, farms, and other low paying jobs in the area. Just to make sure they aren’t being exploited, of course.

    WTF, some of you sound like you are from Arizona or something :(

  • onceachef June 25, 2010 (2:51 pm)

    Doug…give us a break…”Plenty of legal students looking for summer work that can’t find it.”…you think students are going to stand on the corner and sell fruit? Legal or not, these are the only people who will willingly do this kind of work…they’re not taking jobs away from anyone, especially students (I doubt there’s much of a “company” behind this looking at resumes)…can you imagine having “Corner Fruit Vendor” on your resume? This is survival (as opposed to “work experience”) for the ones doing this.

  • masgroovy June 25, 2010 (3:19 pm)

    the mangos are great! hey doug chupa mi mango!

  • nwseer June 25, 2010 (4:20 pm)

    Good grief. If this was quality fruit, then how come they can’t get the wholesalers to buy it? And, no, Ken, we don’t grow mangos locally–at least not until global warming has gone a lot further.
    As far as people questioning the need for regulation, haven’t we recently seen enough of the predictable resulst of that, what with Massey, and BP and Wall Street all having claimed they didn’t need no stinkin’ regulation?
    I swear, people can’t figure out what could go wrong–until it does. Then they show up on the evening news, with their sick child in bed in the background, asking why the government didn’t protect them.

  • what? June 25, 2010 (6:16 pm)

    “legal students looking for work.”
    Where?
    My friends have kids in their mid 20’s. They graduated college and none of them want a job. My sweet yet misguided friends are not making their lazy returning grads get off the basement sofa. X-box takes a lot of out of a grad.

    I do the hiring at a day care in SeaTac. We were 10 people short two months ago. We begged and placed lots of adds. NO one under 40 even walked through the door.
    Sad to say, my own niece says that… child care, waitressing, jobs at the mall, ect are so beneath her. She’s 23 and has never had a job…. That’s by choice.

    Please if any of you know a poor college student who really can’t find a job, please direct them to Tukwila and SeaTac day cares sponsored through SeaTac and Tukwila community centers.

  • sassyseagull June 25, 2010 (6:30 pm)

    if they were white, would you be less anti-vendor? why not send an undercover spanish speaking person over to interview the vendor (anonymously) and not show their images just the fruit. most journalists would do this to get the STORY straight. just because they speak spanish and are not white they are criminal activity???!geez, i want mangoes and strawberries cheap and good. list the corners where theyare at!

  • bebecat June 25, 2010 (8:48 pm)

    It wouldn’t matter what color skin they have. The law is the law. As for a kid with a lemonade stand? He is learning a skill in a near play-like activity. These fruit vendors are part of a much larger network of adults who are not abiding by the tax and permit process of business and yes they are cutting into Tony’s and the new produce store on Fauntleroy’s business. Tony’s and the other store would not have been allowed to set up shop on any corner without a permit.

  • lenguamor June 25, 2010 (8:52 pm)

    I grew up in Miami, where street fruit vendors are an everyday fact of life – and a great source for some of the best produce in the city.
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    Begrudging anyone a living, when they are obviously willing to work like this strikes me as bad karma at the least – and sheer stupidity at worst.

  • Chris June 25, 2010 (10:29 pm)

    There’s a lot of talk about tax evasion and lack of permits from these folks. Where is that coming from? I’d kindly request that Dawn and Smitty and their racist followers turn off Fox News, step outside, skip hopping into the Pick-up truck, strut past their confederate flag and talk to any of these “illegals” to determine just how illegal they are and verify the lack of permits. Meanwhile the rest of the West Seattle community will be enjoying terrific fruit, roasted corn, tacos, and whatever else can’t be bought at Wal-Mart.

    • WSB June 25, 2010 (10:57 pm)

      Chris, separate from all the side notes alleging racism, asking about immigration status, etc., there is one fact here which underlies the “lack of permit” mentions. As we discovered when checking into this yesterday after receiving several notes/FB messages asking about the sudden semi-proliferation of street-corner vendors – city code does not permit any type of street food vending in single-family neighborhoods. Every place we have seen them is a single-family-zoned neighborhood. However, if nobody complains, then nothing will happen, since as we also learned from SDOT, and reported, few complaints have been received. Maybe it would be a good idea for everyone who supports street-corner vending – whether it’s a fruit-seller or your neighbor’s six-year-old selling lemonade – to contact the City Council and suggest they loosen the laws so it’s not an issue and more of this is possible – http://seattle.gov/council … Since right now the primary rules come under the SDOT umbrella, you’d want to contact West Seattle-residing Councilmember Tom Rasmussen, who chairs the Transportation Committee.

  • Smitty June 26, 2010 (11:14 am)

    “Dawn and Smitty and their racist followers turn off Fox News, step outside, skip hopping into the Pick-up truck, strut past their confederate flag and talk to any of these “illegals” to determine just how illegal they are and verify the lack of permits.”

    Classic if it weren’t so tired. Can you actually argue the facts instead of throwing out the “racist” charge? That’s such an easy out. You’re smarter than that….I think.

  • Enid June 26, 2010 (4:59 pm)

    I just chased some fruit sellers away from the corner of 35th & 102nd. Before anyone gets up in arms, let me say I had no objection to fruit sellers until today. The seller herself was a pleasant young Hispanic woman. I got involved because the traffic outside my house was getting ridiculous, people parking everywhere and every which way – including directly on my stoop so that I couldn’t get out of my own gate. Then the ‘pimp’ showed up. I fear that earlier posts may have been accurate about these young women being used. The man pulled up in a champagne colored Jeep Cherokee. He appeared to be middle Eastern with a heavy non-Hispanic accent. He argued with the neighbor whose house they were set up in front of, saying he was “on the street” and had a “right” to sell there.

    I have no problem helping people out by purchasing (literally) the fruits of their own labor – or even people just trying to make an honest living. Unfortunately, that’s not what I saw today and I feel badly for the young woman involved.

  • bebecat June 26, 2010 (5:57 pm)

    I contacted Michael.Shea@seattle.gov today to complain about the vendors. He issues events permits for the City of Seattle. Permits are not issued in residental areas for selling things on corners period.

  • M S June 26, 2010 (8:49 pm)

    good job bebecat! you must be soooooo proud! Since you are at it, please go ahead and report the three caucasian individuals selling berrries at the corner of Lander and California (across the street from Lafayette) – I believe they have conections with the Rotary club.
    And then by xmas time “those people” from Holly Rosary church will try to sell their christmas trees – illegally!

  • Jane Hollingsworth July 1, 2010 (7:37 am)

    I am trying to understand why I am so upset every day the van pulls up and leaves a young Mexican girl with boxes of fruit to sell across the street from my home.

    Maybe I am feeling that it is an invasion of my privacy to have a person stare over my way everytime I come out of the house and know my every move. Yes I chose to live on a busy street, but only expected to see neighbors, people taking a walk and cars rushing by.

    Maybe I am upset by the fact that this poor girl is there from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. The van comes back once and she is given a drink and probably goes to the pot in the back of the van or holds her water all day. The only thing that I see her eat is the fruit she trys to sell. She is not given a chair to sit on. I think that it is the inhumanity of any human being having to endure this kind of life style.

    I do believe that if we neighbors started trying to sell produce or any other items outside our houses on a regular weekly basis, that the corner of California and Thistle would be a real traffic mess. I do believe the authorities would come after us, even if we smiled at them.

  • Manolita July 1, 2010 (4:00 pm)

    Jane,
    FYI the “young Mexican” girl you are referring to is not Mexican. I have brought her merchandise and had a short conversation with her in Spanish (one of the languages I speak). Also, she did not seem to be preoccupied with neighboors’ every move and I doubt she stared at you everytime you came out of your house.
    My point is, I am just so tired of some of my fellow Americans hiding their prejudism and ignorance behind their “concerns” for others.
    Live and let live.

  • Jon July 1, 2010 (6:42 pm)

    Licenses are not required for the residential sale of newspapers or fresh or perishable food items.

    SMC 6.260.040 License — Required — Exceptions.

    It is unlawful for any person to engage in business as a residential seller
    in the City without first obtaining a residential sales license therefor;
    provided, that no license shall be required for:

    A. Any person selling newspapers, or fresh or perishable food items; or

    B. Any person holding a home sales party; or

    C. Any person who acts as a residential seller on behalf of a licensee; or

    D. Any person who, as an agent, acts as a peddler on behalf of a regulated
    utility; or

    E. Any person who merely solicits orders for goods, which orders are to be
    accepted and goods delivered at a future time from a place outside of
    Washington State.

    If the people are causing some other hazard or are involved in a crime, they should be dealt with accordingly, but the police do not need to contact them to see if they have a license because they don’t need one.

  • Claire July 2, 2010 (6:44 am)

    To those who believe fruit vendors are an asset, put signs up welcoming them to your street corner. Let them relieve themselves in you yard, behind your hedge.

    This is the USA and we are a civilized people, are we not?

  • Allen July 2, 2010 (7:55 am)

    Manolita,
    I asked the young lady about what she was selling and she said she could not speak English. Then, with my neighbor interpreting, we asked her where she was from and she said Mexico. She even told us the area but I cannot remember it. She is not from Spain, she is a beautiful Mexican girl. She also was an energetic and engaging saleswoman.

    Yesterday a male fruit seller was there. He was not such a good salesman…the most remarkable thing he did was to go across the street and relieve himself in the neighbor’s flower beds.

    This whole thing is not about prejudice and it is not about being legal or illegal. It is about having a bunch of street vendors on our street corners. I would feel just as upset by it if they were French, German, New Yorkers or Canary Islanders.

  • Nate July 4, 2010 (12:20 am)

    People are not allowed to sell fruit on residential street corners. That is the law. If you don’t like it, take it up with your government. It doesn’t matter at all why you think or don’t think it should be allowed, it is ILLEGAL. There is no discussion. If you don’t want to file a complaint, then don’t. The appropriate government department should deal with it. If they don’t, they aren’t doing their job.

    This fruit doesn’t just appear. Someone is importing a massive amount of fruit and then selling it without inspection or permit. There is no consumer protection, no taxes being paid, etc. This is called organized crime. It isn’t a big deal if someone sells some fruit on a corner. The big deal is the scale at which it is being done. Further, with obvious disregard for laws, the workers are likely being exploited.

    Some of you have written that you should not file a complaint because it would just hurt the workers and not the puppet masters. This is maybe the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. The whole operation is illegal and should be shut down, both for good reason. Not doing so leads to more exploitation of the workers and more damage to local, legit businesses.

    If it doesn’t get shut down, it will proliferate, like the cities listed in other posts above. It will still be illegal, and when the government authorities feel like enforcing it, they will. This is even more unfair to the workers, since the government would be allowing the entire operation to continue, and then punishing random workers. If the government is going to allow it, the law should be changed. The government should not be able to just choose not to enforce the law. If you don’t like the law, again, please complain to your government.

    I have seen the street vendors in both Magnolia and Madison. Three days ago, I bought 2 boxes of strawberries from a street vendor in Magnolia. He said $13 each, I had a $100 bill and a $1 bill. He gave me 4 $20 bills and I paid $21 for 2 boxes. He spoke almost no English and I had to show him the $100 bill to ask for change. 2 strawberries in the whole bunch were completely covered in mold. I threw away those and all surrounding berries. I carefully audited each berry. Many had been smashed from the boxes being very full and then stacked. Taking no chances, any damaged berries got tossed. I even tossed berries slightly not ripe enough. When done I had about 1 and 1/4 boxes worth of berries. I washed them all and cut out all the stems. I now have a huge bowl of strawberries in the fridge, even after making strawberry ice cream in my new Cuisanart. :) The berries are a little on the tart side, but they are good. The value is quite good, since I have to throw away some of the berries even from the supermarket.

    You may have guessed, while I do believe the operation is illegal and it’s our government’s responsibility to shut it down, I also like cheap berries while it lasts. It isn’t my job to enforce the law.

  • Jane July 4, 2010 (9:07 am)

    That is a great article Nate. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

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