Council snow-response briefing #2: Too little extra plowing help?

(December 23 WSB photo)
The City Council‘s second briefing on the December snowstorm response wrapped up a short time ago – after more than three hours. So much was said, we will publish several separate reports, each focused on a particular area, rather than one mega-report. First: An encore appearance by SDOT director Grace Crunican, toward the hearing’s end (following her stint on the hot seat yesterday), to talk more about the problems of getting, and keeping, the roads cleared. One key point was the issue of whether more help could have been called in. For example – the road grader you see above was one of several pieces of equipment borrowed from other city departments. SDOT also procured a small amount of private contractor help. Crunican revealed those details today: Two contractors were called in, one for three days, one for one day. She said they were called in at the peak of the problems, and discontinued because they felt they had a handle on the situation. In hindsight, she says, she realizes that wasn’t the case. Councilmember Nick Licata said at that point, “It’s clear that information was being exchanged between (city) departments, but was it being COORDINATED? We’ve talked a lot about departments communicating to the public, but what about the information from the public, to the departments? If SDOT thought it had a handle on the situation, that’s not what people were telling us.” West Seattle-residing Councilmember Tom Rasmussen also reopened the issue of who decides which routes get plowed first — Crunican said the official, publicly distributed SDOT plan (see it here) is evaluated annually — and voiced a concern that in WS, nothing west of California SW is on the map (see it here). Crunican (also a West Seattleite) mentioned that at one point, Admiral Way was plowed to 63rd, after the primary routes were cleared. Rasmussen suggested that Alki SW and Beach Drive should be on the plow routes and quipped that people who live uphill from there could “slide downhill on garbage bags” if they had to, to at least be able to catch buses along those routes. And back on the topic of bringing in private contractors, Councilmember Jan Drago said, “I’m the only councilmember who was also here in ’96 (the last major “snow event”) and this whole issue is ‘deja vu all over again’ … There was a huge public outcry to buy more snowplows. I want to know if the decisions that were made then are still in place. What we decided then was that storms were so infrequent, we weren’t going to invest in a big fleet of snowplows, but we did agree to retrofit a number of our own vehicles.” Crunican noted that the city had fewer than a dozen plows then and has 27 now, so, she said, “The question is, do you want to staff up for more, do we want to go the contracting route, or do we want to look at (retrofitting) other city vehicles?” She also said: “I’m not immune to the fact we didn’t get the job done for the public.” More recaps to come – next, we’ll write about how Metro director Kevin Desmond explained what went wrong with his system and how its status was, and wasn’t, communicated to riders.

8 Replies to "Council snow-response briefing #2: Too little extra plowing help?"

  • GenHillOne January 6, 2009 (1:26 pm)

    I thought the disclosure of using 6 “back-hoes” and 1 grader (must have been the one above), was so odd. When questioned if they were really back-hoes, as opposed to front loaders, the speaker was emphatic and cupped his hand in a downward scooping motion of a bucket while describing how it would scrape away at the ice. Really??? I’m no construction worker, but a back-hoe? What logical thinking person thinks that is an effective way to clear a road?

  • WSB January 6, 2009 (1:29 pm)

    I am not entirely certain that the confusion there wasn’t just a matter of terminology — I didn’t see anything being deployed except front loaders, the grader, and snowplows (if anyone else DID, please advise) – will check with SDOT later, typing the other followups really fast first!

  • GenHillOne January 6, 2009 (1:34 pm)

    Perhaps he needs more time with his Tonka trucks then – even I know what a back-hoe looks like :P

    Thanks for being down there WSB; I thought it was an interesting watch.

  • Audrey January 6, 2009 (1:54 pm)

    Enjoy!

    ‘Twas the Week Before Christmas in Seattle

    ‘Twas the week before Christmas, and next to the Sound,
    Not a creature was stirring, for all were snowbound.
    Greyhound busses quit running, no matter the fare,
    And the mail men and garbage said they just couldn’t get there!

    The children were sliding down Queen Anne on their sleds.
    While roofs were collapsing on old people’s heads.
    And mama in her boots and I in my cap,
    Were stuck in the snow and ice and such crap.

    When at the Home Depot there arose such a clatter,
    I trudged from my car to see what was the matter.
    A group of sad souls were waving their cash,
    They couldn’t buy shovels, they’d sold in a flash.

    Tires were spinning and just wouldn’t go,
    And chains lay broken in the dirty old snow.
    Then, what to my surprise did my eyes look over and see?
    Eight representatives of SDOT,

    With a fat politician so lively and quick,
    I knew in a moment it wa s Mayor “Salt Nick”.

    More rapid than gun bans, his excuses they came,
    “To save our environment the roads stay the same!
    On Broadway! On Boren! On Yesler and Denny!,
    To clear off these roads would cost such a penny!

    Sliding down Thomas and onto a wall!
    The busses hung over I-5, ready to fall!
    Still, he insisted it wasn’t his fault,
    As the world’s greenest mayor he wouldn’t use SALT!

    That stuff’s corrosive, could hurt the fish.
    (But the Puget Sound’s SALT WATER you ignorant kish!)
    So snowy Seattle continued to stew,
    But Mayor “Salt Nick” just hadn’t a clue.

    While I stood there astonished, on nearby TV sets,
    I saw the airport was packed, no de-icer for jets.
    Since others couldn’t get down the roads to the ferry,
    The city decided to close Denny and Cherry.

    Police cars and fire trucks were highly impaired,
    Citizens got no impression that Mayor Salt Nick cared.
    A house that caught fire, or a rape in progress,
    Was less important than “going green” in Seattle – I guess!

    An accident closed the I-90 bridge,
    And people couldn’t drive down Phinney Ridge.
    Shovels, and salt had just flown off the shelf,
    And I laughed when I heard him in spite of myself.

    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    He tried to convey we had nothing to dread;
    He spoke many words, but did little work,
    Yet Seattle knew they should not have elected this jerk.

    Then thumbing his nose at his citizens’ plight,
    He turned to the crowd and exclaimed “We’ve done right!”,
    And then to his limo refusing to yield,
    He left to get solar panels installed on Qwest Field.

    But I heard him exclaim, as he skidded past me
    “Happy Christmas to all, heck, I give myself a ‘B’ “.

  • WSB January 6, 2009 (1:59 pm)

    Thanks, Audrey … Little crusade of mine, since that spoof has been going around for quite some time now (it’s been in the WSB Forum too), PLEASE credit the author when it’s forwarded — “Al in Colman Triangle” first posted it in a comment thread on a Seattle Times story. He wrote it. We are great believers in “credit where credit’s due” — TR

  • KT January 6, 2009 (4:33 pm)

    “SDOT also procured a small amount of private contractor help. Crunican revealed those details today: Two contractors were called in, one for three days, one for one day. She said they were called in at the peak of the problems, and discontinued because they felt they had a handle on the situation. In hindsight, she says, she realizes that wasn’t the case.” Enough for me to fire her if I was the Mayor of Seattle and actually interested in providing competent basic city services to my constituency. Instead, our Mayor says “you’re doing a heck of a job Crinican”. We can fix the problem in eight or nine months when Seattle city elections roll around.

  • wingme January 6, 2009 (6:28 pm)

    reminds me of Bush’s “you’re doing a heck of a job Brownie” during Katrina calamity.

  • Scott B. January 6, 2009 (11:02 pm)

    The heavy equipment machine that is most capable of improving driving conditions in Seattle city limits during significant snow events is the road grader.

    Very few construction companies own even one road grader. I know of only *one* construction company that owns road graders that has its main yard in the city limits of Seattle.

    There are a few construction companies outside the Seattle city limits but within King County that own a road grader.

    There are some heavy equipment dealers in King County that rent out road graders, but they do not provide the road grader operator.

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