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September 2, 2008 at 7:30 pm #636245
JoBParticipantNew Resident..
Obama was nominated after 20+ years of public service.. first as an organizer, then as a state legislator and last as US senator.
In case you don’t know, organizing is where young political hopefuls learn the basics of politics. The state legislature is where you learn how to make the compromises that get things done. and the senate is where you learn what it takes to turn your ideas into action in the White House.
He graduated from Yale School of Law with honors and was the editor of the Law Revue… an honor difficult to match.
And you think that Palin’s experience being mayor of a small town and governor of a small state.. winning the election on a NOT HIM campaign with job approval ratings from her constituents that have slid further every day she has been in office is somehow more germane?
You are right it is an “unparalleled” comparison.
The Vice President should be as capable of understanding national and international politics as the President.. after all the sole purpose of the job is to take over the governing of the country if something happens to the President.
Are you so comfortable handling the country over to her on the basis of her two years as governor of Alaska?
Nevermind her stance on right to life issues… which couldn’t be further from what you say yours are…
Palin is a first in more than gender i think. I don’t think either party has ever chosen a VP who was in the middle of an active corruption investigation for their own actions before..
ken.. if you are listening.. correct me if i am wrong.
September 2, 2008 at 7:32 pm #636246
beachdrivegirlParticipantI was kind of being sarcastic… she has been Governor of a state that is the size of the City of Seattle… making that assumption. Since Mayor Nickles has been in office since 2002.. that is more than four years longer than Palins stint. he is the most qualified individual! hmmm. i really wouldn’t want to see him as the President.
September 2, 2008 at 7:33 pm #636247
JenVMemberBDG I hope that was a typo and you meant “wouldn’t” :)
September 2, 2008 at 7:35 pm #636248
JoBParticipantbeachdrivegirl…
thanks for saying the obvious..
i don’t know why common sense flies out the window when people are defensive…
but Palin sure gives them plenty to be defensive about:)
September 2, 2008 at 7:36 pm #636249
beachdrivegirlParticipantThanks JenV got that corrected…
September 2, 2008 at 7:39 pm #636250
JenVMemberNo problem…you just kinda scared me with a vision of Mayor Nickel-n-Dime as commander in chief… :)
September 2, 2008 at 7:40 pm #636251
acemotelParticipantJoB, great post above. Unfortunately, the apologists and true believers just don’t get it.
September 2, 2008 at 7:45 pm #636252
beachdrivegirlParticipantAnother first might be the fact that during the 90’s she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party… the very party who wants to secede from the United States.
September 2, 2008 at 7:56 pm #636253
walfredoMemberMore on the Alaskan Independence Party- In addition to there stated goal of secession from the US, they are the Alaskan Affiliate of the American Constitution Party whose stated goal is “to restore American jurisprudence to its original Biblical common-law foundations.”
This gets scary by the half-hour. WTF was the crazy old man thinking?
September 2, 2008 at 7:56 pm #636254
AnonymousInactiveSo, even though it’s suggested that I lack common sense, I believe in candidates who will practice what they preach:
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=34923
This posted for those whose most important issues are women’s issues/rights.
September 2, 2008 at 7:58 pm #636255
walfredoMemberhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8&eurl=http://obamaiswinning.com/
But that was a long time ago you say? Check out the video of her speaking at this years convention! Plus, the beard on the party president is priceless!
September 2, 2008 at 7:59 pm #636256
JenVMember“So individual freedom and independence is extremely important to me, and that’s why I’m a Republican”
so individual rights are important to her…as long as she decides what I can and can’t do with my own uterus. Independence is important to her…as long as I follow her religion. She absolutely does not practice what she preaches.
September 2, 2008 at 8:01 pm #636257
AnonymousInactivewalfredo – It’s obvious that McCain (“the crazy old man”) WAS thinking. He’s appealing to the extreme conservative base of his Party by nominating Palin.
This from HumanEvents.com:
“Republican spirits were buoyed by Sen. John McCain’s choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. A convention that threatened to lack all enthusiasm now holds the possibility of catapulting McCain ahead of Obama.”
September 2, 2008 at 8:01 pm #636258
walfredoMemberFrom Wikipedia-
With neighboring Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, the city is unofficially a part of the Spokane-Coeur d’Alene metropolitan area, which accounts for a population of nearly 700,000 people.
This is about as close as you can come to an equivalent size population to Alaska locally… Governor of Spokane for almost two years, and she only has one ongoing federal investigation targeting her abuse of power?
September 2, 2008 at 8:04 pm #636259
AnonymousInactiveJenV – Where in that article does Palin suggest that every American must “follow her religion”?
If you research her life (and not just past beauty pageant victories), you will see that she certainly does practice what she preaches.
September 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm #636260
JoBParticipantLOL.. New Resident.. you slay me.
i read the article you referenced.. and apparently you are incensed because Obama didn’t have more highly paid women on his staff.
I am too. I think more female input would be invaluable to his campaign.
But, i am not so incensed that i would overlook the fact that Palin’s position on birth control chooses life for the unborn child over life for the mother… as does McCain’s as of this campaign.
or that both Palin and McCain seem to think that the only way a woman should have the right to sue for pay discrimination is if she is devious or lucky enough to find out about the discrimination and gather proof within the first 90 days of being hired.
And yet.. they present those positions as supportive of women’s rights.
Women have no right to extreme medical care to save their lives if there is a fetus involved and women have no right to file pay discrimination lawsuits unless they can immediately ascertain discrimination in spite of company policies against divulging pay rates.
yup.. sounds like they have women’s best interests in mind to me ;-> NOT
September 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm #636261
JenVMemberit’s not in that particular article, NR, but isn’t her whole platform based on bringing Christianity back into our government? …no thanks. Separation of church and state. But right wing Christian nutjobs just seem to skim over that part, don’t they?
and no, she does not practice what she preaches. If she really believed in individual freedom, she would not be anti-choice. it is MY body and mine to do with what I please. Just because her religion has a problem with it should not be my problem. She just throws statements like that out there like a buzzword…independence, family values….she is a hypocrite of the highest degree, just like most Republicans.
September 2, 2008 at 8:15 pm #636262
walfredoMemberNewRes- it’s obvious that is her only strength left. But I think any objective person would agree, that was not the only goal of her candidacy on Friday when it was announced.
She was supposed to be a Maverick, and independant… She was supposed to attract Hillary supporters.
She was not supposed to be this type of embarrassment to the party, and to McCain, but I agree w/ BDG’s post earlier- her selection says a heckuva lot more about why McCain is nowhere near ready to be president, then it does about the rather obvious point that she is historically unqualified for this position.
He talked to her for 15 minutes before selecting her his running mate, for clearly political reasons. He did next to no vetting. That is not country first.
September 2, 2008 at 8:15 pm #636263
AnonymousInactiveAnd here is where we can amicably agree to disagree.
In my experience, most liberals are hypocrites of the highest degree and I get the privilege of witnessing this everyday.
September 2, 2008 at 8:16 pm #636264
JoBParticipantLOL.. again New Resident.. you are providing a lot of humor today.
she sure does practice what she preaches..
you should read what she preaches..
September 2, 2008 at 8:17 pm #636265
JoBParticipanthypocrites????
hmmm.. 17 year old 5 months pregnant daughter is doing the right thing by keeping her baby and marrying the father…
was that 5 months? and 17?
hmmmmm
September 2, 2008 at 8:20 pm #636266
beachdrivegirlParticipantMy post from the Palin Story thread.
Great post which addresses the real concern w/Palin as the VP pick. The real issue is not Palins lack of experience and anti pro-choice movement or her family life. It does nto lie with Palin at all it lies in the fact that McCain is far to irrational to be President. HE officially bombed the first “executive” decision he was put in charge of making.
It’s About McCain
02 Sep 2008 11:56 am
As the Palin pick starts dominating the news cycles – and not in a good way – you have to ask yourself what the fundamental point of this story is. I can’t put it better than this reader:
I don’t think it’s Troopergate, the curious pregnancy, the pregnant unwed daughter, the Alaskan separatists, or the bottomless ignorance that makes the difference. Palin is by any measure the worst vice presidential pick of the modern age (which considering Agnew, Quayle and Eagleton is quite a statement). The killer is McCain’s decision-making process and what this tells us about it. The man is a risk-taker who makes snap decisions “from the gut.” He liked Palin. She looked like a maverick and a bit like himself. He didn’t invest the time or resources to look into her deeply.
How can a person like this be put at the helm in a time of skyrocketing international tensions?
To my mind, this pick is not about Palin’s unreadiness to be president. It’s about McCain’s unreadiness to be president. This act of judgment – a blend of ignorance, gut, cynicism, and pure egotism – makes him seem like a worse potential presdent than even George W. Bush. This is McCain’s first real executive decision. And it is unbelievably shallow, incompetent and reckless.
How seriously does he take service to his country when he make a decision this important this crazily?
September 2, 2008 at 8:20 pm #636267
MissKMemberWOW new resident….looks like you might have moved to A. the wrong state B. the wrong city C. the wrong coast. A, B, and C are as liberal as you can get!
September 2, 2008 at 8:24 pm #636268
JenVMembercite. one. example.
here, I’ll give you a few for reference.
Rebublican Larry Craig- anti-gay, pro-family values….unless he’s getting a little in an airport bathroom.
Bob Barr – Republican/Independent. Outspoken on abortion….unless it’s his wife getting one. Also opposed to gay marriage…but he’s been married 3 times…and cheated on his last wife with his current one. Yep, real family values there.
Helen Chenoweth, Republican Congresswoman from Idaho. Admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. But, she has asked for God’s forgiveness, so it’s ok, right?
Newt Gingrich, Republican from Georgia, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. ….but he thought it was fine to call for Bill Clinton to be impeached for the same thing?
You might want to check out the definition of the word “hypocrisy” sometime….
September 2, 2008 at 8:27 pm #636269
CaitParticipantShe has no foreign policy experience. She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. She’s doesn’t think humans are the cause of climate change. She’s solidly in line with John McCain’s “Big Oil first” energy policy. Judgment is obviously more important and since when has experience gotten us anything we needed as a country. Experience tends to mean that you’re mired in Washington BS, so in that case yes. She probably does have more “experience”. Need I remind anyone here of Bush’s years of experience prior to the White House?
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