Here’s how the mayor answered West Seattle Indivisible questions about ‘one of the most offensive gestures against human rights that we’ve ever witnessed’

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By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Steps away from the sun-splashed grounds of West Seattle Summer Fest, more than 60 people devoted the heart of their Sunday afternoon to a topic that was anything but festive.

They were invited by West Seattle Indivisible to the Center for Active Living‘s upstairs hall for what was billed as a half-hour with Mayor Bruce Harrell answering questions about the city’s response to the federal operation aimed at deporting thousands of immigrants. He instead spent more than an hour and a quarter talking with the group, mostly in Q&A, though he said he was unable to answer some questions because he didn’t expect a large crowd and hadn’t brought an entourage of assistants/cabinet members/etc..

The 66-year-old mayor – who is running for a second term – opened by acknowledging most of those in the crowd appeared to be close to his age, calling them “seasoned” and declaring, “We are unapologetically patriots.” Then he proclaimed, “What we are seeing now is one of the most offensive gestures against human rights that we’ve ever witnessed.”

He said multiple times during his appearance that at both local and national levels. discussions continue regarding “what SHOULD we do?” as well as what is possible. He mentioned a pamphlet that “talks about our values (as) a human-rights city … the 14th Amendment says, due process for all persons, not just for all citizens.”

He veered into personal territory, with the story of his Japanese-American mother’s internment resulting in him growing up “in a household where my mom said, ‘don’t trust the government’.” Then he went back to the aforementioned pamphlet, which he said contained advice such as the right not to open your door, the right to stay silent, the right not to sign anything.

The city government is dealing with federal demands too, Harrell said. observing that “the judicial body is keeping us afloat right now.”

He also had advice for those who choose to participate in protests: “We have to be loud, we need to be organized,” but also, protesters, Harrell said, should be aware they too are being watched, and that they may be infiltrated by “disruptors” whose sole intent is to cause trouble and who “are not dressed like you … but carry signs with what we believe in.” He mused that “there has to be a reason for” the federal administration’s attack on human rights, including LGBTQ people’s rights; he suggested the attacks are rooted in “a vision for this country that’s not healthy and not right.”

Q&A began shortly thereafter. “Are we safe to protest on sidewalks?” Harrell said he wasn’t certain, but audience members quickly answered, “You can protest but you can’t obstruct!” The mayor then suggested maybe the city could print a list of protest do’s and don’ts.

Will Seattle Police collaborate with ICE and federal troops in any way? “No,” Harrell replied, to both. (One attendee later claimed SPD had “cooperate(d) with ICE” at a Federal Building event and that SPD let agents “drive away with kidnap victims in the back of a van”; Harrell said the incident in question is “being investigation” and he’s so far getting “mixed information.” It was also suggested that SPD officers are getting conflicting directives from the police union and Harrell said that is currently the subject of “active discussions.”)

What can police use against demonstrators? The mayor referred to the recent filing seeking to end the federal consent decree, and said he is “confident I have the right people,” including newly confirmed Police Chief Shon Barnes, making decisions.

“What are you and SPD doing to keep people from being taken by masked agents?” This led to a somewhat contentious exchange. The mayor said he’s on record as opposed to agents being masked, “but we are not allowed to interfere” and they don’t get advanced intel on “how they are going to raid, who they are going to raid. We can’t stop an officer when we don’t know what they are going to do.”

“What about when you’re not sure who they are?” That was a reference to operations in multiple states – including one recently in White Center – in which the agents wore masks and vests simply marked POLICE, and traveled in unmarked vehicles. Questioners wanted to know how known authorities – like SPD – could even know for sure that these are authorized federal agents. “To impersonate an officer is a crime,” Harrell noted, and then suggested people call 911 if they suspect impersonation is happening. One person then asked bluntly, “Will you investigate before or after a person is taken?”

Harrell got a bit defensive as this line of questioning went on, saying he had a directive “to protect people from these illegal unauthorized ICE raids” but also acknowledging they may not know who’s “authorized” and who’s not: “Our officers are not going to get into fisticuffs with a federal agent” but suggesting that “police will come between (unverified agents and prospective detainees) to make sure a crime is not being committed.”

How can police verify that agents really are ICE? Harrell said there’s no policy/procedure on that yet because these operations involving masked, generically dressed people are a recent phenomenon. He added that “no mayor in the entire country has this figured out, this is uncharted territory” but says his administration is working on it, as are other mayors (noting that he had spoken to the mayors of Nashville and Portland the day before).

Asked about Lewis County in southwestern Washington expressly declaring itself “not a sanctuary county,” Harrell observed that “we are a welcoming state so I don’t think that’s consistent with state policy” but went on to caution that he has “84 square miles in the city to protect” and doesn’t “have the bandwidth to go out to Lewis County.”

The remainder of the questioning focused largely on what concerned people can and/or should do to help with the immigration situation. (Take “rapid response” training, one attendee suggested; WSI is offering that July 31.) The mayor said he’ll meet with deputy mayor Greg Wong “to develop an answer,” adding that he was inspired by “the energy in this room” but insisted that he’s been “focusing on the people (who’ve been) getting arrested, not the politics.” To that end, he noted, “this isn’t the only thing I have to worry about” from the federal administration – the “big bill,” cybersecurity, “lack of regulations in the AI space…I apologize if I don’t know every answer to every question but …it’s not a great time to be a mayor of a blue city, trust me, we are a big target for them.”

In conclusion, he noted again that he had shown up without an entourage – “I came here a little vulnerable, frankly” – but promised that he would fulfill the “marching orders” presented to him during the Q&A: “The biggest is to come back and strategize what we can do together.”

58 Replies to "Here's how the mayor answered West Seattle Indivisible questions about 'one of the most offensive gestures against human rights that we've ever witnessed'"

  • WS Resident July 14, 2025 (2:25 pm)

    I feel like all this unrest and violations of human rights is all just one big smoke screen for something much more significant happening behind closed doors.  One way governments move forward with sinister agendas is by creating chaos in other areas – chaos that gets the masses looking one way, while something sinister is playing out in the other direction. I’m really a nobody, just a neighbor, but I’m seeing more and more of my colleagues getting laid off with their jobs replaced by AI agents. It’s all over the news. This is just the start to what will become a massive crisis, and not just a US-based one, all in the name of corpoprate profits/greed. Alright, I didn’t mean to digress, but there’s just more to this than meets the eye – I am just not certain what exactly.            

    • Watertowerjim July 15, 2025 (6:27 am)

      You’re overthinking it.  He’s just cleaning up the mess from the wide open border the last four years.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  This would not be happening if not for Biden’s  incompetence,  

      • curbfeeler July 15, 2025 (4:43 pm)

        You are deluded. If you support Drumpf you are like him. Racist, fascist, on the wrong side of history.

      • Mjm July 15, 2025 (8:28 pm)

        The cruelty of this adminstration that plans to incinerate 400 tons of food for starving people instead of simply giving it to them has nothing to do with Biden or the border problem.  It’s cruel, incompentent, shortsighted and unconscionable.  Just like a lot if what they are doing with immigrants.  Sick mind, sick soul.

        • Maria July 16, 2025 (9:54 am)

          100%!!! 

      • Trenton July 15, 2025 (8:34 pm)

        yep

      • CB1 July 16, 2025 (2:09 pm)

        Wrong. Trump tanked a border protection bill that would have reformed immigration. Why? Because it was sponsored by Biden Harris. And because Trump benefits from the chaos.

    • FFS July 15, 2025 (3:20 pm)

      The violations are not only of human rights (putting people in concentration camps where some have died, sending them to countries they did not come from where they will be at risk of torture, disappearing them to places where they cannot be reached) but of due process rights guaranteed to everyone under the Constitution. If this Administration can violate the rights of immigrants (legal or illegal) and ignore birthright citizenship, they can violate anyone’s rights. This is not immigration reform. This is not deportation. Deporting someone means sending them back to their country of origin, not to a prison or third country. Why is it asking too much to expect our own government to follow the law?

  • Jaye July 14, 2025 (2:51 pm)

    I appreciate the situation Mayor Harrell was in. He simply didn’t have all the answers. Some of us (including me) objected to his referring to Jan. 6 as a “protest.” When I called him out about it, he seemed quite defensive, almost condescending. It may seem a minor quibble, but WORDS MATTER.
    With his experience as a lawyer, he should know this. “Protest” is a weak word, an incredible understatement for what went on. Officers were killed or severely injured, The “protesters” (ha!) smeared feces on the halls. Urine and  blood splattered the offices and hallways.”No Kings” and “Hands Off!” were protests; Jan. 6 was a mob atack, an act of violence, an insurrection, a descrecration of America’s Capitol, a riot – any of these words/phrases would have been better. P.S. Guess who had to clean up this disgusting mess? Brown and Black custodial staff.

    • Lauren July 14, 2025 (6:54 pm)

      Thank you for being there and for holding the mayor accountable. 

    • BLK July 14, 2025 (9:52 pm)

      On the contrary, I thought your calling out the mayor “as an English major” was overwrought, condescending & inappropriate.  Yes, words matter. Mayor Harrell misspoke, he acknowledged he misspoke.  Maybe let it go….

      • Jaye July 15, 2025 (2:43 am)

        You make it sound like I called the mayor an English major! But he spoke about being a lawyer. The acknowledgement of his mistake had a condescending tone. And, yes, he apologized. And yes, I was angry. Think about what happened on Jan. 6. That was no “protest.” Harrell should have been smart enough to use an appropriate term for the violent, disgusting attack on our Capitol. “Protest” is weak and a vast understatement for one of the worst assaults  on our sacred democracy in American history.This is getting silly. You and I will not persuade each other. Enough said. 

        • Donna July 15, 2025 (1:40 pm)

          His word choice was unfortunate,  to say the least. He deserved to be called on it. Your intensity and persistence was a bit much. State your point about it in a clear, concise way, in a followup sentence say why it’s a problem (briefly),  wait for a response. It wasn’t necessary nor effective to go on at length. He apologized. You call it condescending. I call it a reflection back to you of your tone. Words matter–yours, too, not only his.

      • Raye August 1, 2025 (4:20 am)

    • JRD July 16, 2025 (8:39 am)

      Don’t forget that SPD had more folks at the Jan 6 protest than any other police department in the US. Four of them are still on the force: Jacob Briskey, Scott Bach, Michel Settle, and Jason Marchione 

  • Derek July 14, 2025 (3:39 pm)

    It is high time for a new mayor. I’m so annoyed with his answers.  Does he need reminding that both his parents’ ancestors were targeted by government in similar manners?

    • Jethro Marx July 15, 2025 (9:56 am)

      Ahh, yes Derek, I’m sure he does need a random white guy to inform him on his family’s history of oppression and how he ought to respond.

  • alkiannie July 14, 2025 (5:07 pm)

    I wasn’t there, but I appreciate that he came out to meet with folks. 

    • Jaye July 14, 2025 (8:34 pm)

      I appreciate it, too, but it’s part of his job to speak with constituents. 

  • onion July 14, 2025 (5:14 pm)

    Thanks for this important report.This snippet jumped out at me: It was also suggested that SPD officers are getting conflicting directives from the police union and Harrell said that is currently the subject of “active discussions.”Our police union wants to do a lot more than argue for better pay and benefits. They also try to determine how policing itself is done, regardless what the mayor, police chief, or Management hierarchy wants. And the union leadership contains a significant percentage of Trump/MAGA types. Good luck to the mayor in reining them in.

    • Rhonda July 14, 2025 (6:11 pm)

      We have our police unions so Mayors can’t “rein us in”. We’re organized labor, not slave labor. #UnionYes #Solidarity

      • bill July 14, 2025 (8:45 pm)

        Rhonda: The general citizenry is the police’s employer and the mayor holds our delegated authority to supervise, direct, and command the police. Time and again the police have demonstrated they need firm restraint. 

        • Seattlite July 14, 2025 (11:37 pm)

          That’s your opinion, Bill.  SPD has done an absolute stellar job of protecting citizens in the midst of an ongoing police officer shortage.  That is my opinion based on observation and fact.  By the way, I always thank police officers for their service whenever the opportunity arises.

      • Andrew July 14, 2025 (9:02 pm)

        You’re getting paid, right?  Not imprisoned and compelled to work against your will? Great, you’re not slave labor

        But you do need to follow the directive of your boss: the mayor.  Not the mob boss in charge of SPOG #unionSolidarity #exceptForCops

      • onion July 14, 2025 (9:06 pm)

        To Rhonda: I should have been more clear. I have absolutely no problem with the police union working to secure better pay and benefits for our men and women in blue. They have extremely difficult and important jobs. Where I disagree with the union is when they attempt to set department policy. That responsibility belongs to the police chief and his team and the mayor.

        • Sixbuck July 14, 2025 (11:02 pm)

          Our mayors and police chiefs have been failing for decades, current ones especially worse. I wouldn’t listen to either of them about pretty much anything. Both failed up. It’s the Seattle way!

          • wsres July 15, 2025 (3:01 pm)

            Leave Seattle then. I am voting for Harrell again.

          • Angie H July 16, 2025 (5:25 pm)

            Agreed wsres! All sixbuck does is complain and harass. Why are you still here if you hate “both” so much? Asking for a friend…

      • Pete July 14, 2025 (10:01 pm)

        The former vice president you guys elected wasn’t exactly the best of the best, what happened there? He’s had more use of force complaints than I’ve had hot dinners. His name is Daniel Auderer. He was in the news a year or so back.https://openoversight.tech-bloc-sea.dev/officers/69

        • Rhonda July 17, 2025 (11:21 pm)

          “You guys”, Pete? He’s not the Vice President of our Union. He’s the VP of SPD’s SPOG.

          • k July 18, 2025 (6:53 am)

            The post was about SPD and you responded talking about “our union” so most readers would assume you work for SPD, not Bellevue.  If you want to take the tack that SPOG has nothing to do with you, then your original comment had no place in this thread to begin with because that’s who we’re talking about.  You need to pick a lane.

      • Crib July 14, 2025 (10:13 pm)

        I work in public education. If my union leadership directed me to ignore administration and instead start teaching some other curriculum unilaterally decided by union leadership, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t fly. Police have the power of life and death over the public, and should be held to at least the same standard of public accountability.

      • Burgerman July 14, 2025 (10:28 pm)

        Rhonda. Convenient that you want a police union as a Trump apologist, but you wouldn’t want one in other circumstances. Also, your stance is disgusting and hypocritical. You jump immediately to solidarity for the police as a whole, including those of YOU who want to violate the civil and human rights of those who employ you. How do you sleep at night? Serious question. Do you sleep peacefully knowing that so many of you hate the people that surround you, and will stop at nothing to support a corrupt union whose goal is a police state at all costs? I pray I never have to have a conversation with you face to face. I’m not sure I could remain calm. No, that is not a threat of physical violence, lest you try to attack or have me falsely arreated. It is, however, a call-out for unacceptable behavior on your part. Defend it. I dare you.

        • Jake July 15, 2025 (9:39 am)

          Burgerman, is there a single police union that is remotely “liberal” or even slightly left of fringe far-right? I have not seen one example in the entire country. This is why 2020 protests were important. Democrats abandoned every piece of good will in the name of saving face with wealthy techno oligarchs. Sad.

        • Rhonda July 15, 2025 (5:37 pm)

          Burgerman, I’m a 5-foot tall, 102-pound, elderly Asian woman. If you can’t control your anger then, sadly, you’re Exhibit A of why municipalities and unincorporated areas require law enforcement agencies to protect the vulnerable. I ADORE the 150,000+ residents that I serve and protect. By the way, I sleep wonderfully, except not as well these days due to menopause 🔥

      • k July 15, 2025 (9:36 am)

        The union’s job is to protect workers from abuses at the hands of management, not to tell management how to run their organization.  Work places still have rules.  If a checker at Safeway was changing prices on everything they scanned and putting each item in a separate bag, I would want them to be reined in.  If a carpenter started building whatever he wanted instead of following the plans, I would want his boss to rein him in.  Using your union as a cudgel to stop enforcement of any rules or accountability measures for workers is the behavior that gives unions a bad name.  Police don’t get a special set of rules just because they have bigger feelings than the rest of us.

      • JRD July 16, 2025 (8:45 am)

        SPOG bends over backwards to defend the worst of SPD’s cops at the expense of more money and benefits for the rest of cops. I can’t stop you from supporting SPOG but if you’re going to embrace a union that helps out armed alcoholics and wife beaters out on our streets don’t be surprised that the people who live here are going to be upset about it. 

    • Lauren July 14, 2025 (6:55 pm)

      That jumped out at me as well. I’m not at all surprised to hear this, given the police union’s track record. 

  • Sixbuck July 14, 2025 (6:40 pm)

    Dear Mayor Harrell,You are a pathetic excuse for a ‘leader’. Please do the city of Seattle a solid a resign!

  • Lauren July 14, 2025 (6:56 pm)

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I haven’t been a big Harrell fan. But this? I am a fan of this. Even with room for improvement, it sounds like he spoke very clearly and forcefully in favor of human rights. I am glad to hear he’s taking ICE seriously. 

    • bill July 14, 2025 (8:51 pm)

      Well said Lauren. I concur.

    • Andrew July 14, 2025 (9:06 pm)

      This is good – but too little too late.  This is baseline for Katie Wilson.

      • Derek July 14, 2025 (11:39 pm)

        Yep. Wilson won my vouchers and vote. And Harrell is an abject coward. Doesn’t he have some billionaires to be texting?

    • Burgerman July 14, 2025 (10:32 pm)

      Agreed. 100%. I think that meeting alone will make Harrell a better leader for all of Seattle, including those on both sides who have their heads in the clouds.

      • Credit where it's due July 14, 2025 (11:10 pm)

        He also spent over triple the amount of time he’d committed to. That’s a meaningful gesture. Maybe if he keeps doing things like this, and gets concrete defenses against ICE put in place, he’ll convince me to vote for him.

  • Jortiz July 14, 2025 (10:00 pm)

    I love how WSB just calls them immigrants. Clearly there is nothing wrong with regular immigrants. However, there is something wrong with a subset of immigrants who ignore laws and cut in front of the rest of the immigrants waiting in line to get here. If we just waltzed into Mexico and disregarded their laws, they’d send us right back. 

    • Jay July 15, 2025 (9:12 am)

      It’s not about illegal immigrants, they’re grabbing people at the courthouse getting green cards and citizenship. Several of the people in El Salvador right now were grabbed at their citizenship interviews against the will of USCIS. Be honest, it’s about making America white again. This has nothing to do with immigration policy or legal issues. It’s about scapegoating minorities. 

      • Maria July 16, 2025 (10:00 am)

        Exactly 

  • Scarlett July 14, 2025 (10:02 pm)

    The irony is that undocumented who have been able to squirrel away enough money and send it back to Mexico or other latin American country before being deported, may be able to retire cheaply.   The same can’t be said for millions of Americans are going to be eating cat food and bagging groceries when their “golden years” come around, in what is now “Home of the Free, the Brave, and the Ripped-Off.”   

    • Sixbuck July 14, 2025 (11:06 pm)

      Your words strike truth!

    • derek July 14, 2025 (11:36 pm)

      And just how many were able to save money? Got data on that? While being in cages and separate for who knows how long from families? Odd statement Scarlett.  It’s fine to point out how many Americans are poor but don’t need to make up something about the ones getting deported by a racist and unjust system to do so.

      • Scarlett July 16, 2025 (9:48 pm)

        You’re trawling really, really deep to find something that you can get all indignant and offended by, Derek.  

    • helpermonkey July 15, 2025 (11:30 am)

      Wow, Scarlett, that is some next level Fox News style fear mongering. You have no proof of anything, but you don’t hesitate to pull nonsense out of your rear end specifically to “other” people. Maga is a hell of a drug, huh?   

  • The bar is in hell July 15, 2025 (7:53 am)

    Harrell loves to “sweep” unhoused people, who are then frequently left without their belongings, including important paperwork and documentation. If the city steals & trashes their documentation, how can they protect themselves against ICE? Harrell is all talk. His actions show how little he actually cares about people.

  • Jake B. July 15, 2025 (8:49 am)

    Harrell calling this “unchartered territory” is beyond a joke. This is history repeating itself over and over. In Italy it was the black shirts. In Germany, the brownshirts. 

  • AK July 15, 2025 (3:18 pm)

    Will Seattle Police collaborate with ICE and federal troops in any way? “No,” … I Love this! Thank-you as ICE are despicable beings!

  • curbfeeler July 15, 2025 (4:45 pm)

    I was impressed with Mayor Harrell. His passion for our rights was evident.

  • 40 yrs your Sr July 16, 2025 (10:19 am)

    The mayor’s goal is the same as any politician’s goal, to get re-elected with the mostly uninformed electorate that they have. 

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