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    JoB
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    this speaks for itself.. from Harry Reid

    “Tomorrow, I will bring the Intelligence Authorization Conference Report to the floor of the Senate. Section 327 of the bill establishes one interrogation standard for the entire U.S. government. This would effectively end torture by requiring that the intelligence community abide by the standards articulated in the Army Field Manual.

    In order to attempt to block the ban on torture, Republicans may filibuster the bill or raise a point of order, claiming the torture provision violates the rules of the Senate. If the Parliamentarian agrees, we will be forced to try and waive the point of order. Either way we need 60 votes.

    Already some Republicans have signaled they will side with us – however we need more.

    Take a stand against torture”

    the link didn’t seem to come through, so i will go back and get it.

    http://www.giveemhellharry.com/page/petition/stoptorture

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    JanS
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    Thanks, JoB…

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    Ken
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    Like most Republicans, Justice Scalia suffers from the “24” fantasy.

    For real info on what is and is not torture, visit this link:

    http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/2007/10/waterboarding-is-torture-perio/

    What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea.

    — Mohandas Gandhi

    US Judge Scalia on ‘So-Called Torture’

    “It seems to me you have to say, as unlikely as that is, it would be absurd to say you couldn’t, I don’t know, stick something under the fingernail, smack him in the face. It would be absurd to say you couldn’t do that,”

    — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    “I suppose it’s the same thing about so-called torture,” he said in the interview. “Is it really so easy to determine that smacking someone in the face to find out where he has hidden the bomb that is about to blow up Los Angeles is prohibited by the Constitution?

    “Is it obvious, that what can’t be done for punishment can’t be done to exact information that is crucial to the society? I think it’s not at all an easy question, to tell you the truth.”

    — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    “Europeans get really quite self-righteous, you know, (saying) ‘no civilized society uses it.’ They used it themselves — 30 years ago,” he said, adding that a majority of Europeans probably supported capital punishment anyway.

    — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    “I don’t look to their law, why do they look to mine?” he said.

    “We don’t pretend to be Western mullahs who decide what is right and wrong for the whole world,” he said in the broadcast.

    — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hSKKtDg6GlOtxvQADw_pW5FWEJ9wD8UP28A80

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    Ken
    Participant

    Another link

    http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/wallach_drop_by_drop_draft_20061016.pdf

    Note the irony in the administration position to use a violation of the Genecva conventions to charge 6 “detainees” with violating the Geneva conventions.

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