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[JoB]

It is a mistake to think that pro choice people don’t realize that a fetus is a potential child.

The person who realizes it most of all is the woman who has to make the decision whether she can responsibly raise the child she is carrying if it carries to full term.

JenV said she didn’t regret her decision, but i am betting she didn’t make it lightly either.

I feel great sorrow for those women who abort without thinking it through and then later regret it. But i feel equal sorrow for those women who don’t feel regret but nevertheless feel their own personal loss.

I made my choices, but i paid heavily for them when i had my child and gave him up. Imagine believing you would never see your child. Imagine the sorrow each birthday brings.

then imagine that child finds you and all goes well and still every birthday you get a thank you call for not killing them.

thank you for not being a butcher.

Not thank you for caring enough to give me the best start in life that you could.

last year i explained to my son how hurtful his thank you was in a way he must have understood.. because he didn’t call to thank me this year.

I did what i could for him. but, it didn’t turn out nearly as well for him as i had hoped… and i nearly took my own life over the sorrow long before i had any opportunity to meet him.

And i am a success story.

Each woman’s experience faced with an unintended pregnancy is unique… which is why the decision has to be their own.

[cjboffoli]

It’s not like she didn’t know I was coming. I had an appointment. All she had to do was step out into the alley or something. I would have waited five minutes while she went and smoked a cig.

I’m disappointed with myself for sitting there for a half hour as opposed to just walking out. It’s easy to blow it off as “just one cigarette” but the Surgeon General has said that “no amount of exposure to second-hand smoke is safe.” They say that more than 40,000 annual non-smoker deaths nationwide can be attributed to exposure to cigarette smoke. So I think the era of minimizing the dangers is probably past us.

Like I said though, if you want to smoke then knock yourself out. Who am I to tell you that you can’t. But in this situation she was breaking the law, selfishly disregarding the health and comfort of her customers and lying to someone who had been a loyal customer and generous tipper. I wish her the best but I’m not going back there.

[bubblegummom]

It appears to involve about 36 houses in the area of Manning and 35th.

[bubblegummom]

Don’t you think it lowers the resale value of the house, though? It sounds pretty bad. Who would want to buy a house in a peat-settlement prone area? The house has been in our family for over 50 years, and a part of the City of Seattle for more than that, and the land use planner I’ve asked a few questions of via e-mail, Brennon Staley, says he doesn’t know of anything bad having happened there, and I don’t either. It makes me feel like they are neurotically looking for something to keep themselves busy with.

[Cait]

The same respect to you, BDG. I can see where that would definitely affect your stance. However, I find it fascinating that no matter what your direct experience, the stances vary so much… I think that speaks loudly in itself.

[JenV]

BDG- thank you for speaking up- that took courage.

It seems the only logical conclusion is the only person who should be making decisions about abortion are the people who are actually going through it.

Peace.

[Gina]

2600 block, 45th/46th. Penske Rental Truck, plate number A12961Z. Hit my parking strip tree, aggravating slight split in tree, now split to almost to ground, and additional split in limb. Tree is fifty years old, so quite a big split. The tree does not look salvageble.Ran out after hearing big cracking noise, driver took off. Walked block, found truck, saw GE Delivery on driver’s shirt just as he was leaving. Got license number.

I have no idea which house was delivered to. If anyone had something delivered today, could you let me know who you bought from? I tried the local GE numbers, and they all use Enterprise rental trucks.

Would this sort of thing warrant talking to the police? Doesn’t seem like a 911 situation, but jeepers, it is a street tree, and it will be 100 bucks from the city to get a permit to remove it to start with. I can just imagine what it will cost to have it removed.

Yes, I am pissed off.

[Cait]

I would like to say that anyone who is on the other thread talking about how horrible abortions are better be showing up with your signs and your anger to protest those actually showing physical violence to LIVE BABIES/PEOPLE. That should drum up some support for you, JoB! :) More power to you! I wish I could be there, but I’m afraid that I would be arrested for assault if I ran into anyone who actually bought into this horse caca.

I shall honk as I drive by in solidarity but I shall keep my Irish anger at home for the best interests of all involved.

[JoB]

New resident..

let’s see.. statistics?

dave siad 30% of women get abortions as a primary means of birth control

the next study quoted said 40 something percent

then you say most…

most???

if 30% of women use abortion as birth control.. that means 70% don’t.

if .. lets say 45% use abortion as birth control that means 55% don’t.

it’s basic math even before you look at the studies to find out what questions they asked to arrive at what looks like pretty inflated figures to me.

if that’s the kind of fuzzy math your judgments are based on it’s no wonder you come up with such negative judgments about other women…

[Cait]

JenV – THANK YOU! I have respect for someone who speaks up like that! Personally, I have never had one and most of my opinions come from my political views and my background in women’s studies. It takes truly thinking and delving for those of us who have not had abortions in order to think about the dynamics that go on in that situation and they are NUMEROUS and complicated.

I personally think that anyone who passes judgment on people who have had abortions are wrong, whatever your stance is. It is no one’s place. When you think about the societal issues present in abortion rights, you get down to some really sullied roots that no one wants to talk about which is what makes it so taboo to this day.

[RS]

Thanks for the perspective and for sharing, JenV. I worked at a PP in the abortion clinic and saw as many varieties of situations as there were patients. Some people I encountered made me question their decision-making skills, but then I started wondering what kind of childhood or circumstances or violence or lack of opportunity or lack of people teaching them to give a damn about themselves had led them to make those choices. And then as hard as it was sometimes, I stopped judging *anybody* for being there.

And a note on the other thread, having had very first-hand experience with some of those protesters, I personally believe that they are often evil, manipulative f***ers and against my general policy in life, I think very very dark thoughts at them on a regular basis.

[JoB]

beachdrivegirl..

100% of women who give their babies up for adoption show emotional distress afterward.

i don’t know what the suicide rates or because noone has tracked it that i am aware of…

****

there is such a need for adopted children to find their birth mothers that there is a huge business built around tracking them down… and now.. a reality show:(

adoption isn’t the huge hug fest that outsiders think it is… birth families, adopted kids, and adopted families.

****

If you provide adequate services for unmarried mothers and their children, they have more options to choose not to abort than if you don’t.

right now we don’t.

[celeste17]

If we do the 12th count me in. The 5th is my brothers birthday.

[FullTilt]

“If we’re going to hell, I call the window seat!”

I call shotgun.

[LBG]

If it’s a medical procedure and not a life, what’s to feel bad about? When you have a kidney removed, do you feel bad? If an ovarian cyst is taken out, are you emotionally distraught and wonder what could have been with that cyst?

Why is the emotion there if you are not ending life or, the more sterile, “terminating a pregnancy”…

Why is this a left or right thing or a religious or non-religious thing? I think it boils down to when you believe life begins and if that life is then given rights under the constitution…

as an aside…less than 1% of people have abortions due to rape an incest.

[JenV]

BDG: “but they are making an emotional decision when they are emotionally unbalanced.”

how dare you presume to know someone’s emotional state at that time? what a huge generalization.

[Irukandji]

Thank you for your report cjb. It sure makes a difference to me. I don’t go into Freshy’s up near Admiral on California because of the number of smokers that hang out just outside. I’ve skipped Charleston Cafe because it seems whenever I see the waitresses around town in their uniforms they are nearly always smoking and I wouldn’t want that odor with my lunch.

Kudos to Bakery Nouveau, whose workers will close doors and ask people to move along if they’ve stopped for a smoke in front of the shop.

I empathize with smokers: I was lucky to have quit decades ago and watch my parents struggle with their addiction. Please, though, take ’em where we don’t have to share. Keep ’em in your car, in your home, in well ventilated areas where the smoke and ash don’t come my way. Thanks!

[villagegreen]

Had she smoked a whole pack in the store? I can’t believe one cigarette would justify the ‘Las Vegas Casino’ comparison. Once the smoking ban went into effect I think people have become really sensitive to smoke (I know I have). It didn’t used to really bother me at all. Now just a hint of smoke and I’m looking around for the culprit.

I’d cut someone some slack for one cigarette, though. Maybe she was just having a really bad day.

[Cait]

I suppose the last paragraph was not directed at anyone for an answer – just trying to shed some light on why those statistics would be the way that they are. I hate to say it because they seem irrelevant to me – how would any one be able to answer those questions in a black and white fashion?

[soclwrkrinmotn]

Here’s something I wonder: there are waitlists for adoptions…yes, NR, this is true.

In this case, that is:

IF you are a white, healthy, no exposure to alcohol or substances, and no special needs. yes, for those babies, there is a wait list.

Do you have any idea how many kids languish in the foster care system? No one wants to adopt those children, and people don’t want to hear about them, unless it is to donate their old clothes.

I am also pro-choice, and I don’t presume to to tell any body what to do with their body. But that is not the point of this post.

But I will have more than a little to say when someone dares to say that “American citizens that want, more than anything, to raise children have to wait years for a child to become available. This is part of why so many American’s adopt from other countries.”

No. Part of it is racism–people would rather adopt from China or Ethiopia (and this makes NO sense to me) than to adopt an African American child born here in the US.

Part of it is the fear of birth parents. People have a fear of birth parents coming back, sadly enough.

And lack of sex education with our teenagers IS AN ISSUE!!!

Here’s an excerpt from a report from the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute:

African American children who come into contact with the child welfare system are disproportionately represented in foster care, and are less likely than children of other racial and ethnic groups to move to permanency in a timely way. These children account for 15 percent of the U.S. child population but, in FY2006, they represented 32 percent of the 510,000 children in foster care. Black children, as well as Native American children, also have lower rates of adoption than those of other races and ethnicities (U.S. DHHS, 2008a; U.S. GAO, 2007).

In Washington State, it is even more obvious.

http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/ca/pubs/disproportion.asp

I am not trying to be mean, or belittle the argument, but when it comes to children without permanent homes, and citizens at large saying that there are plenty of homes for children…I get pretty angry. I wish it were true.

[beachdrivegirl]

I suppose that is true about those included in the statistics.

Villagegreen but they are making an emotional decision when they are emottionally unbalanced.

[Cait]

I did, but what I’m saying is that those people are included in your statistics. I think that they would be much different if we delved into who we were asking there. How people feel about them personally is interesting to look into but I really think that you can’t rely on those statistics – what are people supposed to say that they felt great about it and would do it again?

[villagegreen]

The question of why a woman who has an abortion would feel bad even though they fully believe abortion should be every woman’s right is completely ludicrous.

I’m not a woman, but it seems to me that when one becomes pregnant it would automatically bring up a whole slew of emotions. And if you choose to terminate the pregnancy there would probably be a sense of loss. It has nothing to do with ‘killing a life’ – more a sense of lost possibility and questions of what could have been, even though most women who have abortions (IMO) are doing the responsible thing.

[Cait]

Similarly:

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen

like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your

life and that of your family is a personal matter, no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because

‘every family has challenges,’ even as black and latino families are

regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and

arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a

‘f******’ redneck,’ like Bristol Palin’s

boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with

you, you’ll ‘kick their f*****’ ass,’ and

talk about how you like to ‘shoot shit’ for fun, and

still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a

great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different

colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you

basically failed out of, then returned to after making up

some coursework at a community college), and no one

questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement,

whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as

unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in

the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.

White privilege is being able to make fun of community

organizers and the work they do–like, among other things,

fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights,

or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor–and people

think you’re being pithy and tough, but if you merely

question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month

governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she

took in college–you’re somehow being mean, or even

sexist.

White privilege is being able to convince white women who

don’t even agree with you on any substantive issue to

vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a

sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence

in these same white women, and made them give your party a

second look.

White privilege is being able to fire people who didn’t

support your political campaigns and not be accused of

abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages

in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some

folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means

you must be corrupt.

White privilege is being able to attend churches over the

years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry

or merely criticize George W.

Bush are going to hell, and

that the U.S.

White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is

when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the

reporter for asking you such a ‘trick question,’

while being black and merely refusing to give one-word

answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re

dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual

and nuanced.

White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a

POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for

president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as

Sarah Palin has referred to it a ‘light’ burden.

And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could

possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted

with George W.

Bush 90 percent of the time, even as

unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes,

inflation is rising, and the U.S.

is increasingly isolated

from world opinion, just because white voters aren’t

sure about that whole ‘change’ thing.

Ya know,

it’s just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four

more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.

[Cait]

PC I think was the term I was searching for – thanks BDG! I agree wholeheartedly. It’s never something I would do myself but I support those who have to make that hard decision for their own reasons that I don’t pretend to know.