Transportation Committee: Snow response; ‘Soundway’ finale

Two items of note from today’s meeting of the Seattle City Council Transportation Committee, chaired by West Seattle resident Councilmember Tom Rasmussen:

SNOW RESPONSE: The committee quizzed the leaders of SDOT and Metro as well as a WSDOT rep about what went wrong during last month’s snow/ice road/transit woes, and what will be done differently next time. Among the toplines:

–SDOT will change its “brine” mix (which is reported to have diluted and frozen, causing some of the icing problems on November 22nd) to magnesium chloride

–The city needs up to six more spreaders for rock salt and sand and is looking into getting them ($25,000 each)

(November 23 photo by Katie Meyer, taken just west of The Junction)
–Why did Metro keep using its articulated buses, which don’t seem to function well in such conditions? Boss Kevin Desmond says if they would have grounded them all, they would have had dramatically reduced capacity to get people around. He says articulated buses were 57% of all stalled/stuck buses that week.

–Why did some West Seattle roads including Admiral Way seem somewhat neglected, particularly the western section (photo above is from midday November 23, courtesy Vanessa Fox)? SDOT’s Peter Hahn admitted, “We were a little slow getting there,” blaming factors including the fact it was Thanksgiving week so a lot of regular drivers were off and some of the fill-ins didn’t know the area so well.

–Why was the online bus tracker turned off? Desmond said “maybe” they should leave it up in future cases, but he reiterated that it would have had no “predictive” capability, and stressed again that within a couple years, Metro buses will all have GPS. And he once again urged all bus riders to sign up for text/e-mail alerts (go here), saying the number of people signed up has doubled since they began a promotional campaign (which includes WSB advertising) in early November – from 11,000 signed up, to 22,000.

SOUNDWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY ‘VACATION’: This has been six years in the making, as Seattle ParksDonald Harris noted when the committee got to this item (with a big community backstory, explained here, also as noted in comments on one of our earliest stories a couple years ago; here’s a media-coverage archive). It involves 33 acres of the West Duwamish Greenbelt near South Seattle Community College that technically is on the books as city right-of-way, even though it was never turned into streets (except for one service road, seen in city photo at left) – or housing, as was discussed before community leaders put up a fight. The acreage known as the “Soundway Property” will be transferred to the Parks Department, and West Seattle-based Nature Consortium will have a major role in overseeing it as part of the city’s largest greenbelt. NC leader Nancy Whitlock was at the committee table for today’s pre-vote discussion, pointing out that her organization has already planted 10,000 native conifers and 13,000 other native plants in the WDG. As noted earlier, a $500,000 state grant, which will help provide for stewardship of the site, is also linked to this. “This has been a long road,” smiled Whitlock just before the committee’s unanimous vote to “vacate” the longstanding right of way. Here’s the ordinance, which won’t be finalized until a vote by the full council next month. Want to get a closer look? It’s usually part of the NC’s monthly eco-hike route, and their next one is scheduled for 1 pm this Friday (e-mail lisa@naturec.org to RSVP).

5 Replies to "Transportation Committee: Snow response; 'Soundway' finale"

  • jay December 15, 2010 (7:01 am)

    I know that Metro has a tricky situation on their hands re. the articulated buses, but the justification they provide above really doesn’t make any sense. Yes, removing them from service would have reduced a lot of capacity…but it could be argued that all those stuck/stalled buses weren’t providing any real capacity anyway. In fact, they were stuck, and causing people behind them to get stuck as well.
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    And regarding the statistic that 57% of the stuck buses were articulated, that’s only meaningful if we know how many buses driving that day were articulated. If 30% of the in-service buses were articulated (I made that number up), that means that they’re twice as likely to get stuck.
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    Having said all that, I don’t know what options are. If they pull all the articulated buses and it doesn’t snow, they’ll be criticized for not having capacity. And I suspect that they have the means to switch out that many buses in a hurry if they wait until snow starts.

  • JB December 15, 2010 (2:19 pm)

    I have to agree with jay regarding the statistics. Show us the numbers! If the articulated buses are doing more harm than good, they should be parked until the situation on the roads warrants their use. It’s a problem that needs to be examined not only in terms of capacity, but also in terms of system wide impacts, such as causing the closure of the lower bridge to West Seattle, when the upper bridge is closed due to ice.

  • lenguamor December 15, 2010 (6:35 pm)

    Get away from articulated buses altogether. More, smaller buses would mean more Drivers and more jobs – hey, double WIN!
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    Also, why isn’t Seattle looking at any European or Asian manufacturers for more coach options? It has always seemed to me that front-wheel-drive coaches would make far more sense than RWD, given as much inclement weather as we get here.

  • MMB December 15, 2010 (7:43 pm)

    That folded-bus picture is just SAD.

  • Gary December 16, 2010 (12:45 am)

    All-wheel drive buses might work well, I don’t think FWD is available or would even help. The articulating buses blocked traffic on I-5 and many major roads, creating hours/miles of backups.

    I say park those lousy things when snow is expected & coming down.

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