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    PDieter
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    Anybody interested in taking up fly fishing should take note of this fantastic (and cheap) fly fishing class put on by a local club

    http://web.me.com/riverwader/blog/NFA_Casting_Class.html

    #660283

    casaboba
    Member

    I am new to West Seattle Fly Fishing and am curious as to where to fish, what type of rod/reel combination, and line/leader/tippet and fly to use. Any insights are appreciated. Thanks!

    #660284

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    casaboba: Not knowing your height, I’d recommend you start with a 6 weight, 8 and a half foot, 3-piece rod. You might want to leave the dry fly fishing to the experts for now so just set yourself up with a floating line. Get a nice, sturdy braided leader that’s not going to break off so easily when you invariably snap your beginner backcasts too hard. The tippet material and flies are going to depend on what kind of water you’re fishing, what you’re fishing for and what insects are hatching at any given time.

    Where I learned to fly fish back in Vermont, there were guides who would take you out to their favorite, secret spots and coach you. This helped a lot as I was getting started and helped me to overlook the discomforts of standing up to my jewels in ice cold water being eaten by black flies. Most of them would tie flies on the spot, based on what was hatching locally at that time. It was great. The best ones would sink a few bottles of Bass ale for you as well.

    After you get into it a bit I’d definitely suggest to try to do something like that to help you get into it.

    #660285

    PDieter
    Participant

    Fly rod depends on quarry and size of fly needed. Line and reel also depend on what kind of fishing you want to do.

    If you literally want to just fish in W.Sea then the rip off the point at Coleman Pool is popular for resident and transitory Salmon and Sean run Cutthroat. the timing of the fishing there dependent upon fish migration and size and time of tides.

    If you are curious about other local/regional fly fishing I encourage you to join us @ http://www.westfly.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=5&page=1

    there are quite a few WS fly fishers on that board

    A 6wt would be the lightest rod possible for this fishing (good for the cuts if you are a skilled caster with it) but an 8wt is far more common for fishing in the salt (I have never in my life heard of a rod length linked to a person’s height…that would imply that only NBA stars could spey cast)

    #660286

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    I’m admittedly only experienced with fresh water fly fishing, mostly for trout, in places like Vermont, Montana, New Zealand and Chile. A 6wt has always served me well.

    I can’t say the idea of standing on dry ground and fly casting into salt water surf has any appeal for me, personally. But I’m sure it would be interesting to catch salmon this way.

    Choosing the right rod absolutely depends on your height. Any good outfitter should take this into consideration when helping you get set up. But it is not as simple as short man short rod, tall man tall rod.

    #660287

    PDieter
    Participant

    Chris,

    I’m not looking for contention here…I’m not that guy.

    But in my 40+ years of fly fishing I’ve never heard anyone link height to fly rod choice. So I went and put it to a group of anglers from all over the country and outside of a learner rod for kid (to reduce weight) nobody seems to see the logic.

    http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/thread?id=847233&postid=10465263#10465263

    I’m thinking somewhere along the line you heard something from a guide and got it slightly confused and now it’s in your head as a fact.

    #660288

    cjboffoli
    Participant

    PDieter: I actually go by Christopher, not Chris.

    While I can’t say that I have 40 years of experience fly fishing, it just seems that you and I were trained differently. When I learned to fly fish in the Northeast (about ten years ago), height (as well as gender, casting ability, etc.) was something that was taken into consideration in choosing a fly rod. I’m not saying it is the only factor, nor the most important. But if you stop and consider the geometry and mechanics involved in fly fishing it might seem a bit more plausible to you.

    I cannot speak to the random opinions of your selected focus group, but I assure you that I am not confused. I don’t know you or your friends, obviously, so I’m going to have more faith in the certified Orvis guides who taught me. But my experience around anglers has also taught me that if you ask 20 different people about fly fishing you get 20 different opinions.

    If you consider that taller people can have longer arms and shorter people vice versa, this can absolutely have a bearing on their casting strokes and the kind of action they would want in a fly rod. For example, a tall man would probably want to seek out a medium or slow action rod to compensate for a longer stroke and increased line speeds.

    In just five minutes of Googling, here are just a few of the links that I found that mention an angler’s height in relation to the length of the fly rod he or she is using:

    http://tiny.cc/E66R4

    http://tiny.cc/IKeME

    http://www.flyrodreviewblog.com/

    I guess you can now say that you’ve been fly fishing for 40 years and you HAVE heard someone link height to fly rod choice. ;-)

    #660289

    PDieter
    Participant

    by all means stick with the Orvis guides.

    ;)

    #660290

    casaboba
    Member

    Thanks everyone for the feedback. PDieter specifically for the advice on fishing in W. Seattle. THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND NEED THE ADVICE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE FISHED HERE SUCCESSFULLY. Can you please be more specific as to the type of line, leader, tippet combination and type of flies to use at “the rip off the point at Coleman Pool (which)is popular for resident and transitory Salmon and Sean run Cutthroat.” Also, any insights into the size and times of tides and fish migration would be most helpful to me. Thanks again everyone!

    #660291

    Moose Jaw
    Member

    Check the regs first before doing anything. It’s currently illegal to target rezzies (Coho) from Lincoln Park (Marine Area 10) until June 1st. You can fish for sea-runs year round but you better have a convincing set up when the game warden inspects your gear and license.

    https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/erules/index.jsp

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