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  • #704170

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    JoB
    Participant

    anonyme..

    science demands scrutiny?

    LOL.. believing that takes real faith.

    i live each day with one of those “mystery” illnesses… a mystery because science hasn’t caught up with it’s cause and likely won’t until the scientist at the CDC who labeled it hysteria in the 80s retires…

    religion isn’t the only place where one encounters dogged literalism to one’s dismay.

    the good news is that there are still scientists who choose to question…

    and believers who do the same.

    as for that female cult thing…

    it’s a joke..

    the only gender god has is that designated by man… who has used it to abuse women.

    still.. every belief system starts with a story

    even atheism.

    Ken..

    i was raised in one of those households myself… and have a son who has made the same choice.

    and yet.. my faith survived…

    now that is true miracle ;-)

    #704166

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    anonyme
    Participant

    One difference between science and theism is that science not only welcomes scrutiny, it demands it. Ascribing to a cult of female deities does not change the fact that political, patriarchal Gods continue to persecute women the world over. Sadly, it would appear that a matriarchal God is just as impotent and apathetic as that other one.

    Man made God in his own image. Or hers.

    #704163

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    Ken
    Participant

    Bible based marriage laws:

    A. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

    B. Marriage shall not impede a man’s right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

    C. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

    D. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

    E. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

    F. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother’s widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

    G. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)

    — Hunter

    #703372

    In reply to: Who should I vote 4?

    redblack
    Participant

    jo, no, it really isn’t funny, but it’s true.

    it’s even less funny when i hear obama talking about how, so far, his administration has “rejected protectionism.”

    wtf?? china protects its trade and currency; so does germany; so does japan. they are *not* going to open their markets to american goods, no matter how much the free-traders whine.

    if we want to get out of the fiscal mess we’re in, we should start filling the coffers by raising some tariffs, raising the cost of foreign goods, and making american goods competitive at home again.

    #704316
    anonyme
    Participant

    dhg, no I didn’t have them in West Seattle, I had them in a Queen Anne apartment. They were mostly in smallish containers (one per container – they are cannibalistic, after all) neatly arranged in bookcases. Most of the 600 were spiderlings, the result of an all-too-successful mating of two curly-hair tarantulas. Eventually I donated my ‘collection’ to a University in the midwest.

    CBoffoli, birds DO eat spiders – a lot of them. I’ve seen birds hovering in front of one of the large orb weavers webs (so misappreciated on this thread) ready to pluck it out like a tasty gumball. Hummingbird nests contain a high quantity of spider silk, and they enjoy spider snacks as well. Some Amazonian tribes roast and eat large tarantulas, using the sizable fangs for toothpicks afterward. However, the greatest predator of spiders is other spiders.

    #704154

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    JustSarah
    Participant

    BigPhil, I have to admit that when you mentioned in your initial post that you moved here from Colorado Springs, I was the slightest bit… curious, we’ll say, about how “Colorado Springy” you are. I have read a lot about how conservative that city is, and yes, how evangelical the population tends to be. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, of course, but I came from a decidedly non-religious background (not atheist, but certainly not devout), so I don’t generally relate well to people with very strong religious convictions.

    #704361
    lizru
    Member

    The Wash. Secretary of State’s office (www.sos.wa.gov) is a great resource for this type of information. Go to the “elections and voting” section, then 2010 Election Voters Guide”. Click under “state measures”, then the particular initiative you’re interested in. One of the areas you can click on is “Fiscal Impact Statement”. This will tell you the estimated impacts and the organization that estimated those impacts. (Whew! Didn’t think this would take this long!). Sam Reed’s office does a terrific job with this type of stuff. Good luck!

    #704153

    In reply to: God is imaginary

    BigPhil
    Participant

    I must say the non-religious glut in Seattle is still throwing me off guard. I just moved here from Colorado Springs, where everyone and their neighbor is a brow-beating evangelist keen to judge you for your sinful behavior. I drove by New Life Church (of male-prostitute-hiring meth-snorting evangelist Ted Haggard’s fame) and another mega-church just to get to work every day! I wouldn’t dare let my own beliefs be exposed, and I had an Atheist pin or t-shirt that I’d only wear if I had two or three friends around. If my employer(s) had known my disbelief, I would have immediately been distrusted, because atheists are clearly shady and will lie and steal (per them).

    If the mega-churches and massive evangelical population wasn’t enough, we also had the conservative Air Force Academy and the headquarters of many evangelical organizations, including Focus on the Family.

    Here, I mention that I don’t buy into the nonsense that is Christianity and Islam and I get looked at like “yea, so?”

    Refreshing doesn’t even do it justice.

    #703894
    maplesyrup
    Participant

    It’s not like you can find a bunch of boutique wines in Safeway right now.

    And in order to be in big chains you have to be able to supply certain quantities to make it worth their while, so small wineries are already out of that equation anyway.

    But 1100 does give smaller wineries the potential to put their wares in a lot more retail outlets. Nor would they be forced to go through any particular distribution system.

    #704108

    In reply to: Initiatives 1100-1105

    DP
    Member

    JoB: Welcome back. (As a matter of fact, we did miss you.)

    I wish I could give you my full agreement as a homecomeing gift, but on this one, I’m afraid I have to go with SarahScoot, who obviously cares about this alot.

    While I don’t think it’s wrong to tax something like alcohol in order to provide health care for people, I do think it puts the state in a difficult position, morally. It’s like: “OK, we’re going to sell you something that could be bad for you. But then we’re going to tax it to offset the cost to society.”

    It’d be like buying OD insurance from your local heroin dealer.

    Kind of.

    I feel the same way about the Lottery. While Lottery revenue is good for the citizens, problem gambling is bad for them. Therefore, while I agree with the state taxing gambling, I don’t agree with the state promoting gambling. I know several people whose lives have been ruined by problem gambling, so every time I see a billboard where my government is promoting the Lottery, it makes me kind of mad . . .

    Fortunately, there’s an easy way out of the quandary as far as liquor is concerned. With private liquor sales, the state can still tax it, and the citizens can get their booze at times and places that are convenient for them.

    Frankly, I don’t see a problem here . . .

    Oh, and one more thing. I’ve noticed that nobody’s talking about the money the state will save by having hundreds of fewer liquor store employees on the rolls and fewer buildings and business operations to look after. Shouldn’t those savings be factored into any equation of how much I-1100 will “cost” the state?

    Seems like.

    #704358
    DP
    Member

    The state can still tax liquor sales, regardless of where those sales occur. Therefore, whether the state loses money from 1100 and/or 1105 in the long run is really up to the state itself.

    Throwing 1098 into the equation makes it too complicated in my opinion. There are Web pages out there that can give you revenue impacts on any of these bills separately, but I don’t think there are any that compare the possible combinations among the three of them.

    #704107

    In reply to: Initiatives 1100-1105

    JustSarah
    Participant

    JoB, I find it difficult to engage in that debate when your premise is faulty. Alcohol consumption does not automatically equate to higher healthcare costs; in fact, moderate drinking is linked to increased longevity and general health compared to teetotalers.

    Sources:

    http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/InTheNews/MedicalReports/Longevity/1088617919.html

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/alcohol/index.html

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100824161432.htm

    http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100519/moderate-drinking-linked-to-better-health

    If you really want people’s taxes to be linked to how much they use health care, it seems maybe we should tax alcohol abstainers more than those of us who enjoy a glass of wine or a beer each evening.

    Incidentally, I think it’s quite dangerous to say that certain people should pay more in taxes simply because they use more healthcare services. I’m sure my cousin would love to hear that she should be paying higher taxes because her 9-year-old son has medullablastoma and the cost of his care over the past seven years is now in the multi-million dollar range.

    For most health conditions/diseases, it is very difficult to determine what is brought on by lifestyle choices and what by genetics or uncontrollable environmental factors.

    #703891
    happy hour
    Participant

    I saw a ch 5 special on winery’s last night after the news Giving discounts to larger retailers. Yes, I believe retailers will go for the bottom line for profits and weed out smaller winery’s for larger profit margins. Yes, it will also affect budget cuts for local programs and schools I’m sure you can look it up on line

    #704308
    Garden_nymph
    Member

    Heck, the fleas have a circus AND a market. What can your spiders do (other than spin beautiful webs and eat bugs that is)?!

    #703369

    In reply to: Who should I vote 4?

    JoB
    Participant

    extending tax cuts for the rich will create jobs..

    it hasn’t yet..

    but it might

    and pigs might fly too

    but i wouldn’t bet on it.

    #704347
    charlabob
    Participant

    thank you! my life, cupcakewise, is complete.

    #702728
    voodoo
    Member

    Finally went in to Circa tonight – for the first time, after having lived on this lovely peninsula for 5 years! It was a full house so we stepped out of our usual comfort zone to sit at the bar.

    Wow! What a great time we had! The stranger next to us (gasp!) was friendly and warm, as was the barkeep and everyone we encountered. Great neighborly vibe. We instantly felt like we belonged.

    And, to the point of this thread – the sweet potato fries. With those offered, I am certain I will never try another side there. Excellent burger, perfectly cooked, nice beer selection.

    My only question is why hadn’t we been there yet? Honestly, partly because we were led by their logo to think it was a chi-chi place. It wasn’t until I saw “Neighborhood Alehouse” in small letters that my curiosity piqued. Thanks for the prod!

    #704227
    Kimberley
    Participant

    Semele – that’s just plain rudeness on the part of those sitting behind you (dumb @*$(*) – my tolerance for rude people lessons as I age.

    Jiggers – thanks for the info, I may need to take my fat arse down to Talarico’s on a non-quiz night to check them out.

    #704226
    Jiggers
    Member

    Talarico’s has the best seats period for my fat a_____! Comfort is a huge plus. I’d be more inclined to stay and spend more if it wasn’t uncomfortable.

    #596497
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    #596496
    spoon
    Member

    Neighbor’s Excursion got hit last night just next to Alki auto repair heading East. From the leftover carnage you can see that a black GMC truck or other full size hit him. Not an expert on automobiles but judging from the plastic its probably no older than mid-ninetys at most. The truck’s grill will be mostly if not completely gone and I’d expect big damage to the front right quarter panel at least. Judging from the fact it hit a 5000 lb Excursion hard enough to smash into the car in front of it there might be a lot more damage as well. Keep your eyes open.

    #704225
    Semele
    Participant

    I like West 5 as well, however, avoid going there for that exact reason. The last time I was there I was bounced around so much by the three people sitting behind me it was insane. I even said something to them, which didn’t make a difference. It really is too bad.

    #704224
    c@lbob
    Member

    Well, I sit at the tables, myself. For me, the yellow seats are only uncomfortable at the bar. I’d prefer it if they had regular bar stools.

    I guess the owners should take note that the novelty of the retro decorations has worn off, replaced with the realization of why they became retro.

    That won’t stop me from placing my body in any of the seats at West 5, of course, My experience has been that there are plenty of others there to fill them.

    #703366

    In reply to: Who should I vote 4?

    c@lbob
    Member

    Far left? Relative to Grover Norquist, Dick Armey, the Koch Brothers, Dick Cheney, Sharron Angle (does that refer to the shape of her head?), Tom Coburn, Mitch McConnell, Doc Hastings, and their ilk — I’m pretty far from wherever they are.

    Relative to politics worldwide, I couldn’t be accused of being leftist.

    DP
    Member

    Dateline: “West Seattle” (South of Alaska)

    Saturday, September 25, 2010

     

    As one would expect, there’s a ton of high-tech audiovisual stuff in the classrooms at the new Chief Sealth.

    Forget flying school buses (that’s so 20th Century!) — now every teacher has a veritable computer magic show at his disposal, in the form of the “SmartBoard.” Using this mother-of-all-gizmos, a teacher can electronically “capture” documents, parts of documents, or even notes that he scribbles on documents, all by tapping his finger on a projection screen. Think of the SmartBoard as an 8 x 5-foot iPad that actually makes your kid smarter, not dumber.

    Note: The phrase you’re most likely to hear from your Sealth student of the future: “No school today, Mom. The Internet’s down.”

     

    Sealth’s new auditorium is now the best in the district.

    With superb acoustics and seating for 1200 grown-ups, it’s like having our own performance hall right here in the ‘hood. Naturally, I’ll be looking for opportunities to see a show there. My preferred seating section? “Free” of course.

     

    Old Chief Sealth H.S. is now Chief Sealth International H.S.

    What’s that mean, exactly? Probably not as much as you think — you won’t be suddenly hearing lots of Swedish spoken at the Target in Westwood Village, for example — but still more than nothing. There will be a strong focus on culture and language programs (with a special resource center devoted to languages) as well as international exchange programs and an “international baccalaureate” degree, whatever that is.

    According to Principal John Boyd, the “international high school” feature was something that Sealth staff really wanted, and is also in keeping with the character of the student body at Sealth, which is now the most ethnically diverse high school in Seattle.

    New district-wide enrollment policies also ensure that a much higher percentage of Chief Sealth’s student body will hail from local neighborhoods than was formerly the case.

    The trade-off for getting an international school (and having what Principal Boyd refers to as a “full-service” school) was that Sealth class sizes will be larger than those of some other Seattle high schools.

     

    The building feels open and airy.

    Many spaces are lit at least partly with “ambient” light (i.e., daylight) so that, in some spots, it feels like being on an open-air campus. Let us hope that all this light and air will have a salutary effect upon those of our young people afflicted with the tragic disorder of hyperkinesia.

    [Hyperkinesia: (n.) A tendency to run around a lot.]

     

    The new plan uses the available space more efficiently.

    For example, the enclosed multipurpose “Galleria” connecting the high school with Denny Middle School is a much smarter use of space than what was there before, which was just a ho-hum breezeway from the main building to some portables. It’s impressive to think that a space that was originally designed for well under a thousand students will now be serving > 1000 high schoolers, PLUS all the Denny Students. And the designers didn’t even have to go high-rise to do it.

     

    The project is efficient in other ways as well.

    Some material from the old building was recycled or preserved during the upgrade. For example, benches from the old auditorium were resurfaced and reused throughout the building, and the original (beautiful) gym floor was simply sanded down and resurfaced, instead of being replaced. Energy efficient materials (like double-paned windows) were used throughout, and I believe the HVAC system is also superefficient.

     

    Although the campus will ultimately serve both high school and middle school students, there will be little mixing between the two species.

    — Or that’s the theory anyway. (We’ll see if it pans out.)

    Sealth students will get where they’re going by one route, Denny students will use another. In cases where an area is shared, each group has its own designated space. Some areas have partitions that can be removed for all-campus activities — another example of efficient design.

     

    “My goat ate my yardwork.”

    Sixty specially trained high-tech goats were contracted to eat the blackberry thickets that formerly infested the slope on the west side of the building. I’m happy to report that the goats finished their meal on time, within budget, and without a single case of indigestion.

    Now if we can just get them to eat a tunnel under the Seattle waterfront.

     

    The Sealth renovation was originally budgeted at $50 million. Due to a precipitous decline in the price of steel, however, all of the extra wishes from the staff “wish list” (things like a deluxe weight training set for the gym) were granted.

    Pretty cool, huh? Sure, fifty mils is a lot. But hey! Deluxe weight training set! — Right? Come on . . . you know you want one.

     

    Was there anything about the new Chief Sealth I didn’t like?

    Yeah. I don’t like the parking lot. But I guess cars gotta hang out somewhere. And if they stay at school, at least they won’t be getting into trouble.

     

     

    So next time you pass by Chief Sealth, take a moment to reflect and feel good about what Seattle schools are doing to safeguard the future.

    And as you think of the sacrifices that were made to clear that west slope of blackberries, always remember:

    . . . No goats, no glory.

     

    Mad props to Principal John Boyd, and to Nels Enquist, Assistant Coach and tour guide par excellence.

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