Thanks to Brady for pointing this out last night via Twitter, and Creighton for sending a photo this afternoon: The Marines are at Jefferson Square, moving into the storefront immediately southeast of Bartell Drugs, next to GNC. We didn’t have time to stop in but it looks like set-up work is being done inside, so the office isn’t open yet.
What are the odds that some pinko group claiming to be “concerned parents” are going to start picketing the Marines. I thank the Marines for their hard and greatly important work that they do each day!
The armed forces aren’t the right choice for everyone, but it was right for me and I’m better off because of it.
I hope the lazy young men living the next block down, that mooch off their mother’s hard work, will visit this office and find someone to kick them in the…right direction.
Wow, Dave… Is that a chip on your shoulder or are you just happy to see me?
being currently unemployed, I am looking to reenter the service, just wish I wasn’t so dang old!!!
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I know we have it as a ‘volunteer’ army for a reason, but sure wish we can get more of younger and out of work citizens to consider the military (many many non combat positions).
You know what Dave? Setting up a storefront is 100% fine with this “pinko”. But ROTC allowed IN Public High Schools to recruit – that’s where I’ve always had the problem.
My son has been in the Marines for a year now and I think that it has been a wonderful opportunity for him. He is learning a skill that he will be able to take to the next level after his enlistment is up. It is not a choice for everyone, but for those young men and women that make that difficult choice, I applaud them.
If people want to send supplies, cards, whatever go to http://www.anysoldier.com I have sent tons of stuff to guys & gals I have never met. A nice way to say thanks for your service. Welcome to W. Seattle, Marines!
At least Susan Hutchison will know where to go to talk to the Marines about her plan to ‘call them out’ to the Howard Hanson Dam…….
I have so much respect for the men and women who serve such a big and important sacrifice. Thank you for your hard work, Hurray for the Marines and a hearty welcome to West Seattle!
As a nonpolitical centrist type, I can see the logic in and generally agree that the few good men should not be recruiting on school grounds, but also, that they should most certainly be free and welcomed to recruit in our public community, and of course military service is not for everyone but hey what is? I am a peaceful guy but also respect men and women putting in service tremendously. Welcome to WSea, USMC, Oorah!
” (many many non combat positions).”
Also there are many many civilian opportunities (both volunteer and employment) with the military, for those who may desire to support but don’t wish to, or cannot, enlist…
“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don’t have that problem.” — Ronald Reagan, President of the United States, 1985
This is a brilliant move. Those who can benefit and for whom it’s the right thing will have an easy path through this new Marine station. My brother is (no one ever was, you always are) a Marine and I was in the Army and both of us are the wiser and more knowledgeable because of that experience. For the USMC, it gives them the chance of being the right choice for a whole peninsula’s worth of talented individuals – young and beyond. It will be a stepping stone for some, an important and maybe first job for others, and a possibility some might not have even thought of. The USMC is a great part of America and America’s history – irrespective of your politics. Welcome, US Marine Corps to West Seattle.
Here’s an idea, if any active duty are ‘lurking’ here, they should take this USMC station and combine it into a joint services station including as many branches as want to maintain a presence, or if not feasible, invite the other branches to WSea as well. I don’t know about you, but, my 2c, if we could get some of these fake solicitors, “juvi delinquents”, wannabe/real gang bangers, etc, to stumble into that station with a hangover and just let Uncle Sam take them in and give them the once over, I can think of at least three immediate “benefits to society” (and WSea in particular), 1: more people putting in service, 2: less fake solicitors, “juvi delinquents”, wannabe/real gang bangers, etc, IN WSEA, 3: might just save somebody from a life of bigger crimes or prison etc. I pulled my duty (years ago now) in the USN ranks, it was one of the toughest and also most personally rewarding things I’ve ever done. Any young juvi delinquent I see roaming around I would grab them and drag them straight to the recruiter. You are most likely doing both the recruiter and the individual (and WSea) a favor!
Hey seven,
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Bet you didn’t know that ALL those charges that were brought against the Marines were DROPPED and those Marines CLEARED OF ANY WRONG DOING.
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Your hero Murtha who maligned them and called the “cold-blooded murderers” was WRONG and to this date hasn’t had the decency to apologize to them.
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I have just one thing to say to you, Murtha and those like both of you…
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I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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Yes that is from “A Few Good Men”
Meh…I’m not a big fan of these strip mall recruiting stations or the recruiting system in general but that really has more to do with the services treat recruiters (at least the Air Force and Army ones I’ve known) than my lack of support for the current military situations overseas.
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Also, this “pinko” here actually had a fun time in Air Force JROTC in high school. There really wasn’t much of any pressure to actually join up, though you did get some perks for having gone through the program if you did. Then again, I was in a big military town in Oklahoma and perhaps they had enough people enlisting that there wasn’t really a need for pressure.
I don’t know why people have a problem with the store front approach, it’s the least intrusive way to recruit. They are in a building, you walk in if you want to. Best thing is for people wanting to enlist is to do all your research ahead of time, recruiters are sales people, they tell you what you want to hear. I know many people who were going to be jet fighter pilots in the Navy… ha, you’re 6’6″ tall, ain’t happening. Just use your head. Serving is a good thing, but it’s important to know what you’re getting into.
You know what Dave? Setting up a storefront is 100% fine with this “pinko”. But ROTC allowed IN Public High Schools to recruit – that’s where I’ve always had the problem.
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So Glena, do you also have a problem with Boeing, Microsoft, GE or ANY other entities recruiting at High Schools?
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Or is just against those that safeguard your freedoms.
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And before ANYONE here asks…
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I DID my time. In fact I did more than my time, 22 years. How many of the mealy mouth “haditha” and “not in my school” pinko types can say that???
“more” than your time? It’s not a prison sentence, you chose to serve, be proud of your choice.
so it’s agreed, marines safeguard our freedoms forever god bless america.. by waging perpetual war in the middle east / southeast asia / wherever’s next
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Think you’re being cute? Or do you normally sarcastically attempt to ridicule the innocent until proven guilty.
And BTW, at least we go after and prosecute alleged killers in our ranks, unlike, say—oh hell, name one terrorist/insurgent—those who murdered innocent civilans, or, better still, who failed to follow the Geneva Conventions by placing the videos of their deaths (aka: Daniel Pearl, the Fallujah contractors, Nick Berg and many of our servicemen) online.
Where’s your pathetic, worm-like righteous, America-hating indignation then.
Mike,
I AM EXTREMLY PROUD OF MY 22 YEARS. IF I COULD, I WOULD JOIN UP AGAIN.
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People like seven, Glenda and Marc live in the CodePink/MoveOn/Acorn world where they truely believe that anything can be solved by talking.
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Tell that to the 3,000 people killed on 9/11,
Daniel Pearl, the sailors killed on the USS Cole, the people killed in the two US Embasies bombed in Africa in 1998, the soldiers killed in the Kobar Towers in 1996, the people killed in the first WTC bombing in 1993…etc.
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I don’t have to wonder what those types would do if given the choice to convert to Islam or die. They probably couldn’t get their prayer rugs fast enough.
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While their “God” sits on his A** thinking what to do in Afganistan, our men are being killed. He truely thinks that he knows more of what’s needed there than the Generals. While he accepts the laurels of drawing down the troops in Iraq on an agreement that was signed and implimented under Bush.
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Remember we DID NOT START THESE “WARS” IN THE M.E., YES THAT INCLUDES IRAQ; WHICH WAS STARTED IN 1990 BY THE IRAQI INVASION OF KUWAIT AND WAS STILL ON GOING IN MARCH OF 2003.
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Yes this something I am passionate about. I had a friend killed on the USS Cole and in the Pentagon.
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So those types of people can KMA!!!
Which do you prefer?
A classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life.
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A government which is ruled by one person, who is wholly set apart from all other members of the state’s
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A government which elects representatives to act on behalf of the people
I am grateful to the armed forces everyday for the brave work that they do. In this time of war and political unrest in the Middle East it is especially important to remind ourselves of how lucky we are to live in this Great Country. We are very lucky to have an all volunteer army/navy/marines/air force/ect. I have to admit, it would rub me the wrong way to think of recruiters in school class rooms or video arcades or outside a football game or something invasive/ high pressure . . . . But, when they have their own store front, they are just like every other business or service. You can choose to go in, or not. Its a free country. Don’t be afraid. You might even want to poke your head in their office and say “thank you.”
Wow, another thread where the right wing brigade makes stuff up to get nasty about and dumps all their repressed anger on people who actually mostly agree with them and heaven help anybody if they don’t cower to the mighty Republican-military-industrial-complex or they will be brow-beaten until they are sufficiently “grateful” for the “freedom they provide” and if you challenge them, they use the Get Out of Jail Free card because They Served.
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Yuck.
I’m just happy people serve in our military, the core reason they do and people should serve is to protect the rights of everyone to choose their religious preference, speak their mind and have an opinion, even if it’s to question the actions of the government. THAT is what makes us a free country, THAT is why the USA was founded, not to persecute people for having a difference of opinion or religious preference.
Hopefully they fired the coldcall guy who threatens to come to your house and kill you if you don’t want to join up..
Interesting that they have seperated recruiting activities from the rest of the military. When I joined, you went to a military recruiting station. Probably just another example of the destruction Gee Whiz and Darth Cheney hath wrought on the military; Marines don’t want to associate with the other three branches.
Hey Mike, I’ll take the oppression-free representative democracy. That’s the constitution I chose to serve and protect when I was in the Army.
Man, there’s a lot of pent up rage and yelling in this thread. I don’t think I saw any posts where someone objected to the actual move-in of the Marines. Defensive much?
Pre-emptive strikes against potential attackers.
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You’re either with me or your opinion is worthless.
Wow, another thread where the right wing brigade makes stuff up to get nasty about and dumps all their repressed anger on people who actually mostly agree with them and heaven help anybody if they don’t cower to the mighty Republican-military-industrial-complex or they will be brow-beaten until they are sufficiently “grateful” for the “freedom they provide” and if you challenge them, they use the Get Out of Jail Free card because They Served.
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Care to show where I made stuff up???
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Maybe you should ask “seven” because he is the one the started all of this with his “haditha” comment.
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As far as the “Republican-military-industrial-complex” goes you can thank LBJ for that.
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Interesting that they have seperated recruiting activities from the rest of the military. When I joined, you went to a military recruiting station. Probably just another example of the destruction Gee Whiz and Darth Cheney hath wrought on the military; Marines don’t want to associate with the other three branches.
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That is nothing new. There were and are separate recruiting offices. There were and are also joint offices.
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As far as your “Gee Wiz” and “Darth Cheney” comment. You need a lesson in the state of the military that was handed to them after BJ Clinton was through with his decimation of it. I served under Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton and Bush. I saw and experienced first hand the decline of the readiness of the US military across the board that occurred from 1992 to 2000, and the rise of it again after 2000.
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BTW – Can ANYONE who is against Recruiters on HS grounds give me a valid, non-discriminant answer as to why they SHOULD NOT be allowed?
“Man, there’s a lot of pent up rage and yelling in this thread. I don’t think I saw any posts where someone objected to the actual move-in of the Marines. Defensive much?”
Yup, starting with the very first post.
Wow, LBJ is awarding Haliburton and other war contractors excedingly lucrative no-bid contracts with all kinds of loopholes for various corrupt and criminal behavior…all from his grave. Who knew?
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Making stuff up = assuming that the dastardly librhuls of West Seattle all hate the military and are ungrateful snots, when no one actually said anything against the military, except expressing the preference that they not recruit in high schools.
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Sorry, I try to stay out of most of this stuff, but these threads are really getting beyond the pale.
Wow, LBJ is awarding Haliburton and other war contractors excedingly lucrative no-bid contracts with all kinds of loopholes for various corrupt and criminal behavior…all from his grave. Who knew?
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You mean the same Hilburton that was used in the 90’s by Clinton with the SAME No-Bid contracts??? And is continued to be used by Obama??? Ever wonder why Presidents and Administrations from both parties have used Hilburton??? I’ll let you in on a BIG secret!!! THEY ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT HAS THE SKILLS/MANPOWER /EQUIPMENT and MOST IMPORTANTLY…THE KNOWLEDGE TO GET THINGS DONE IN A WAR ZONE!!!!
Or do you advocate the military doing that also???
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The refence to LBJ was the fact that he was HEAVILY invested in Bell (and I don’t mean Ma Bell).
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Making stuff up = assuming that the dastardly librhuls of West Seattle all hate the military and are ungrateful snots, when no one actually said anything against the military, except expressing the preference that they not recruit in high schools.
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Really??? I guess seven’s “Haditha” post was based on truth???
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I could see a protest at the station by the more leftest people of WS. Will it happen? Who knows, but there is a VERY real possibility of it happening. BTW…Is the usual anti-war protests still happening in the junction, or did they end after Nov 2008?
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expressing the preference that they not recruit in high schools.
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WHY NOT???? Why can’t the military, like other companies/schools send recruiters to HS???
Do explain how Clinton awarded contracts for wars that hadn’t been started yet. Maybe it was part of how he was chanelling LBJ, that Republican war hawk. Did Rush Limbaugh tell you to blame Clinton and Obama for the war’s corruption and excess? That’s a pretty good spin. Illogical, but great spin.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/04/obama-federal-contracts-n_n_171811.html
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I don’t think it’s that hard to make sure our soldiers get cases of soda for less than $45. But I’m sure Haliburton is Special–they’re friends with Dick Cheney, after all.
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http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new2.cfm?doc_name=inv2#towels
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Haditha, I’m guessing, was a reference to war crimes and/or soldiers behaving dishonorably. Not all soldiers are honorable 100% of the time. None of us is honorable 100% of the time. Only in Right Wing Black/White Thinking World does that translate as bashing all the military.
EWR – an example of “making stuff up”… in response to seven you said “Bet you didn’t know that ALL those charges that were brought against the Marines were DROPPED and those Marines CLEARED OF ANY WRONG DOING.”
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Actually as far as I can tell, Staff Sergeant Wuterich, squad leader at the Haditha killings, is still awaiting court martial on 9 counts of manslaughter. You are right that charges against 6 people were dropped, and one was acquitted.
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I don’t pretend to know what happened at Haditha, but I think it is reasonable to wait until the court proceedings have concluded before making statements about guilt or innocence of the whole group.
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Thanks for the update
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Last I heard the charges of murder were dropped against him. I was unaware that new charges had been filed. The last update I can find is from Nov 2008 that the trial was on hold until a decision was made on a 60 Minutes interview given by Wuterich. The trial was to resume after the decision. That was almost one year ago.
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High military court orders judge to review CBS outtakes
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The saga continues over whether CBS has to turn over to the government footage of an interview with Marine Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich discussing his role in the killing of a group of Iraqi citizens in Haditha, Iraq.
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In a decision issued Monday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces sent the case back to the military judge who had initially quashed the government’s subpoena, holding that the judge should have reviewed the tapes privately before making a decision.
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Wuterich was leading a marine convoy near Haditha in November 2005 that killed 24 Iraqi citizens, including men, women and children as young as 2 years old, in the aftermath of a roadside bomb explosion. Wuterich was subsequently charged by the U.S. government with dereliction of duty and voluntary manslaughter.
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In the course of the criminal investigation into Wuterich, the government sent a subpoena to CBS asking for the entire reel of footage from a 60 Minutes interview that aired last year.
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In a 3-2 decision, the Court focused mainly on procedural issues. While the Court did not reach the question of whether the CBS tape is privileged, it did rule that because the tape might be important to the criminal investigation it should be reviewed privately by the judge before any questions of privilege are resolved.
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“CBS conducted the interview knowing that it involved matters then under investigation. . . . The outtakes contain a majority of Appellant’s discussion of the charged offenses with CBS, and only CBS possesses those outtakes,” wrote Chief Judge Andrew Effron, who authored the majority opinion.
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The court continued: “[The outtakes] constitute a potentially unique source of evidence that is not necessarily duplicated by any other material.”
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CBS had argued that the account Wuterich gave the government was no different than the one he gave during the interview, and thus the outtakes were unnecessary to the investigation.
High military court orders judge to review CBS outtakes
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We will never know what happened there, but i am inclined to NOT pass judgment (unlike “seven” and Murtha). Until a court rules on this he IS INNOCENT.
BTW…
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I wonder why those who oppose the Recruiters going to High Schools haven’t given the reasons why????
We can only hope Code Pink comes to protest this new recruiting station.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-10-2008/marines-in-berkeley
Semper Fi
Joining the Army was among the best decisions that I have made in my life. You grow up quickly, your life gains focus, you become a stronger individual, you have zero healthcare costs for yourself and your family, and you get your college paid for (during and after). Plus, the military is easily the most diverse organization in our society. You cannot surround yourself with like-minded individuals there. I would have a hard time dissuading any young person from joining any branch of the military.
Plus I felt safer in the Army than I do driving on I-5 or walking in West Seattle after dark.
Do explain how Clinton awarded contracts for wars that hadn’t been started yet. Maybe it was part of how he was chanelling LBJ, that Republican war hawk. Did Rush Limbaugh tell you to blame Clinton and Obama for the war’s corruption and excess? That’s a pretty good spin. Illogical, but great spin.
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Clinton awarded those contract for work in Bosnia and Kosovo. Or did you forget about those two places????
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BTW – We ARE STILL there…even after Clinton promised that the troops would be home before Christmas. A period of 13+ Years.
I am not blaming anyone. I am trying to point out that EVERY president has used the no-bid contract. That EVERY President has used Haliburton since that agency was available because of their expertise.
And I have yet to see a reason from those that want to keep out the military from recruiting at schools!!!
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Could it be that if they let their reasons known, the TRUTH of what the REALLY feel about the military will come out and they would be exposed.
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I am left with nothing but to assume that is the case.
Sorry, comment time is over.
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