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February 6, 2021 at 3:54 pm #998665
momosmom.2ParticipantA couple of weeks ago we went to Met Market and noticed a friendly girl (she says hello how are you when you walk by her) sign in hand stating the fact she is a “mom” needing money for food for her children, now again today she was there but I also recall seeing this same girl outside of the Roxbury Safeway about a year and half ago same language on sign… well what do you know we went to the WWV QFC 3 to 4 hours after our Met Mkt. visit this morning and there she was standing by the driveway into their parking lot… makes me wonder if she would put that much time and effort into finding a job she wouldn’t need to panhandle???
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February 6, 2021 at 5:19 pm #998674
birdrescuerParticipantNo need to judge. You don’t know her story. I’m sure she wouldn’t be putting “so much time” into standing outside stores (can’t be much fun, really) if she didn’t think she had to.
February 6, 2021 at 5:46 pm #998675
momosmom.2ParticipantYes I guess “I’m judging” without knowing her full story but for her to have to be doing this for the past 2 years there’s something not right here
February 6, 2021 at 5:50 pm #998676
birdrescuerParticipantNot right could be a physical or mental illness, family responsibilities, inadequate schooling, not enough money to get to any job….. on and on.
February 6, 2021 at 6:54 pm #998682
CarDriverParticipantThere was a woman that stood outside Met Market and Admiral Safeway with her sign saying she needed money for her 3 kids. Haven’t seen her for quite a while. One day watched her leave from Safeway and go get in her fairly new Toyota van. It was clean and looked well cared for. No sign anyone was living in it. My sister lives in Ballard. People are always at the Fred Meyer entrance with their sign’s looking for money. Couple of years ago she told the guy that not only Fred Meyer had signs up that they needed people the post office a block away had help wanted signs up also. His response was to hurl obscenities at her for not giving him money. Jesse Jones from KIRO did a story last year on women downtown with their young kids begging downtown. Followed them on the bus to their high end apartment complex complete with pool. Sad reality is that there ARE scammers out there. The people they’re hurting are the ones that really do need help.
February 7, 2021 at 7:13 am #998703
momosmom..2ParticipantI should not have to explain myself but on this circumstance I will. My wording of somethings not right was meant if there is something mentally, physically not “right” then again the available resources what they may be have let her down. BUT in our eyes there seems to be nothing wrong with her and as Cardriver states…well I’d read it again especially his last line.
February 8, 2021 at 1:25 am #998704
stella1549ParticipantI work in community mental health and several of my clients are or have experienced homelessness. I’ve seen several of my clients holding signs in front of local retailers. Their life stories have layers of struggles including complex PTSD, endless systemic oppressions and inequities, and neglect in many forms. If they are receiving monthly disability checks, they generally have just enough $ to cover rent/utilities each month leaving them with just a few dollars for spending money. I continue to learn from them and have acquired a heightened sensitivity to our community members in need of support.
February 9, 2021 at 5:03 am #998836
GracianoParticipantIf this is the same “girl” we had seen her at the Roxbury Safeway a long time ago and seen the manager boot her away from the entry door. And my niece works at the Fred Meyer in Burien and says this girl stands outside their entries too. Small dark haired with small kids sometimes not.
If “these” people are really in “need” and don’t have enough to get by then yes it is sad but I think the majority of them are just doing this for the tax-free benefits.- This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Graciano.
February 9, 2021 at 10:10 am #998840
birdrescuerParticipantSeveral judgements and assumptions here. A mom with 3 kids…will do whatever is needed. Tax-free? Really. Do you think anyone stands out on street corners in all kinds of weather begging for the fun of it or even for the “tax-free” money? No, they don’t. They do it because they have to.
February 11, 2021 at 4:47 am #998970
GracianoParticipantAnd with so many jobs in the area yes I can see standing at street corners more fulfilling.
@BR and don’t say there are none, I see help wanted/now hiring a lot of place, yeah McD is one of them and who’d want to sling burgers… a job is a job better than standing on that corner.February 11, 2021 at 5:53 am #998971
aaParticipantmomosmon -do you have so much time on your hands that you are keeping track of the travels of someone for the past 1 1/2 years and then criticizing how they are choosing to live their lives? what business is it of yours? if you don’t want to give her money that’s your business. writing about her travels here and making assumptions about how she chooses to spend her days?
I’m curious how you feel about the African American woman who spent years of her life sitting in a chair outside the old PCC and Admiral Safeway. maybe still there for all I know. Is it ok for her to do it?
This is what I know- whenever I chose to hand over money to someone it is none of my business how they chose to spend it. Same here, why judge how this person earns their money?February 11, 2021 at 11:20 am #998994
momosmom…2ParticipantNO I do not have all the time in the world, I’m 65 and have worked and still working for the last 48 plus years of my life. I just find it strange that she can travel store to store to panhandle and yes, I do not know her circumstances.
As for the “African” woman as you pointed out I had never seen her and I do not judge people by their Color/Race as you seem to.
I’m not posting here to get into a dizzy fit with anyone I understand people have their reasons to panhandle it was just my observation that I recall seeing her at numerous businesses that are not close together/walking distance just seems sad that she has no family to help and or the resources.February 11, 2021 at 2:24 pm #999005
melissaParticipantSeriously?? If you don’t want to give her money, don’t give her money, but don’t jump on that Reagan-era “welfare queen” nonsense. Seriously. You don’t, as Stella above says, know her – or anyone’s – situation. People drive up to the foodbank in Lexuses (Lexi?) sometimes. Do I decide they’re somehow not worthy of getting food? Absolutely not. I don’t know their story. They probably purchased the car when they were doing well and aren’t doing well now. And “not doing well” can mean so many different things. You may be able to see that someone’s not doing well, but please remember that there are invisible disabilities, both physical and mental, and that we have an incredibly unequal healthcare system in this country. And they may be out of work because they have to care for others. You don’t know.
All of which is to say, why do you feel the need to pass judgement? If you don’t want to give her money, don’t. Why do you feel the need to advertise your doubts here?
February 11, 2021 at 6:02 pm #999021
momosmom…..2ParticipantHow do you know if I gave her money or not I never mentioned if I did or did not. All I’m saying is I find it strange that she’s still out and about panhandling for at least a good 2 years that I’ve noticed when Seattle has so many places that would help her, especially since she has children. Mary’s Place (I think for one)
And you have no right to think of what my beliefs are to accuse me of being what did you call it “Reagan Era welfare queen” I for one have never had to go that route (public assistance) but do have friends that have and have always helped them when I could.So to end this… you all can think that I’m a negative judging person and that’s your right but I know what I am.
February 11, 2021 at 6:27 pm #999030
momosmom…..2ParticipantThis may be what Cardriver was speaking of…
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February 23, 2021 at 4:47 am #999986
GracianoParticipantThis news video is an eye opener isn’t it? Exploitation of children (your own) and really not in desperate need???
February 24, 2021 at 2:58 pm #1000087
mark47nParticipantA lot of pearl clutching going on here. We’re not talking sending kids into coal mines or having them work with industrial equipment.
No one said life is fair and you’re also bumping up against Romany culture with in some of these cases. Do I support it? No. Is it way up on my list of things to break a sweat about? Still no. There are other problems that need addressing before we start telling parents what they can or cannot do with their children at such an explicit level. The simple solution is to not give money to panhandlers.
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