FOLLOWUP: Opponents of SW Lander ‘people street’ flock to community design event

(WSB photos)

By Torin Record-Sand
Reporting for West Seattle Blog

More than forty people came to small section of SW Lander Street west of California SW last night – between local businesses The Good Society and Seattle Yarn, and neighboring Lafayette Elementary – for an SDOT-convened “community design charrette.”

It offered a preview of what the street might look like in the near future, as the purpose of the gathering was for city officials to get feedback about their plans to close the street to vehicle traffic and turn it into a “People Street” within a year.

SDOT closed the small section of SW Lander for the evening, bringing together city reps and associated consultants and designers with community members to talk in-person about the best way to implement changes, and what they might like to see from the project.

The project is a part of the city’s People Streets and Public Spaces Capital Program, which seeks to transform various streets across the city into miniature public parks. Traffic is blocked off, and the designated area is transformed with various architectural improvements and amenities to encourage community gathering and engagement. This site, on SW Lander, is one of two in West Seattle that are currently part of the program; we’ve previously covered the other proposed project, on 18th Avenue SW, between Delridge Way and Southwest Barton (which also had a recent meeting). The city says its goal is to transform SW Lander into public space offering cleaner air as well as an overall sense of safety and security for students.

The meetings for both sites aimed at a very preliminary stage of the process, akin loosely to ‘brainstorming’ with the community in a more free-form atmosphere. No concrete designs were presented; instead, community members were asked to write sticky notes on poster boards asking for feedback on things such as desired features, and put stickers on stock photo ‘mood boards’ representing which features or visuals they would find the most appealing.

The feedback will be used by the city as an initial step before they begin a more formal design processs. Beyond the feedback process, other light activities were available for attendees as well, such as over-sized street board games and coloring books for kids; refreshments were also available, featuring fruit empanadas from the Salvadorean Bakery in White Center.

Despite the festival atmosphere, the project proposal did not come without controversy. In addition to what was provided by the city, some community members brought some of their own boards and posters to protest the proposed project. One board offered two sign-up lists, asking attendees to pick a side: “Yes, close Lander Street” or “No street closure”. The latter choice had garnered around 10 signatures already by 15 minutes into the gathering, while the former had no signatures at all in the early going.

Another poster stapled to a local telephone pole called for neighbors to attend, framing the project as the city cutting off street access to California Avenue.

Words from attendees who spoke to us did not show much more positivity for the project either. “Well, this whole thing sucks!” said one of the attendees, an Admiral resident. “Congestion here is bad, and getting worse. Where are all the parents going to go to pick up their kids? […] The city is doing too much with too little, and too many people.”

People from local businesses and buildings in the block came to share their opinion too. Paul Cesmat, owner of the nearby Admiral Station apartments, came, also delivering a letter to city representatives from the owner of Financial Designs Insurance (in the same block) in absentia. Both of them expressed that the city’s plan would be negligent at best, actively harmful at worst – making it more difficult for emergency vehicles to access the school and commercial block, and increasing traffic congestion for the school: “In my 49 years here, there has never, ever, been an incident with a kid,” Cesmat said. He also expressed frustration with the city’s communication strategy. “There was no real mail notification to the neighbors; just some stuff stapled on the poles.” he said. “Neighbors had to communicate with each other to encourage turnout.”

According to SDOT, there will be more chances for the community to provide feedback through the design process, though dates are yet to be announced. The formal design process will begin this fall, with finalization of a plan expected next winter (early 2027).

83 Replies to "FOLLOWUP: Opponents of SW Lander 'people street' flock to community design event"

  • ActuallyMike August 13, 2026 (1:53 pm)

    Yeah, but watch and see: SDOT will just ram it through anyway. Their idea of ‘seeking community input’ is just window-dressing when they’ve already decided what THEY want to do.

    • Rankler August 13, 2026 (2:49 pm)

      They won’t just “ram it through”. They’ll listen to the majority that wants this neighborhood improvement, and correctly decide that is more valuable than the minority of naysayers who want the neighborhood to stay stuck in the past. 

      • SlimJim August 14, 2026 (9:31 am)

        Then why did the call their event a “community charade”? Talk about an up-front admission! What? It was a “charette”? Never even heard of that word. Well never mind…. I think charade would’ve been more accurate.

    • HelloMike August 13, 2026 (4:02 pm)

      Good! I can guarantee you a majority of neighbors support this. I didn’t see this advertised anywhere else I’d have definitely shown up. The anti-closure people were also apparently harassing the brewery employees to the point where the brewery had to go on social media about it

      • Kyle August 13, 2026 (8:38 pm)

        Did you actually read the article? Sounds like the majority of folks giving feedback did NOT want the closure.

      • WSS August 15, 2026 (1:52 pm)

        As a frequent pedestrian and advocate for neighborhood safety, I strongly support reasonable efforts to make our streets safer, particularly for children. However, I do not believe closing Lander addresses the actual safety problems we experience every day. NOT because I will be inconvenienced, instead, I am concerned that it will simply divert traffic, parking, and congestion onto 44th Avenue SW and surrounding residential streets.Rather than closing one street, I believe SDOT should focus on addressing speeding, stop signs/red light violations, and illegal parking problems through meaningful enforcement and traffic-calming measures.Any change to our streets should consider the safety and quality of life of the entire neighborhood.

    • k August 13, 2026 (6:15 pm)

      Because they are also getting feedback from those of us who are unable to go to an event in person due to schedule conflicts, but think it’s a really good idea and are excited to see the designs.  That is also community input, and is taken into consideration even if it’s not as loud and showy as the way others give their input.

    • Kyle August 13, 2026 (8:36 pm)

      Highland Park’s lane reduction surveys only had 36% support, so SDOT stopped doing surveys and just had “listening” sessions that couldn’t be quantified. Reporting on those indicated a majority of comments opposed a lane reduction. It didn’t matter. SDOT does not treat all voices equally.

      • MW August 13, 2026 (9:22 pm)

        I talked to the people after the event and they said there will be a survey for residents once they have actual designs. Not everything is a conspiracy

        • Kyle August 13, 2026 (9:52 pm)

          Highland Parkway isn’t a conspiracy, those are the facts. They did not do a real survey for 2 years after their initial design, and just went final anyways.

          • Beef August 14, 2026 (12:01 am)

            Would you like a survey about the design specs for storm drains and fire codes as well? Once best practices exist, for a street as for any other design, it’s not necessary to litigate every little change as if it’s an unheard-of novelty. The minority of car-brained nostalgics who fanatically oppose every proposed improvement should be ignored.

          • Kyle August 14, 2026 (6:55 am)

            Are you really comparing storm drains to the novel idea of “people streets”? Please point me to the “people street” national code.

          • Can we talk about what democracy means August 14, 2026 (10:35 am)

            @beef You can’t actually mean this: “ Would you like a survey about the design specs for storm drains and fire codes as well? Once best practices exist, for a street as for any other design, it’s not necessary to litigate every little change as if it’s an unheard-of novelty.”So explain to me how this attitude reflects a functioning democracy.  How are “best practices” produced, by whom, and where?  I can only assume you are thinking that some problem types really are just engineering, in which case the engineers/experts can choose which type of concrete is the best suited for the project.  I agree, so far as that goes.  But the choice to do or not to do something isn’t the same sort of choice at all.  It isn’t “scientific” and it isn’t one to be delegated to “the experts” in a functioning democracy.   And that input—should we do this at all—is exactly what SDOT and every other city department short circuits every time.  It is precisely anti democratic and bureaucratically authoritarian.    It’s fine to think this project is a good idea.  I probably agree with you! But don’t pretend that it’s some kind of “settled science” about which no community debate can be had.  People who disagree with you aren’t idiots to be dismissed; they are equal members of political community.  

      • ORealE August 14, 2026 (10:00 am)

        36% of respondents to the SDOT survey supported that specific design. There was no option to support doing nothing. This was not a result of 36% for changes and 64% opposed to changes.

  • Scarlett August 13, 2026 (2:25 pm)

    “People Street?” LOL.  Have any of you visited Alki Beach Healthy Street following closure to cars?  It’s a lifeless, dead zone, just like I predicted it would become. It’s much the same I’ve seen in other parts of the city, including the north end where there is virtually NO ONE walking or biking on these Healthy Streets,   You people can’t get out of the way of your own ridiculous ideoogy.    

    • Seth August 13, 2026 (9:13 pm)

      This is just such a bad take because I ride my bike there all the time and it’s way better than it used to be and guess what? The world didn’t come to an end and people can still get around.

    • Beef August 14, 2026 (12:03 am)

      Apparently you haven’t been. I biked there today. It was moderately busy and it was lovely to ride without worrying about car traffic.

    • NWspur August 14, 2026 (7:21 am)

      Actually, I bike and run there all the time, and it’s great.  I know many others who do the same…

    • Rankler August 14, 2026 (8:34 am)

      Apparently you haven’t been as the Alki point people street is a huge success that the community loves. Ignoring the minority of naysayers was right for that project, is right for this new one, and always will be right. 

      • West Seattle resident August 14, 2026 (1:24 pm)

        Alki Point Healthy street is a HUGE success and community builder. People regularly visit with each other on the street. Families ride safely with kids on trikes and training wheels  No more dangerous street car takeovers  The street had an opposition group just like this minority group opposing Lander. Our politicians entertained them enough to slow the project down and ask for a big expensive Sdot review to prove it was working ( which you could see with your own eyes) Please Leaders: Support this and let the opposition know they need to accept this pedestrian street and stop wasting valuable resources dithering over this 

    • MacJ August 14, 2026 (12:04 pm)

      Always plenty of people there when I’ve passed through, looks basically as popular as before.

    • Jort August 14, 2026 (5:32 pm)

      Do we not see the irony, here, of accusing some “other side” of being motivated by some sinister “ideology?” Do we not see that there are some “ideological” issues with car drivers, too?

      • Scarlett August 17, 2026 (8:07 am)

        I look at things to see whether they work as intended and are fair to everyone.  Those who keep pushing this stuff on others tend to be rigid ideologues.   

    • Ly August 14, 2026 (11:10 pm)

      I see people riding their bikes, walking, jogging, walking with their kids and strollers happily without having to worry about roads. One small street closed isn’t the end of the world. Find another way to view the world and be ok with a little bit of change. 

  • Lot August 13, 2026 (2:32 pm)

    There’s a similar block in the University District on 43rd Ave NE (only allowing buses to pass through) and in Eastlake on Franklin Ave E. They’re both very nice, especially the 43rd Ave NE one which has seating and businesses along it. The people protesting this are blowing it way out of proportion.

    • WestieGal August 13, 2026 (2:52 pm)

      West Seattle blowing something out of proportion? Never! 

    • CarDriver August 13, 2026 (4:08 pm)

      Lot. Betting you don’t live in the affected area.

      • Rankler August 14, 2026 (8:35 am)

        I actually do live in the area and find calling it the “affected area” to be biased and disingenuous. It’s the area that will benefit not only those of us who live here but people from the surrounding area. Win win. 

  • Lara August 13, 2026 (2:47 pm)

    I’m SO excited about this project! But I can see how the typical approach the city takes for outreach and design sets us up for suboptimal outcomes, and why neighbors could be really freaked out and mad about this. I’d love to chat with neighbors to get an understanding of specific concerns so we can work with SDOT to address them. I live nearby but not so nearby to understand very specific dynamics of this immediate block. I wonder if neighbors would be interested in chatting with West Seattle Urbanism about the project and nearby issues if we have some of our Wednesday meetups there? I have photos of the sticky note board from the end of the event. Some really interesting juxtaposition of comments. By the end of the event, that YES/NO sign up was nearly even. idk why any supporters would want to give their info to the unknown entity collecting this info though…I wish I had been there when you were!

  • Gemma14 August 13, 2026 (2:54 pm)

    Can you please amend this story to include the tally’s on the informal vote later on in the evening? There were a significant amount of signatures on both sides – although the No’s did definitely out pace the Yes’s by about 2:1. Some of us in the community (myself included) are excited for this change.

    • bill#1 August 13, 2026 (7:11 pm)

      How close do you live to the effected block?

  • Ed August 13, 2026 (3:35 pm)

    I’m not against the idea but should a brewery be on the block where this park will be? 

    • bill August 13, 2026 (8:46 pm)

      Why not? Why can’t we shake off the shadow of Puritanism and teetotalling prohibition?

  • westsea68 August 13, 2026 (3:37 pm)

    Would be nice if SDOT would spend this time fixing and repaving the roads across West Seattle instead.

    • Laura August 13, 2026 (9:50 pm)

      Amen. 

    • Mark M August 14, 2026 (9:01 am)

      How about they start with the infamous turn on the viaduct off the west Seattle bridge. 

      • bill August 14, 2026 (4:22 pm)

        How about drivers respect the weather? Darwin’s Curve seems pretty safe right now.

      • onion August 14, 2026 (5:09 pm)

        This project seems like a solution in search of  a problem. People who rely on the alley need more than one way to enter and exit, so their ability to exit via Lander is essential. Likewise, parents who drop off and pick up kids need that stretch of Lander, and access to California Ave and points east are also extremely important. Otherwise that stretch is lightly used. I have no gripe with Great Society, but they already benefit greatly by claiming former parking spaces for outdoor seating. Do they need squatters rights to the entire block?

  • Tony August 13, 2026 (4:13 pm)

    Why only focus on the opposition? There were just as many of us who support this change at the event providing feedback as well. In fact when I left at 5:45, that Wishing Wall was filled with more positive comments than negative (my 10 year old and I counted). Regardless, as the former Lafayette parent who advocated for the School Street that lit the fuse on this who thing, I’m so glad to see it moving forward.

  • My two cents August 13, 2026 (4:19 pm)

    Like the idea of “people street”, but acknowledge my shortcomings with respect to the detailed pros and cons. Will be interested to see how this develops.

    • Curious George August 14, 2026 (1:35 pm)

      I was unable to find out specifics as I was out of town but ‘presume’ Lander would be closed from the alley going east and not from 44th east? I can see major traffic issues arising from school access: , staff, maintenance, delivery and parents heading East on Lander then turning into the alley with traffic headed N from the alley.  Also all this traffic flowing toward the PCC parking lot and out onto Stevens.  If Lander is closed at 44th and the N end of the alley closed major access, safety issues.  Spock would say this is not logical but the City would say logic, we don’t use no stinking logic…

  • bill August 13, 2026 (4:26 pm)

    Summary: The opponents think “no dead kids so far” is proof the street is safe and blood must be spilled to prove otherwise. Reactive thinking like this is why there are so many unsafe situations on our streets. As a society we value convenience over body counts.

    • bill#1 August 13, 2026 (7:13 pm)

      What “body counts”?

      • bill August 14, 2026 (4:27 pm)

        20th century traffic engineering, which still largely guides street design, requires crashes, injuries, and deaths to prove unsafe conditions and consider changes. Emphasis on consider, not require. Those body counts.

    • Scarlett August 14, 2026 (8:08 am)

      We oppose this sort of obscene framing of the debate.   

      • rankler August 14, 2026 (12:18 pm)

        The insistence that we orient our society around cars despite the way they destroy vibrancy of communities is the actual “obscene framing”

      • Jort August 15, 2026 (2:01 pm)

        Automobile collisions are on pace to surpass firearms at the leading killer of children in America. I think that, actually, is obscene. Sorry if that bothers you. 

  • their lips are moving August 13, 2026 (4:27 pm)

    Yeah the “don’t do this” option is never acceptable for SDOT.  Even if many of the projects are good ideas, it’s undeniable that they are lying when they come asking for “input .”  

  • Tebow August 13, 2026 (4:30 pm)

    It’s going to be great! Glad to see this getting started and hopefully get some more in the Junction area as well. 

  • West Seattle resident August 13, 2026 (4:38 pm)

    These pedestrian streets are important for communities. People gather are create connections that are vital to a healthy neighborhood This is only half a block. Please allow this to happen!  

  • Lafayette Neighbor August 13, 2026 (4:40 pm)

    Because goodness knows a giant playground 50 feet away isn’t enough open space for events and gatherings. 

    • Kathryn August 15, 2026 (9:08 pm)

      I would like parts of the Lafayette playground by the fenced areas be used for staff and parent parking. This, along with an area for buses and parents to pick up/drop off kids. There’s a lot of vacant space on the grounds. Having parking, etc during school hours will reduce the volume of cars parked around the neighborhood throughout the day.  I think the playground has a lot of untapped potential for family community activities. 

  • Mike B August 13, 2026 (5:02 pm)

    I would have liked to show up to voice my support for doing something to improve Lander and make it more interesting, and to encourage more of these kinds of projects in our community. However, one meeting from 4:30p-6:30p on a Wednesday is difficult for me and those who work a job, commute, cook dinner, and put our kids down for bed to attend. How are we supposed to give our two cents and be represented by the media coverage?The best I can do at this point is email SDOT’s generic email address to say “yes, please figure something out that’s nice”.

  • MW August 13, 2026 (5:19 pm)

    Can one of the detractors explain to me how a 0.15mi detour in either direction is problematic for you? Google puts a detour at one minute every which way you go

    • CarDriver August 13, 2026 (6:42 pm)

      MW/Others for. Do you live in the affected area? Or is it since it doesn’t affect you it’s ok?

      • MW August 13, 2026 (9:19 pm)

        I do! Hence I am asking, what’s the big deal. I still haven’t seen anyone say why they can’t detour 650ft. 

        • Alley Resident August 14, 2026 (10:45 am)

          I live in one of the the apartments facing California. Our only access in and out is through the alley – one end is at Lander and the other is into the busy and small PCC parking lot. The PCC entrance is also blocked regularly due to delivery trucks. This project might work if SDOT makes the rest of Lander two-way and removes the parking there to allow regular use to exit and enter the alley for all the residents and commercial traffic. This still puts traffic on part of Lander, but residents and commercial/utility traffic does need to get in and out There have been two large apartments and a few businesses added to that stretch over the last several years and it definitely has increased the traffic on the alley and onto Lander. 

  • Look Both Ways August 13, 2026 (5:41 pm)

    SDOT = spend despite opposed taxpayers

  • SLJ August 13, 2026 (5:44 pm)

    This seems like a good idea to me. It’s one block that is currently one-way. My kids went to Lafayette and this was always a traffic jam. As for parking for parents, between access to the school and driveways, it’s only a few parking spots anyway. For a school with hundreds of kids, losing 5 spots doesn’t really matter. If your kids go to Lafayette, I would think you’d love this idea–it expands the pick up area (in person, not in your car) and would be a pretty transition area.

  • aa August 13, 2026 (5:52 pm)

    I don’t have any concerns about this specific spot, I do take issue with making streets into something they aren’t. I also am not a fan of all the food service businesses encroaching on sidewalks and streets.  It was a great option for businesses during Covid, was the intention that they become permanent? I imagine this is not a popular opinion, I just think they are ugly. Streets are streets, sidewalks are sidewalks, and neither should be used for permanent eating and drinking structures. Signed Scrooge.

    • Rankler August 14, 2026 (8:39 am)

      Streets can be many things. They already “made streets into something they aren’t” when they introduced cars to them in the early 1900s. 

  • better places for a park? August 13, 2026 (6:03 pm)

    If Hiawatha park is already literally across the street, what’s the value of creating another parklet here? I don’t live there so no strong opinion but it seems like the street is actively used for residents and kid pick-ups.

    If they’re looking for more spaces for community parklets, it might be nice to have a little park and seating area in the junction instead of the parking lots that no one uses because they just overcharge and have towing signs. You get food from the restaurants or farmer’s market but then there’s no place to just sit outside. 

    • WS Since 2008 August 13, 2026 (11:20 pm)

      Yes, I agree. Parks, park like areas in the Junction so you can sit outside and eat would be very useful. As you said, they could take up some of the parking lot behind California and around it that are never full.

      • HLC August 15, 2026 (1:38 am)

        I live near the park in the Junction, and I have to push back a little on it as the example of a healthy space. If you saw what actually happens there day to day, you might feel differently. I cringe watching parents let their kids play in that grass or every time the Junction Association has an event there. On a bad day, a city bus is cleaner. Between dog owners letting their pets relieve themselves and people sometimes camping there, “healthy” isn’t the word I’d use.I prefer the healthy streets concept. It creates places for people to gather temporarily, with somewhere to sit or room for businesses to expand their dining. Parks like the one in the Junction look good on paper and seem fine from the outside. But when you watch how people actually use a space that small, with too many people “loving it to death,” what really thrives isn’t community. Have you ever noticed the grass there is rarely green and by the end of summer it’s mostly dead with dirt patches? It has little to do with how much it gets watered. It has more to do what’s actually soaking into the grass.I love green space as much as the next person. But if you’ve walked by the Belltown off leash dog park on a hot summer evening, you know exactly what I mean.  

  • Who asked for this? August 13, 2026 (6:06 pm)

    I am not aware of a great benefit at this location since there is a big open space historic park across the street with lots of recent upgrades. Who decided this project? What is the estimated cost? Is that documented anywhere? 

    • Rankler August 14, 2026 (8:38 am)

      “This neighborhood has one nice thing, how dare they get a second one!!!”

  • Strata August 13, 2026 (7:44 pm)

    Probably should keep the road open for parking but I don’t know what’s worse.. people driving the wrong way on a one way street or the increase in illegal parking that will surely follow road closure. Lots of illegal parking on SW Lander which is dangerous because it decreases line of sight at corners. Ironically parents picking up their children from Lafayette making it dangerous for classmates. Inconveniences at best for through traffic in other areas when people park illegally on Lander further down. Parking enforcement officers are the answer but illegal parking has been happening for a decade + despite pick up and drop off times being known. Not enough PEOs to address the issue, year after year, on Lander and everywhere else.

  • Be Honest August 13, 2026 (9:02 pm)

    Paul Cesmat builds a 50 unit apartment building with retail exponentially increasing traffic and sending all the tenants out of the alley right at Lafayette but didn’t have any concerns about the school or traffic congestion at that time. Now his tenants will have to make a longer trip to get to California so he takes issue with it. That’s totally reasonable. But just be honest and say so. Don’t hide behind other reasons that you completely ignored when you got to make a ton of money off it. Really lame. 

    • WSide August 15, 2026 (10:46 am)

      Ya, and it’s pretty lame that the City of Seattle allowed builders to create the density that affects this proposal.

  • Bubbleator August 13, 2026 (9:14 pm)

    Another day,  another idiotic SDOT (Slowing Down Our Traffic) proposal with a BS “public input” process they have no intent of actually listening to.

  • wS98 August 13, 2026 (9:39 pm)

    I’m supportive of people streets but this one makes no sense to me, it doesn’t seem to meet the criteria. It was completely annoying to encounter the blocked street on Wednesday when I was driving north on 44th and wanted to turn right on Lander so I could go to Safeway. Instead, I had to drive west to 45th, right on 45th, right on Admiral, sit at the light, right on Cali just to get to Safeway. Not blowing anything out of proportion, just stating the facts – it’s an inconvenience on a thoroughfare street. 

  • WS45 August 14, 2026 (7:53 am)

    Thanks WSB for the notification on this proposed project! I live on 45th behind the school and am curious to learn more about this. I will say 45th could use some traffic modifications to mitigate folks using it as a cut thru to avoid California and side streets with round abouts (not referring to school pickup/dropoff). On top of that I count four new large town house development buildings with limited to no parking provided on just the first block of 45th in from admiral. It’s going to be insane for on street parking shortly.  I hope SDOT looks at current pain points at additional congestion, safety, and overall planning of the community. I’m tired of development being prioritized without considering all of those factors. 

  • MacJ August 14, 2026 (12:11 pm)

    Highly support this. I bike through Lander all the time on the way to get groceries/library books, and hang at Good Society a bunch. The section carries barely any traffic at all, and oncoming traffic from Lander west of California is a big impediment to traffic from the much busier side east of California. I’ve seen more than one collision and many near misses involving cars coming from the east side of California. 

  • WSBB August 14, 2026 (1:05 pm)

    There has “never, ever been an incident with a kid” eh?https://www.westsideseattle.com/robinson-papers/2011/03/23/update-2-woman-and-child-injured-admiral-district-accident

    • WSB August 14, 2026 (6:55 pm)

      We covered that crash. Even more interesting than the story and photos was the fact it was followed by a 115-comment discussion about conditions at that intersection.
      https://westseattleblog.com/2011/03/update-woman-child-hit-by-car-in-admiral-district/#comments

    • WSS August 15, 2026 (6:23 pm)

      The real problem is the systemic disregard for basic safety measures. Relying on drivers to obey speed limits, red lights, stop signs, and parking restrictions clearly isn’t enough. We need greater enforcement and meaningful deterrence. Closing off Lander while ignoring the “drag strip” conditions on California and surrounding streets does not make sense.

  • Kathy August 14, 2026 (3:16 pm)

    Cars coming out of Lander east bound to California see a green light and what does it tell them to do? Speed up! This creates dangerous driving behavior right next to a school. I frequently bike westbound on Lander behind Safeway in order to turn left onto California. With cars coming straight at me going eastbound on Lander (who seldom signal) it makes this turn very dangerous for cyclists. Creating a park is a side product of this project. Making this intersection 3 way instead of 4 way will make it safer for students and all people walking and biking.

  • Kathy August 14, 2026 (3:24 pm)

    I would like to address this comment to the active duty servicemember/JBLM commuter with whom I engaged in a debate yesterday about this project: I worked for the US Army for 32 years and I appreciate your service. But just because you are an active duty servicemember, it doesn’t mean a few minutes of convenience in your commute is more important than promoting safety for kids walking and biking to school.

  • Alki Parent August 14, 2026 (10:30 pm)

    I am very much in favor of projects like this. I wish the blog didn’t give so much constant attention to the pro-car folks. 

    • Scarlett August 17, 2026 (8:21 am)

      “Pro-car folks?”  People need cars for a endles list of reasons, and yes, some need cars more than other.  Why?  Because we live in the real world, and some of us aren’t trustafarians and don’t live in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings bucolic shire with Frodo and Sam.   I need a car to commute to clinics that public transportation won’t take me to, even bus transit which I take frequently.  Looking for parking another block away because a street is now a “Healthy Street”  (Phinney Ridge) is troublesome because I have a bum ankle. The trend is to make Seattle unlivable for those who don’t fit a certain socio-economic profile.    The utter adolescent immaturity that I’ve seen in Seattle is beyond stunning; it’s literally a preschool playground for selfish ideologues. 

  • Resident August 17, 2026 (12:36 pm)

    Since many of the comments seem to be about the safety of the school children, including the desire for more community space, the below information was obtained via the internet:The cost of a speed bump, including the necessary warning signs and hardware, is $5000.  The cost of adding the lettering of Do Not Enter on the pavement on Lander, as an extra deterrent from turning off of California Ave SW, ranges from $250-600. This process is called Preformed Thermoplastic Legend, lasting five to eight years.The Lafayette School playground is 2.25 acres, Hiawatha Community Center and playfield is 10.3 acres.  Public schools are in session for 180 days, or 36 to 38 weeks depending on the schedule.During the school year, between 44th and 45th on Stevens, visibility is low and congestion is high as it is a one lane pass due to non-residential parked cars. It is not much better on 44th between Lander and Stevens. Currently, cars exiting the alley behind PCC have to pull out onto Stevens, just to see beyond the parked cars, which is unsettling and causes slow-downs. Will the alleys now become throughfares? At what speed will they be driven on? What is the proposed cost of taking .025 acres of space to create a community space? Who will be in charge of keeping it clean? Will it be safe for people gathering to have bicyclists and skateboards, people on motorized scooters go through? Who, or what establishment, is this really meant to benefit?

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