FOLLOWUP: Bicycle lane? More or less street parking? Why any change at all? Here’s a closer look at West Marginal Way options

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Only one thing’s for sure about southbound West Marginal Way between the bridge and the Duwamish Tribe Longhouse: As it passes under the bridge, it will remain one lane.

Beyond that, a variety of options are on the table for that stretch of the street, as SDOT launches a public-comment period, with a mailer headed to 33,000 local mailboxes this week, and an online “open house” set for February 18th.

We first showed you the options a week ago, after SDOT included West Marginal in a wide-ranging West Seattle Bridge-related update at the WS Transportation Coalition meeting. Then last week, the Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board got a detailed briefing, and today we met with SDOT reps for followup questions so we could take a closer look.

The West Marginal Way point person is Brad Topol, who is also (corrected) on SDOT’s Vision Zero safety-initiative team. He says safety is what’s at the heart of the proposed changes – safety for bicycle riders, safety for pedestrians, safety for drivers. The centerpiece of what they want to do is a two-way protected bicycle lane replacing the southbound outer traffic lane north of Idaho Street – SDOT calls it the “Duwamish Trail Connection,” as riders would cross at the SW Idaho light to connect with the rest of the Duwamish Trail:

(Right now, riders use the sidewalk there.) It should be noted, before reviewing pros and cons, that part of the plan to increase safety on WMW has already been settled and is not up for discussion – the crossing signal near the Longhouse, at the Herrings House Park driveway. The city has funded it, so a “temporary” signal installation goes in this year, and it will be made permanent next year.

This story – and your feedback – is about what will, or won’t, be done to the north. And again, remember we are only talking about the southbound lanes – that earlier proposal to create a freight-only lane on the northbound side was shelved, and no northbound changes are under consideration.

The southbound options are reviewed in this new video produced for SDOT.

Though West Marginal Way has become the leading detour route since last year’s bridge closure, as the main route to the 1st Avenue South Bridge, it is officially prioritized as a freight route.

The city’s Freight Advisory Board, Topol told the bicycle board last week, would like to see southbound WMW restored to two lanes everywhere it can be, including removal of the “drop lane” that was added, along with some onstreet parking, near and alongside the Longhouse in fall 2019.

We asked Topol today if the city has any data about the utilization of that parking. No, he said, while also noting that any data from the past year wouldn’t be relevant to post-pandemic times anyway – the Longhouse hosted many events in the pre-pandemic times and expects to do so again in the future. Its own on-site parking lot is tiny, though that will change, as it’s purchased nearby property to add more offstreet parking. In the meantime, one of the options under consideration would add about 30 more onstreet spaces, in addition to the protected two-way bicycle lane.

Or, another option that would keep the southbound side one lane until south of the Longhouse would extend the proposed 2-way protected bike lane all the way to the Longhouse, though that would involve some redundancy with what the Duwamish Trail offers on the east side of WMW.

So let’s get back to the northernmost section of protected bike lane. Topol says it would run about half a mile and cost about $200,000, and could involve something more than the usual plastic posts to separate it from the motorized-vehicle traffic going by. He says SDOT does not have data on current bicycling in the area, though he cautions that it’s likely lower than it would be with improved safety. SDOT says the outside southbound lane isn’t being used much by motorized vehicles anyway:

The department contends that keeping West Marginal one lane to the Longhouse would add only 10 seconds to the average travel time. The bottlenecks on the route are unchangeable – at the 5-way and at Highland Park Way:

The SDOT reasoning for a consistent one-lane southbound stretch north of the Longhouse also involves sight lines:

The Bicycle Advisory Board supports the “Duwamish Trail Connection” section of bike lane, and indicated last week that it agreed with West Seattle Bike Connections‘ support for the option that would extend street parking north of the Longhouse. The Freight Advisory Board does not support the bike lane, and wants to see the ‘drop lane” dropped too, as expressed in this letter sent to the mayor’s office back in November. An excerpt:

The loss of any travel time on West Marginal Way is problematic. This route is working harder than ever as a West Seattle Bridge detour route and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future.

Only a fraction of the transportation system is explicitly designated for freight. This freight corridor should not be compromised – a position we apply unbiasedly across the City on the long-established freight network.

Adjoining businesses already have great difficulty getting in and out of their businesses. Access for large trucks is a significant issue, especially with heavier detour traffic. Reducing the number of lanes doubles the frequency of vehicles/trucks. This also reduces the number of gaps for safe crossings.

SDOT continues trying to actively survey businesses directly to find out their thoughts on the options. Topol says SDOT believes that the various goals – bicycle safety, freight mobility, overall traffic movement – can all be met via the bicycle-lane plan.

WHAT’S NEXT: If you’re east of California in West Seattle, or in South Park/Georgetown, watch your postal mail for this this week. You can let SDOT know what you think via and/or during the 6 pm February 18th online “open house” – participation info is on this page. If you have a West Marginal Way business and haven’t answered the survey yet, you can do that here. SDOT is also briefing the Maritime Town Hall this week. The department plans to make its decision by April; if it goes ahead with the bicycle lane, that would be built this summer, when the temporary crossing signal goes in.

72 Replies to "FOLLOWUP: Bicycle lane? More or less street parking? Why any change at all? Here's a closer look at West Marginal Way options"

  • Blbl February 8, 2021 (9:47 pm)

    Or, here’s a thought… fix the bridge. 

  • Chels P February 8, 2021 (10:27 pm)

    1- There’s no pedestrians on WMW. Just like there’s no pedestrians on any other heavily trafficked arteries in Seattle (1st Ave S/5/99/East Marginal). Why make space now?
    2- Bikers can use the low bridge. Why do they need a lane on specifically WMW when that space is crucial to vehicular traffic? So frustrating.

    • where February 8, 2021 (10:53 pm)

      Re (2): the low bridge doesn’t get you from south park *to* the bridge.  For that, you need WMW and the missing connection under discussion.

      • BeingPB February 9, 2021 (10:20 am)

        Bicycles already have a path along WMW. It is completely separate from the roadway, providing safety. I travel WMW frequently. I have never seen a bicycle traffic jam on the path, so capacity seems to not be a problem.

        • Don_Brubeck February 9, 2021 (1:14 pm)

          Beingpb, there is no path on the west side where the bike
          lane is proposed. The Duwamish Trail on the west side ends at the crosswalk where
          the proposed bike lane would begin on the east side. North of that are
          railroad tracks up against the road. The tracks are in active use for
          Nucor, the cement plants, and other freight. Capacity is not a problem for cars and truck either, going southbound at this stretch. Speed is the problem, and resulting crashes that close the road for hours at a time.

          • Foop February 9, 2021 (10:33 pm)

            Not to mention the cars that don’t stop at the aforementioned signal, almost killing cyclists daily. People seem to forget what a red light means when it inconveniences them.

    • jay February 8, 2021 (11:05 pm)

      SDOT seeks to gain more political points.

    • Orion February 9, 2021 (2:59 am)

      You don’t see many pedestrians or cyclists because it isn’t designed well for their usage. If you build them, they will come. Anything that helps allow for more alternative transportation, is potentially good for drivers, makes for fewer cars on the road. And dedicated bike lanes keep bikes and cars more out of each others way, safer and more efficient.

      • AMY February 9, 2021 (8:41 am)

        YES! ALL OF THIS!!!

      • BeingPB February 9, 2021 (10:24 am)

        First and foremost it is a freight corridor. And for the next decade or two it is also the main detour for vehicles going in and out of West Seattle. 

        • Orion February 9, 2021 (12:38 pm)

          More people need to consider biking because of traffic issues (and for a list of other reasons), and people who bike for transportation need to be able to get around this city too, you know, whether dedicated car drivers want to accept it or not.

        • Don_Brubeck February 9, 2021 (1:26 pm)

          BeingPB, Agreed. First and foremost it is a freight corridor serving the port and industries. To make it work as a freight corridor and also accomodate all the added detour traffic, it will be helpful to get some of those detouring folks on bikes instead of in cars, to reduce the vehicles congestion at HP Way and the remaining bridges.  Making the bike route safer will increase the number of people willing to use the bike lanes across the bridges instead of the vehicle lanes.

          • Foop February 9, 2021 (10:35 pm)

            I’d also like to see that westbound bike lane that was proposed on Highland Pwy. As a cyclist the hill is daunting indeed, moreso when I have cars nearly clipping me and pushing exhaust in my lungs because we’re all trying to be in the right lane. Ebikes can get up it no problemo. A moderately strong cyclist can truck up it if they aren’t worried about getting creamed by an overly aggressive car.

    • Jh February 9, 2021 (10:02 am)

      2) is a clueless misperception that bicycles only travel north from the bridge.  There is lots of bike use south of the bridge on the Duwamish trail for commuting to South Park, Georgetown,  and Tukwila.

      • Chels P February 9, 2021 (5:32 pm)

        Great so keep doing that 👏🏼 Your efforts are appreciated but not worth taking an entire lane away from vehicles. If bicyclists are as “mobile” as they claim to be they should have no issues using alienate routes!

        • Chels P February 9, 2021 (5:38 pm)


          • Foop February 9, 2021 (10:37 pm)

            It’s actually easier for cars to alter their route. More infrastructure dedicated to them. I’m sure drivers could plan a few extra minutes into their commutes so that they deal with less traffic no? I mean, that’s what you’re asking cyclists to do, bikes that can’t ride on highways, or 509, or 99, or other N /S thruways…

  • M February 8, 2021 (10:52 pm)

    As a cyclist, I don’t see a need for the protected trail.  It isn’t an issue cycling the rode that parallels WMW and then riding the sidewalk for one block, before crossing at the signal.

    • AA February 9, 2021 (7:56 am)

      This is exactly what I do when biking this route. Have never had a problem, very rarely see pedestrians or other cyclists on the 1 block that I’m on the sidewalk. It is really a solution in search of a problem.

    • wscommuter February 9, 2021 (10:53 am)

      Agreed.  As a fellow cyclist, I use the existing trail system with no issue.  It wold be really dumb to impede the vehicle traffic lanes further.  This makes no sense.

      • AJP February 9, 2021 (2:23 pm)

        I would love a protected trail. I hate using the sidewalk, it’s bumpy and I swerve around to get on and off it. 

      • snowskier February 11, 2021 (12:45 pm)

        I agree.  A quick upgrade to the sidewalk (including removal of a few trees and smoothing curb ramps) to breach the gap to the signal crossing would seem a quick, cost effective solution.

    • WS Taxpayer February 9, 2021 (11:45 am)


      • Tim February 9, 2021 (12:23 pm)

        Do we really need to spend money on this now? Is the bridge paid for already?

  • Millie February 8, 2021 (11:07 pm)

    It appears  “Job 1” for SDOT is to see how many streets they can “mess-up”.   If it’s not broken, why not break it?   Public input is, at times, an exercise in futility if the requestor’s (SDOT) decision is already made. 

  • Alki resident February 8, 2021 (11:15 pm)

    Reopen that southbound lane in front of the tribal building. Put the speed limit back up to where it was. Add zero pedestrian plans and trash the freight thought. Never in my life have I seen a pedestrian on the sidewalk except for the employees taking a smoke break outside of their plants. 

    • Kathy February 10, 2021 (7:04 pm)

      Alki Resident, You are on unceded and traditional land of the Coast Salish, including the Duwamish People. You should honor with gratitude the land itself and those who have cared for it, past and present.  You should be committed to better understanding your relationship with this land and to building an authentic relationship with the first people of the Puget Sound. In other words, honor the Duwamish People’s wish for a safer crossing to tribal lands and water, easier access to the Longhouse by all people, walking, biking or driving, and adequate space for buses to bring people of all ages to appreciate their culture and the Longhouse.

  • Sixbuck February 9, 2021 (1:07 am)

    $200,000 for a 1/2 mile bike lane???  Ridiculous!!

    • Orion February 9, 2021 (7:34 am)

      It would cost more to build new roadway for cars, but bet drivers wouldn’t complain. And, if you think this is a lot, wait until your hear how much the high bridge will cost!

      • winniegirl February 9, 2021 (6:01 pm)

        It would cost more AND it would be used more.  There’s a difference.

        • Orion February 9, 2021 (6:21 pm)

          Modernizing roadways to support ALL modes of legal transportation on roads benefits cars and drivers too. It’s not just about having road space, and actually, intelligent changes and reductions can improve traffic flow.

  • Michael Mac Kinnon February 9, 2021 (1:30 am)

    Take the rail tracks out that are just south of the pedestrian on west marginal ,  they have no use ,

    • nwpolitico February 9, 2021 (12:36 pm)

      Removing those defunct train tracks might be one area where everyone commenting on this blog post can agree!

  • GF February 9, 2021 (6:23 am)

    I need to ride on my bike to South Park from North Admiral daily for my work commute. Riding on the sidewalk for the 3 blocks is super dangerous. It is not wide enough for two bikes to pass and there are blind driveways to contend with too! This missing link will make it safer for bike riders. It may even take a few more cars off the road to help freight and general traffic. So please, even if you are not a bike rider, consider accepting this proposal for the safety of people that commute in alternative ways. 

    • JW February 9, 2021 (8:21 am)

      My husband commutes daily on his bike from South Admiral to South Park and agrees with GF completely.  He. Is. One. Less. Car. 

      • jay February 9, 2021 (10:15 am)

        Your husband could take a motorcycle instead and travel faster in the traffic lane already there.

        • Reed February 10, 2021 (6:38 am)

          Some of us enjoy the added benefits of exercise and reducing our carbon footprint that bike commuting offers. I’d much rather spend a little extra time maintaining my superior cardiovascular system than get somewhere faster.

    • Blinkyjoe February 9, 2021 (9:07 am)

      Riding to South Park from the low bridge is super simple and no more dangerous than any other mixed-use route. The stretch of sidewalk is very short, then you cross over to the east side bike lane of WMW, and you are grade-separated (Duwamish Trail) all the way. No need for a new bike lane at all. The Duwamish trail is not the best, but its perfectly OK. 

    • skeeter February 9, 2021 (9:46 am)

      GF understands the problem.  The three blocks of sidewalk is awful and unsafe.  The sidewalk is not nearly wide enough for two bikes to safely pass each other.   This plan is a big improvement that connects West Seattle to South Park and Georgetown and other destinations south and east.  I support it.

      • AJP February 9, 2021 (2:24 pm)

        Agreed with GF and skeeter. 

        • Fp February 9, 2021 (10:42 pm)

          I’ve had to pass an oncoming cyclists before on the sidewalk, it’s very sketch. I have also nearly been hit by an SUV pulling out of the lot right before Dakota. Vehicles have to impede the sidewalk there to even see WMW traffic. Sure, some might argue it’s *okay* but it’s one of my moderately frequent routes and I’ve have probably a dozen near misses this last year. All it takes is one accident.

  • CarDriver February 9, 2021 (6:51 am)

    All this is SDOT’s way of showing they’re doing “something” to make thing’s “better”  For the rest of us that don’t have our heads in the sand we’re left wondering why we’re paying them.

  • Joe Z February 9, 2021 (7:07 am)

    This is a critical piece of missing bike infrastructure. Now if only they would build a protected bike lane all the way to Georgetown! One can dream…

  • AlkiFlyer February 9, 2021 (7:35 am)

    I drove this route daily for many years until Covid brought on an early retirement.  You do occasionally see a bicyclist (once in a blue moon) but rarely if ever see a pedestrian and they’re further south.  Likely workers at the chemical plant or shipping docks walking to catch the bus on Highland? This whole thing sounds like a make-work project for people at an overstaffed SDOT. Someone needs to look at their staffing budget.  And that 25mph speed limit is an absolute joke.  Make some logical safety improvements for the bikes and raise the speed limit back to 35!

  • wendell February 9, 2021 (8:21 am)

    A less expensive option than protected lanes perhaps… how about some mixed use trails replacing existing short-distance buckled and bumpy sidewalks? Just repaved, like the trail across the street – on the river side of the road.

    • Don_Brubeck February 9, 2021 (1:11 pm)

      Wendell, there is no mixed use trail on the west side where the bike lane is proposed. The trail on the west side ends at the crosswalk where the proposed bike lane would begin on the east side. North of that are railroad tracks up against the road. The tracks are in active use for Nucor, the cement plants, and other freight.

  • AL February 9, 2021 (9:38 am)

    SDOT go away!  We do not need a bike lane.  People do drive- As much as Seattle politics would like to stop cars- it is a fact!  They have lowered the speed limit on WMW to a ridiculous speed and have squeezed a lane out- now a bike lane?  Good grief!    FIX the bridge you incompetent idiots.  Don’t put a bike lane.  Nothing against bikes- those lanes have completely taken over Avalon and it is a disaster.  Who ever designed that street must of been sleeping when they designed it.  It is so lame and frankly dangerous.

  • skeeter February 9, 2021 (9:42 am)

    This plan makes perfect sense to me.  An affordable (and needed) connection for bicyclists.  No loss of car and truck capacity since there are already single-lane pinch points on the route.  Decreased chances of aggressive car drivers using the second lane to dangerously pass other car drivers who are driving the speed limit.  Everyone is winning here, folks.  Well done SDOT.

  • BeingPB February 9, 2021 (10:35 am)

    As pertains to street parking for the Longhouse: The tribe has purchased land to develop a parking lot. It is not necessary to take away a traffic lane. If the city wants to help provide parking for the Longhouse donate SDOT project dollars to build their parking lot. 

  • WS2000 February 9, 2021 (10:58 am)

    I think it’s a justifiable concern to keep only one southbound lane from the bridge to the Longhouse.  Many cars will dart over to the right lane and try to pass several cars before the longhouse reduces SB to one lane again. I’ve done this myself, but I 100% agree it would be safer and not really slower if we all stayed in one lane until past the longhouse.  So then the question becomes what to do with that SB lane. A bike lane north of the light would certainly be safer for bicyclists – I’ve ridden that stretch many times and riding the sidewalk does need special attention for oncoming bike traffic.So this solution seems safer for everyone: cars, bikes, and the occasional pedestrian.

  • Julie February 9, 2021 (11:03 am)

    Just fix the damn bridge..   you have done everything to make this commute even  more miserable.  Lowering the speed limit on MW did absolutely no good… thankfully the majority of people are ignoring it… Camera’s on the lower bridge.  Speed traps??   Thanks for that too!   The road bullies are everywhere…cheating and cutting in…   nearly killing people… to the guy in the white Prius who damn near almost killed me and then had the nerve to flash his high beams at me….. how did your windshield like the taste of my Berry La Croix?   The last thing we need is road construction to deal with.Fix. The. Bridge!

    • Orion February 9, 2021 (12:47 pm)

      Wow, that sounds awful, and I’m so glad I can bike commute… fellow cyclists don’t engage in bike rage with one another, mostly smiles. Biking isn’t the easiest but the benefits more than make up for any downsides.

      • reed February 9, 2021 (3:06 pm)

        Agreed Orion. I’ve had countless conversations with other bike commuters over the years. Many of those conversations start by observing an egregious car on car rage incident or paralyzed traffic, followed by a verbal acknowledgement along the lines of “I’m sure glad I can bike and not have to deal with that.”

        • foop February 9, 2021 (10:45 pm)

          Ah yes, sitting at the Chelan intersection being grateful we aren’t stuck in that backup up Admiral with everyone else.

  • Chemist February 9, 2021 (11:22 am)

    So the prior Section 2, Option 3 to remove the drop lane and remove the free on-street parking in front of the longhouse was eliminated as an option since the story from 9 days ago?  That’s my pick.

  • JAG February 9, 2021 (12:27 pm)

    I have been traveling this road 5 days a week since the bridge closed. Never once  have I ever seen a bicycle on that stretch. Only workers out in front milling around. And since when do bicycle users ever use bicycle/walking trails . They are more than happy to hog an entire  lane passing inbetween cars then holding them up. Has anyone been downtown or the waterfront? This project is a joke and a waste of resources and time that we desperately need for dozens of other things. Can we at the very least do a study on how many bicycles use it a day at the very least before we just throw money at a problem that doesn’t exist. Let’s get some basic numbers.

  • They were here first February 9, 2021 (12:53 pm)

    Give the land back to the Duwamish (at least the southbound lane to the Longhouse) and let them decide how they want to develop it.

  • AL February 9, 2021 (1:33 pm)

    Julie!  You are my hero!  I so agree with you and am so glad you did that!  I wanted to do that to someone the other day but didn’t want to lose my coffee.  There are so many A-holes around WS when it comes to driving.

  • Alki Guinea Pig February 9, 2021 (1:50 pm)

    I feel like we are part of a social experiment to see how much misery we can take.  “Let’s shut down the main access to and from West Seattle.”  Not good enough?  “How about we lower the speed limit on W Marginal to walking speed.”  Not miserable enough?  “Hmm…can we take one of the lanes and just close it for a couple hundred feet?”  Some people haven’t sold and moved yet?  “How about, we add a new bike lane right next to the one that’s already there?”  “ooh, yes!  But, only part of the way.  We’ll let them cross, between these bike paths, by adding another stop light!”  Has nobody thought of speed bumps?  How about flashing red lights every hundred feet or so?

    • reed February 9, 2021 (3:11 pm)

      Misery loves company, but here is a pro tip on how you can improve your situation: alter the parameters that make you a subject in this “social experiment” you claim to be a part of. Try making some lifestyle changes that make you less beholden to your automobile and break free of the misery!

      • winniegirl February 9, 2021 (6:09 pm)

        Sometimes that suggestion is just absurd. You don’t know what people’s needs are.  And we all know at this point that biking is an option.  But, not for EVERYONE.  I had a job near the stadiums (bikeable) that they moved to near Woodinville with a 5am start time.  Am I riding a bike?  Absolutely not. People have different circumstances and repeating the same thing over and over won’t change that fact.

        • John February 9, 2021 (6:31 pm)

          Exactly.The assumption is that everyone in West Seattle works downtown.I worked in Kent for 20 years. I could have bussed to light rail. Hopped on another bus and then walked a mile to work. Round trip commute 5 hours a day.Round trip drive 1.5 hours a day. Which one did I choose?🤨

        • Orion February 9, 2021 (7:42 pm)

          And people repeating the same comment of ‘not EVERBODY can bike’ still doesn’t make it true that there aren’t some who don’t who could.

          If bike commuting isn’t an option for you, understandable, but please try and see that not all people have commutes to Woodinville at 5am, and bike commuting is a possibility for some.

          I haven’t heard anyone encouraging absolutely everyone to bike commute. That is an absurd implication.

          • winniegirl February 9, 2021 (11:34 pm)

            Apparently you haven’t been around that long as I see people saying exactly that – often.

          • Orion February 10, 2021 (5:09 am)

            Maybe you’re right, maybe I’m just new here and haven’t seen the comments of bike advocates saying absolutely everyone can and should bike.  I’ll keep an eye out, and would speak up to correct that notion. Obviously there are many who cannot due to an exceptional commute or disability, etc. 

            But, there are many people who could, who don’t, and probably many who think it’s impossible who actually would be capable, and might really enjoy it.

            It’s a misconception that you have to be young and healthy to bike. There are people of many ages, fitness, and health ranges out there biking.

            Ebikes have also made biking more accessible, but please note, I am not saying for ALL people.

            Fyi, most of us encouraging biking are coming from a benevolent place, because its a positive thing in our lives, and we want others to benefit as well.

          • Reed February 10, 2021 (6:51 am)

            Exactly. None of us who frequently advocate for bicycling/running/walking ever say it is all or nothing, but people get offended and take it as such. Reality is a lot of people could make some (minor) changes to reduce traffic, they just choose not to. And I’m not just talking about getting out of west west, but also getting around out island as well. It blows my mind how many able-bodied lean on their cars for everything, including a trip to the grocery store for one item or taking their kid to school, both of which are in reasonable walking distance.More to the specific topic at hand, if I worked on the east side I would live over there. It is a choice to have such a hellish commute, nobody is forcing you.

          • winniegirl February 10, 2021 (2:30 pm)

            I mean.  Even in this thread where you have people saying that they CAN’T use biking as a mode of transportation someone pipes up and says, but whatabout ebikes.  I know the difference between can’t and don’t want to bike.  And, listen.  I’m in my late 40’s and just bought my first car 6 years ago.  I would love to have another transit option.  But, instead. We preoccupy ourselves with a 1/4 mile stretch of road in a low bike volume area.  If it’s really a safety concern, why are we even debating it?  Just do it.  But, if it’s a nice to have, people are allowed to say no it isn’t.

      • Auntie February 9, 2021 (8:48 pm)

        I sure wish all you young and/or healthy or both bicycle enthusiasts would stop acting like we could all just drive our cars over a cliff and live happily ever after. My husband and I are both disabled to some degree and travelling by car is our only option unless we want to try to walk four blocks to get to a bus stop (not feasible), transfer (at a downtown bus stop that is not safe for anyone) and then do the same to get home. And we certainly cannot ride bikes! This is no social experiment – this is our reality.

        • fp February 9, 2021 (10:49 pm)

          There are rideshares to bus stops, and van pool that can get you there. Not knowing your situation but would an motorized bike be possible? Low impact, rad bikes do all the work, and it could be a nice way for you and yours to visit the waterfronts (Alki or downtown) in the summer. I see a lot of folks from all situations cruising past me huffing along Alaskan way. If not, then driving truly sounds like your best option, so it might be in your best interest to encourage more inclusive infrastructure that helps those who CAN bike, or walk to busses, get more cars off the road so your commute can be more pleasant..

          • Auntie February 10, 2021 (6:08 pm)

            I agree that mass transit, biking and other non-car modes of transportation are certainly preferred as far as the environment goes. I just get tired of some people acting like we all need to jump out of our cars because they have done so. I’d say “get off your high horse” to them, but then I’d have to listen to why riding a horse around town is better than driving a car. LOL

    • Kathy February 10, 2021 (9:33 pm)

      Why do so many people who use their cars to get around appear to feel so angry and victimized by others? They are using the most comfortable, convienient and quickest way to get around. They are sheltered from the rain and cold. They don’t have to be exposed to other people’s foibles and germs as they would have to be on a bus. They don’t have to spend long anxious intervals waiting at a stop in the rain and cold to see if a connecting bus will ever show up. Instead they seem to begrudge the slightest improvements for people walking and biking in tiny spaces beside unsafely speeding traffic, getting sprayed by the roostertails from inconsiderate drivers of cars and trucks, riding through huge puddles with hidden puncture risks. There is nothing in this proposed improvement to the trail to harm motorized vehicle drivers and everything to promote the security and comfort of the people not in cars. And yet they complain as if helping someone else is going to harm them.

  • Kyle February 9, 2021 (3:33 pm)

    I’m curious, why do we have the assumption that it must stay one lane south under the West Seattle bridge? Is there not enough room for two lanes?

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