What is it about Westwood area that people don't like?

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  • #700421

    WSeaFam2
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    Your home looks just beautiful! I am sure you will rent it soon :)

    #700422

    JoB
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    Sue…

    i agree about being right on delridge…

    but suspect the rent is in line..

    after all..

    2 beds with attached baths

    which means it is roommate friendly

    and a bath on the main floor

    and a fully fenced yard

    and pet friendly…

    and bus lines outside your door…

    not to mention fairly easy walking distance to Westwood Mall and to White Center shopping …

    i pay more than that for a much older rental a few blocks west of that location.

    it’s hard to know isn’t it…

    #700423

    Sue
    Participant

    JoB, I figure it’s probably not out of line either, but like I said, since I haven’t looked over there recently, so didn’t know if things changed with the economy. One of the reasons mine is probably so cheap is an odd set-up: 1800 sq. feet but only one official (legal) bedroom – a former owner who was disabled took out a wall to make the 2 bedrooms into one huge room. Works for us – a couple with no kids – but makes it less in demand.

    #700424

    kota
    Member

    Well, I’m happy to report that the place has been rented. Called the potential tenants and they verbally agreed. I’m happy to say the least, now the serous rental search in Portland begins!

    I researched the rental prices around here before I decided on the amount, my wife and I decided it was more than fair. 2BR apartments are going for $1200 a month. I realize there are a ton of new construction townhomes around here for rent, but our home is the only new construction single family home in the area for rent.

    Those of you looking for a rental, I will keep you guys posted as it’s not a “done deal” until I have the deposit in hand. Thanks again for all of your insights.

    #700425

    Gina
    Participant

    I warn people to be wary of cheap rents along Delridge near Longfellow Creek, because of the historical flooding. I advise to rent above ground level, and to make sure they are on higher ground. And if they smell damp, avoid it!

    #700426

    WSeaFam2
    Member

    So glad to hear you are close to renting your house :)

    #700427

    TheHouse
    Member

    I had to chime in on this since I live in Westwood.

    First off, I can rattle off approximately a dozen murders and bank robberies that have occurred in the Junction and Admiral areas in the past 7 years that I’ve lived in Westwood. Many more than I’ve ever heard in Westwood (and we have plenty of businesses here).

    Second, in the one of two issues that I’ve come across in the past 7 years they have been related to either homeless people (it was a stalking issue with a neighbors kid) or teenagers. Both of these “classes” are found throughout any major metropolitan area and are simply par for the course in big cities.

    Third, I am within walking distance to QFC, Target, Barnes & Noble, approximately 4 parks (only 1.1 miles from Lincoln Park), a community center, a public library, a fresh fruit stand, a liquor store, one of the best pizza places in WS (Gianonni’s), Eats Cafe, a ferry dock, a YMCA, a Sports Complex, a public High School, Middle and Elementary School, a Post Office, a great little coffee shop (Bird On A Wire) and am still pretty damn close to The Junction.

    Fourth, you could live near me!

    There is nothing wrong with Westwood and it is a great little community! Personally, I think it’s a great little place to call home.

    #700428

    JoB
    Participant

    kota…

    i am glad you have a prospective tenant…

    as much as i love Seattle.. and i do.. the idea of looking for a rental in Portland stirs longing in my soul…

    i miss the easy access to the gorge.. hot springs.. the beach.. the mountains and of course.. the food trucks :)

    happy hunting.

    #700429

    thansen
    Member

    I have lived in WS all my life, grew up in Admiral, lived in Genesee, then near Morgan Junction, and now in Westwood.

    BY FAR Westwood is the best location. No parking hassles, quiet, don’t have to deal with the bridge, close to Lincoln park, etc…

    #700430

    kota
    Member

    Well, I’ve spoke too soon, the prospective tenants backed out this evening. “We regret to tell you that we had been looking at another place…”. Basically, another landlord offered cheaper rent and they backed out on the verbal agreement.

    Back to square one. Sigh.

    Those of you that were interested, I will post a link to the soon-to-be-ad.

    :(

    #700431

    kota
    Member
    #700432

    JoB
    Participant

    kota..

    it’s a renters market out there…

    did you ask if they had signed an agreement with the other landlord yet?

    sometimes it’s about money..

    sometimes there are other ways you can sweeten the deal for them.

    if they are good tenants.. don’t give up the fight until it’s over.

    btw..

    you are still not showing up on housing maps.

    is there something more you need to do on craigslist to show up?

    #700433

    kota
    Member

    JoB, I took your advice and emailed them with a better offer. We decided to lower the rent a bit, so here is the new listing.

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/apa/1882386887.html

    House is on Delridge, just before Thistle, has a bus stop in front of the property.

    #700434

    JoB
    Participant

    good luck!

    #700435

    villagegreen
    Member

    This is probably stupid of me to chime in at this late juncture, but I’ll get back to OP’s original question. So, yeah, the first thing that I’d say is your house is in Highland Park, probably not Westwood (although the border is kinda vague). Anyway, when I think of Highland Park, the first thing that comes to mind is the lack of sidewalks on certain streets. I’ve never understood this. Do we live in a real city or some rural outpost? The reason people live in urban areas is for the convenience of nearby businesses/services. Highland Park kinda feels like the city annexed it and then forgot about it. But that’s what you get when you call yourself a progressive city and then don’t have an income tax – the infrustructure suffers.

    Secondly, I like Westwood Village for certain needs. However, I don’t know what it is, but everytime I go there I get a generalized depressed feeling. Even though it’s a ‘village’, it feels so suburban. Being able to walk to Target, Barnes and Noble, and Dress Barn just isn’t something that’s appealing to me. I’d much rather be closer to the shops in White Center. It’s a little seedier, but a lot more interesting.

    Third, south Delridge is a visual travesty. With all the slapped-together condos and townhomes, it really got a raw deal with the developer boom of the recent past. And it’s loud. I purposely avoid the street everytime I’m driving back from White Center after 11pm since there’s a fifty-fifty chance there’ll be some type of police action going on. Call this hyperbole, but that has been my experience (especially on weekends).

    OK – bash away. Call me sheltered or whatever. I can handle it.

    #700436

    JoB
    Participant

    villaggreen..

    i agree with you that i would much rather be in walking distance to white center than to westwood village..

    but although it may be further to white center from the OPs house than from westwood village .. it is certainly an easier walk :)

    #700437

    angelescrest
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    I have to answer villagegreen:

    I absolutely agree w/that feeling of ickiness at Westwood Village. I think the restaurant EATS is the one spot in the whole joint that transcends “suburban mall”. BUT, that lack of sidewalks in Highland Park? I am smitten. After dropping one child off at SSCC summer classes, we meandered around and found Sanislo’s playground and field: an oasis in the city! What a gorgeous site. And the greenbelt (are they canyons?) that back a lot of the area is so beautiful. There is a tiny espresso hut on the Zippy’s lot–a walkable necessity to me.

    As school attendance is now firmly attached to where one lives, I imagine that that can play into the real estate thing, as well.

    #700438

    JoB
    Participant

    LOL..

    when did suburbia become urban blight?

    a mall is nothing more than stores grouped together for convenience…

    not my favorite walking destination

    i would prefer to see traffic moved underground or stores raised to second levels…

    but certainly clean, safe and acceptable.

    You haven’t traveled enough or watched enough travel shows that highlight exceptional dining if you don’t realize that some of the most interesting restaurants are found in strip malls across America.

    This mall also contains the neighborhood post office, a grocery, a drug store, snuggles between one of the most active sports stadiums and rec centers in West Seattle and a public park and is walking distance to a public library.

    Urban blight?

    In this case it is only a personal perception.

    #700439

    angelescrest
    Participant

    Urban blight? I don’t think anyone used that term. Perhaps it’s the large-scale parking lots–and all the traffic and havoc they bring–in the middle of residential areas that give way to MY perception of “ugh”; kind of a downer that chokes out that neighborhoody feeling that I do love.

    And those un-sidewalk streets!

    #700440

    JoB
    Participant

    angelescrest..

    i walk that neighborhood nearly every day with my dogs… and talk with my neighbors as they stop to pass the time while i am working in the front garden…

    there is a real neighborhood here not so far away from that icky mall that isn’t so icky as malls go… not so much havoc either…

    it’s cleaner and safer than the junction.

    #700441

    angelescrest
    Participant

    I repeat: agreed, amazing neighborhood.

    Less beautific, in my opinion, the shopping center, particular spots especially.

    Perhaps a mural could be painted on that huge wall one runs into (visually) from the entrance past the post office off Trenton…some sort of natural continuity from the ball fields to the park on the other side. And, sorry, but it’s a hard parking lot to negotiate w/a child in hand.

    #700442

    miws
    Participant

    For the most part, I actually like the latest incarnation of Westwood, and the looks of the buildings.

    I think a big part of it is that I despised the previous renovation, around ten years earlier. I thought the “improvements” in that one looked cheap, and plastic.

    That big, arch shaped sign that adorned the Barton St. side of the mall between Pay-n-Save/Payless Drugs, and the backside of QFC, was hideous, and probably the cheapest looking part of all. It had those vertical, cylindrical, perforated columns that should have never made it to the architectual drawings, let alone off of them.

    Not only did I not like their appearance, they were dumb in a practical sense as well. They were the perfect invite for those that choose to litter to cram their crap through.

    Then, of course, the grounds maintenance staff is stuck wasting their time, fumbling around, trying to dig the crap out of them, with a broom, or whatever, from the gap between the bottom of the cylinder, and it’s base. I wonder how often they got a talking to for taking too much time to do their rounds because of that wasted time.

    There’s no way the design team should have been surprised that that problem would arise, they just thought it looked cool.

    The only thing that bothered me about seeing that previous version go, is that being done only ten or twelve years earlier, it seemed like an incredible waste of the then new materials. Even if some could be recycled, I’m sure that much went to a landfill.

    All that being said, it does seem to have a bit of a more spread out feel to it, IMHO, which is kind of ironic, since there was talk off and on for many years of slapping a lid over the original main section.

    Mike

    #700443

    JoB
    Participant

    closing the center street and slapping a lid over it would drastically improve the walkability of the mall.. but i am guessing it might cost places like radio shack business.

    #700444

    miws
    Participant

    Yeah, I think it would be much more difficult with the new layout, than with the original.

    Mike

    #700445

    sophistatiki
    Member

    Just checking WSB for rentals when I found this. Im hoping I can find a nice little house for my cousin to rent so he stays in Seattle.

    as far as WESTWOOD….. I’m very happy I landed here. I’ve lived in neighborhoods all over the city before I purchased my fab mid -century modern one block from Westwood Vilage. the location is great. It was even better before all the trees came down on the corner of my block. They provided alot of privacy from the increasing traffic going to the mall. Even though I find OFC obnoxiously over crowded I still like the convienince of being able to walk to all needed services. I can walk to just about everything I need in any direction. Dont see much more crime here than anywhere else. A lot of artists moved down here from the north end because we could afford to buy here, and once artists start moving in and bringing little spots of cool, money moves in and starts tearing down the old and building the new.thus turning the genuinely quirky and interresting into the pre- packaged socially acceptible version of “boutique or artisan” whatever! We’ve got about 5 more years before it gets completely gentrified. I’m glad I dont live in the middle of all the fauxhiemen trappings of the Junction or the smugness of Admiral dist. Westwood still feels like its got enough room to breath but has all of the basics covered. Screw sidewalks! I prefer not having one infront of my house, it keeps nosey people from looking at my garden.

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