TUESDAY MORNING: Support/oppose these two West Seattle additions for the city budget? Time to speak up

Tomorrow morning is the last City Council public hearing on the city budget before councilmembers go into the final stretch of budget revisions for the next two years. As reported here last week, presentation of a “balancing plan” incorporating some of the council’s proposed changes was delayed a week after new revenue numbers came in lower than hoped. But tomorrow morning’s public hearing is still on, and now you can show support for, or opposition to, spending proposals before the “balancing plan” is finished. Here are West Seattle-specific amendments that have been proposed by City Councilmember Lisa Herbold:

FAUNTLEROY BOULEVARD: $15 million over the next two years to revive the Fauntleroy Way Boulevard Project (shelved until light rail’s likely route became clearer). Here’s how the amendment document describes it:

This Council Budget Action would add $7.5 million Transportation Fund in 2023 and $7.5 million Transportation Fund in 2024 (one-time) in the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) for the Fauntleroy Way SW Boulevard (MC-TR-C046) CIP project. This project was previously funded by the 2015 Move Seattle Levy. SDOT placed the project on hold in 2018 while the corridor was under consideration by Sound Transit for the West Seattle Link light rail extension. The Sound Transit Board has selected a tunnel to West Seattle [Junction] as the preferred alternative, which would no longer conflict with the Fauntleroy Way SW Boulevard project. The Fauntleroy Way SW Boulevard project completed final design in 2017 …

This project transforms Fauntleroy Way SW into a boulevard. The project elements include: a planted median, signature lighting fixtures, a protected bicycle facility, a pedestrian zone with sidewalks and planting areas including street trees, pedestrian lighting, potential stormwater infrastructure and art, as well as safety improvements for crossing movements for all modes. These safety improvements include bicycle and pedestrian crossings, signals, reconfigured intersections and bulbs, and pavement improvements

That’s part of a tall stack of transportation-related amendment proposals you can see here.

This one, we’ve mentioned before:

(WSB photo: Ladder 13 at a West Seattle fire response in July)

KEEPING LADDER 13 AND MEDIC 26: This would add about $6 million over the next two years to keep the Seattle Fire resources that were originally added to this area because of the bridge closure – Ladder 13 (now at Station 37 in Sunrise Heights) and Medic 26 (now at Station 26 in South Park). Previously our area had only one ladder truck and one medic unit, both based at Station 32 in The Junction. Here’s the explanation from the amendment document:

This Council Budget Action would add $439,000 GF in 2023 and $1.2 million GF in 2024 (one-time) to the Seattle Fire Department (SFD) to support the permanent operation of resources that were implemented temporarily during the closure of the West Seattle Bridge. These resources are a ladder truck at Fire Station 37 and a medic unit at Fire Station 26. To meet the temporary need, SFD kept in service vehicles that were past their replacement age, but the department would need to purchase new vehicles if the need for them were permanent. One-time funding would support (1) the maintenance\ costs of a ladder truck until its anticipated replacement in late 2025 and (2) the maintenance costs of a medic unit until its anticipated replacement in late 2024. One-time funding would also support the training of eight SFD firefighters as paramedics to staff the new medic unit.

In addition, this Council Budget Action would add $4.3 million GF in 2023 (ongoing) to support the staffing costs associated with both resources. The Council Budget Action would increase SFD’s minimum daily staffing level from 216 to 222, but no funding is added to train new SFD recruits because current SFD firefighters would staff the new ladder truck and medic shifts on an overtime basis. Ongoing funding is also added, beginning in late 2023, to support the pro-rated lease costs for the new medic unit. On an annual basis, these costs are $72,000 per year. There would be a 2025 one-time cost of $2 million, for a new ladder truck, associated with this Council Budget Action, and at the time of that vehicle’s delivery SFD would begin incurring a pro-rated annual lease cost of $164,000 per year. These costs would be included in the 2025 Proposed Budget.

The amendment document goes on to say that the two added units make a difference in response times:

SFD data suggest that removing the medic unit at Fire Station 26 would triple the department’s response time to Advanced Life Support calls in the area of the station, such that SFD response would be well outside the NFPA response standard. SFD data also suggest that removing the ladder truck at Fire Station 27 would double the department’s current response time to fire calls in the south part of West Seattle, although it would remain within the NFPA response standard.

You can read the full amendment in this document.

HOW TO SPEAK OUT AT TUESDAY HEARING, OR OTHERWISE: Since tomorrow’s hearing starts at 9:30 am, online registration begins at 7:30 am – it’s explained here. As the agenda explains, you can also speak in person at City Hall. The hearing will go until everyone signed up to speak has had their turn. Or if you’d rather just send email with your thoughts on these or other budget matters, council@seattle.gov is the address. There’ll be one more hearing just before the budget is finalized, but this one is at a pivotal moment.

31 Replies to "TUESDAY MORNING: Support/oppose these two West Seattle additions for the city budget? Time to speak up"

  • James November 8, 2022 (5:37 am)

    I really like this street design! I hope the travel lanes don’t allow for cars to park. It’s increasingly difficult to ascertain traffic when parked cars block the driver’s ability to see.

  • Al King November 8, 2022 (5:57 am)

    DON”T spend one penny on the Fauntleroy project until you’re CERTAIN that Sound Transit will NOT build there! Saying they’ve “selected” the tunnel option is NOT the same as them actually doing construction on one. Don’t have enough faith in government agency’s to actually follow through on what they say they’ll do.  

  • Mark Schletty November 8, 2022 (8:37 am)

    So, we just spent two and a half years not being able to use our bridge and now Herbold wants us to spend the next two plus years not being able to get to our bridge. All for a project that won’t help anyone and will further strangle traffic trying to get into or out of West Seattle. This is another of the ideas pushed by the bike lobby in the Cities MasterBicycle Plan, but bicycles cant use the bridge so this doesn’t get them anyplace. There are already much better ways for bicycles to get to the lower bridge   Also please note that there are no parking lanes at all in the illustration. Another SDOT proposal very detrimental to our local businesses.

    • bill November 8, 2022 (8:58 am)

      Traffic will be self-strangled by all the new residents coming to the triangle area when that inefficiently-used real estate is redeveloped, regardless of council action. The least we can do is upgrade the pedestrian and bicycle facilities in the area to make those transportation modes safer and more attractive and thereby keep a few cars off the roads.

    • Marino November 8, 2022 (10:06 am)

      The “bike lobby” isn’t some corporate lobby, it’s just people who are pro-bikes.  And it has most modern public planning knowledge and research behind it. Local businesses are much better off with dense housing where people can walk to their store.

    • WestSeattleBadTakes November 8, 2022 (10:40 am)

      How much is the car lobby paying you to sell your neighbors out?

    • Jort November 8, 2022 (1:39 pm)

      Ah, yes, the all-powerful and mighty “Bicycle Lobby” that is so effective that cyclists are one of the highest demographics of transportation users who are killed or seriously injured by automobiles AND also, at the same time, get a fraction of a percentage of public funding for safety improvements. Truly this city is beholden to the “Bicycle Lobby,” what with them getting a few pennies for every dollar spent to maintain our cars for streets. And, of course, there’s always a “better place” for bike lanes (read: nowhere, ever, if it slows down even one single car). There is plenty of room on Fauntleroy for bike lanes. 

    • Matt November 8, 2022 (3:16 pm)

      How will this “strangle” traffic when it keeps the same number of lanes dedicated to cars (two in each direction) as the existing road design?On the contrary, improving bike and walking infrastructure is the best way for crowded cities to help drivers, since the only real way to reduce congestion is to get fewer cars on the road by providing viable alternatives.

  • bill November 8, 2022 (9:01 am)

    The letter I sent to the council in support of the Fauntleroy Way project. (Apologies, I don’t know how to get paragraphs in WSB comments.) // Dear Council Members://I have lived two blocks from the project area for 25 years. I am a commuting bicyclist, I bike all over the city, even to a dentist in Northgate. But in 25 years I have rarely biked or walked to the businesses in the project area. On foot or bike, the area is unattractive, noisy, and dangerously car-oriented.//With two light rail stations planned within blocks of the project area, and given the numerous old low-rise buildings on Fauntleroy and nearby in the “triangle” area that make inefficient use of real estate, this area is prime for major high-density residential redevelopment. Consider the four major grocery stores and other businesses nearby and this is potentially a highly desirable walkable neighborhood. But its street infrastructure needs to be fundamentally reoriented for pedestrians and bicyclists if the area is to meet its potential.//Electric bicycles are fundamentally changing bicycle commuting, enabling many people to choose to bike rather than drive. Given better cycle infrastructure, I believe we would see far more people cycling to businesses in the project area, and to the light rail stations. This can only make automobile traffic less bad than it will be otherwise.//When the Fauntleroy Blvd project was delayed years ago, much opposition came from small businesses that feared losing parking or being unable to weather construction disruptions. Many of those businesses are in the old inefficient buildings previously mentioned that are destined for redevelopment. Those businesses are doomed regardless of the council’s decision on this proposal. I ask the council not to be swayed by zombie businesses.//I urge the council to look to the future. Please fund the Fauntleroy Blvd project.

  • BrianD November 8, 2022 (9:14 am)

    From where to where on Fauntleroy?  From the bridge to the Ferry?

  • Jeff November 8, 2022 (9:52 am)

    Whatever it takes to get lightrail here faster I am for

    • WSB November 8, 2022 (9:57 am)

      Just to clarify, the Fauntleroy Boulevard plan has nothing to do with light rail except that it was shelved when there was a possibility light rail might be routed, elevated, right down the middle of that section of Fauntleroy. Since the “preferred alternative” (pending a final Sound Transit board vote next year) is now tunneling instead, Fauntleroy Boulevard is back on the table – pending $.

      Also, for newcomers, this was 10 years in the planning, originally suggested by a community coalition.- TR

  • John November 8, 2022 (10:26 am)

    This project was previously funded by the 2015 Move Seattle Levy. SDOT placed the project on hold in 2018 while the corridor was under consideration by Sound Transit for the West Seattle Link light rail extension. The Sound Transit Board has selected a tunnel to West Seattle as the preferred alternative, which would no longer conflict with the Fauntleroy Way SW Boulevard project. The Fauntleroy Way SW Boulevard project completed final design in 2017.”    http://seattle.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=11359710&GUID=64809F80-728F-464A-BBAF-0C27A084A0C4

    What happened to the previous funding?   If a shovel-ready project is put on ‘hold’, does the funding get spent elsewhere?

    • Don Brubeck November 8, 2022 (1:19 pm)

      John, The un-spent funding in the budget for construction (in 2019?) was diverted to other projects. Cities don’t have “savings accounts” to park money, so annual budgets are spent, one way or another. An exception might be moving some revenue into rainy-day funds.

      The funding for design engineering and outreach was already spent (and paid for by us via our property taxes).  Those are big percentages of total project cost. All that will be wasted if the construction budget is not restored.

  • Don Brubeck November 8, 2022 (10:30 am)

    The Move Seattle Levy includes this project. Community and business groups worked for years to make it responsive to community needs. It is designed, was about to go out to bid, and was fully funded until ST3 decision-making paused it. The Fauntleroy Way SW Project will:
    – Improve mobility for people walking, biking, riding buses, driving cars and trucks on the major route to the West Seattle Bridge and Spokane Street Bridge;
    – Support West Seattle’s fast developing, high density Urban Center;
    – Make a growing area safer for pedestrians, including people with disabilities;
    – Make it safe to ride a bike on the easiest grade, most direct route from downtown to the center of West Seattle, sharing a Major Truck Street and transit route;
    – Create a welcoming gateway to West Seattle after crossing the renewed bridges;
    – Support future ST3 light rail station area development.

    • Jort November 8, 2022 (1:33 pm)

      It is important to note that Jenny “I Love Cars” Durkan also re-allocated the funding for this project, unilaterally, without council approval, which was certainly a surprise to Lisa Herbold.

  • Curt November 8, 2022 (11:49 am)

    Looks great – love the isolated bike lane – something for everyone!

  • snowskier November 8, 2022 (12:23 pm)

    I don’t understand the need to extend bike lanes to 35th in this plan.  Bikes will come and go via Avalon which blends into 36th and Alaska for the current flat, quiet street route into the junction.  Why restrain the major thoroughfare and dead end the bike lanes at a bridge where they can’t ride?  Put in a wider sidewalk with a planting strip to make Fauntleroy more useful to those on foot (the vast majority of people who will access the light rail stations in the future and who will move from that denser housing to local shops and services).  Improve the bike infrastructure on 36th and Alaska to make an overall safer route for cyclists.

    • Jay November 8, 2022 (1:26 pm)

      If you look at the map for this plan, bike paths stop at 36th and only pedestrians have access to 35th. No bike paths OR bike lanes from 36th to 35th, if bikes go this way then they will have to take the traffic lane with cars or ride on the sidewalk.

    • wscommuter November 8, 2022 (2:17 pm)

      Not having closely looked at this, I have to agree with your comment.  I bike this route regularly and use the Avalon to 36th connection both ways.  Extending the bike lanes to 35th on Fauntleroy makes no sense and is arguably more dangerous to cyclists, unless I’m missing something.  

      • Don Brubeck November 8, 2022 (9:48 pm)

        I think you are not noticing that protected bike lanes will be added on Fauntleroy from 36th to Alaska. More direct than taking 36th, and avoids the eastbound left turn from Alaska to 36th.

  • Paul November 8, 2022 (2:33 pm)

    There isn’t a plan for parking? How is that fair and equitable? How am I supposed to stop in the morning on my commute to work outside Seattle and get a cup of coffee at my favorite shop on Fauntleroy if I can’t park near it. I feel so bad for the businesses and employees who have survived a bridge closure and a pandemic only to be put in this situation. I guess I’ll go park in front of someone’s driveway around the corner and inconvenience them too. Seems to be the common belief of the city council.

    • Seth November 8, 2022 (3:44 pm)

      Theres still tons of parking.  Chill.  You shouldnt be parking on that road anyway.  Parking should be behind and out of the way.

    • bill November 8, 2022 (5:06 pm)

      If your favorite coffee shop is the one I am thinking of, it is in an old decrepit building that surely will be torn down as soon as the property owner decides to cash in on the site’s potential. Ditto some other businesses that folks get misty-eyed over. Those business owners and employees should be looking for long-term options instead of magically thinking all will be well if only the city would just leave them alone.

    • KM November 8, 2022 (6:16 pm)

      That parking at the coffee shop is actually using some city ROW—what should be the sidewalk, for parking. It was discussed in the last go-round.  There is also plenty of parking around the corner.

    • Mike Hodges November 9, 2022 (8:38 am)

      Free parking is a terrible use of limited public space. Go store your private property on private property. 

  • ws church cult leader November 8, 2022 (4:15 pm)

    just use the money to improve sidewalk safety and homelessness. 

  • DRW November 9, 2022 (3:09 pm)

    Show of hands for the bike riders that ride on Fauntleroy!

    • bolo November 9, 2022 (4:03 pm)

      Why?

  • AF12 November 9, 2022 (4:39 pm)

    I have the following comments:Get rid of bike lanes as it will creat conflicts with pedestrians when the properties along the “Fauntleroy Boulevard” is developed.  Instead build 16 wide sidewalks with protected awning (weather protection) as this will give the future mixed-use developments room for outdoor seating for restaurants and such.Underground the exiting power poles and additional conduits for the exiting and the future fiber optics and such.

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