Georgetown double-murder suspect was former Camp Second Chance resident, camp operator says

In the years since West Seattle’s only tiny-house encampment, Camp Second Chance, set up on the Myers Way Parcels, it’s been mostly low-drama. This week, though, a mention emerged in court documents for a previous accusation against the man charged in last Sunday’s double murder in Georgetown. LIHI, which has the contract to operate CSC, sent its Community Advisory Committee members – and us – this email about the situation today:

We wanted to inform you of two serious incidents that occurred by the same person who was a previous client of Camp Second Chance. One of these happened at Camp Second Chance and the other at LIHI’s Martin Court Apartments, which provides transitional housing for homeless people in Georgetown.

1) On August 15, John Williams, a client at Camp Second Chance at the time, had assaulted other clients. LIHI called SPD and he was arrested by police for these assaults and permanently exited from the site. We recently learned from a news report last night that in addition to these assaults, on July 18, Mr. Williams allegedly committed an attempted rape of a guest who came to the site with him. Please note that while the media reported this, it has not been confirmed with us by SPD. There were no reports brought to our attention about this incident.

2) On Sunday, Oct. 30, this same person, John Williams, accompanied a resident to her apartment at Martin Court. The police have him in custody as a suspect for allegedly brutally killing this resident and a guest of hers in the apartment. John Williams is not a resident of Martin Court. SPD was able to find and arrest John shortly after the tragic incident. We are fully cooperating with SPD and the investigation is still underway. Grief counseling is being provided for our residents and staff and traumatic leave offered for our building staff.

We are devastated by these terrible incidents and working closely with clients, residents and site staff to support them in the grieving process and recovery from trauma through counseling and other means. We have taken measures to increase safety and staffing.

Unfortunately there has been an increasing number of crimes and violent incidents at our sites, which is being experienced across the region by other non-profit providers, businesses, and neighbors. We are meeting with SPD soon to discuss these incidents and ways we can partner more closely together on addressing violent criminal behavior that impacts our sites, residents, clients, and staff. We are encouraging SPD to more consistently support the safety of our villagers and staff by allowing us to fully enforce our code of conduct and its zero tolerance policy on violence and helping us exit clients in violation who pose a safety risk.

The King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office says that Williams was arrested July 19th in the attempted rape case, and that bail was initially set at $75,000 – half what prosecutors asked for – but that he had to be released three days later because SPD had not sent the documents needed to file charges (and still has not).

Then, after the August 15 arrest mentioned above, he spent eight days in jail, according to online records. Less than two weeks after that, he was arrested September 3rd for assault and weapons charges that were prosecuted by the City Attorney’s Office; he served his sentence and got out last Friday, two days before the Georgetown murders. What we don’t know is whether the August 15th arrest and “exit” was the last time he was at Camp Second Chance; we have followup questions out to LIHI. Williams remains in the King County Jail, held without bail.

Meantime, the next Community Advisory Council meeting for Camp Second Chance is next Tuesday (November 8th), online at 6 pm, and as always, all are welcome – we’ll have connection/call-in information in the daily preview list that day, and in our event-calendar listing as soon as it’s provided.

20 Replies to "Georgetown double-murder suspect was former Camp Second Chance resident, camp operator says"

  • Question Authority November 3, 2022 (8:34 pm)

    What prerequisite measures are in place to vet clearly dangerous individuals from shelter use if they by nature are a proven danger to society from past criminal behavior?

  • Alki resident November 3, 2022 (9:20 pm)

    He stabbed the female victim 100 times. It’s amazing he didn’t do this sooner to someone. One sick individual. 

  • snowskier November 3, 2022 (9:40 pm)

    Thank you to CSC for the timely briefing on the individual to whom you had offered services.  Your actions show a good governance structure focused on the safety of those residents who are working to use your services to bring stability and improvement to their lives.

  • S November 3, 2022 (10:37 pm)

    And what are consequences since SPD  is 100% responsible for the release of this rapist/murderer in July?The King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office says that Williams was arrested July 19th in the attempted rape case, and that bail was initially set at $75,000 – half what prosecutors asked for – but that he had to be released three days later because SPD had not sent the documents needed to file charges (and still has not).

    • MyThruppence November 4, 2022 (4:41 am)

      Maybe SPD could not send those required documents because a witness was wavering. At this point no one knows if there was negligence involved, and I feel it is certainly premature to come to that conclusion.

    • Question Authority November 4, 2022 (8:55 am)

      What if the rape attempt victim has had hid, left town, recanted or is refusing to give evidence and that’s why he was let go.  How about we wait for facts before your SPD blame.

  • Rhonda November 3, 2022 (11:24 pm)

    It’s a shame he didn’t give his murder victims a second chance at life.

  • Pat davis November 3, 2022 (11:26 pm)

    Welcome to the double bind that Seattle is insome Seattle residence figure they don’t need the police at all. Yeah, defund the police until THEY need the police. You can’t have it both ways.also, the prosecuting attorneys office would have known that they needed further SPD documents and could’ve rescheduled the hearing if they were on top of their gameit’s totally obvious that we need to fully fund the police.  They are understaffed and crippled. Thanks to the idiots who think they don’t need them but yet they’re supposed to show up with paperwork …and defend people that said they don’t need or want police?no-win situation. S PD is supposed to risk their life every day while we send them out understaffed and unprotected. Yeah it makes sense. The paperwork didn’t get done. Get real.!  Fully fund the police.!!

    • WSB November 4, 2022 (8:35 am)

      No, the PAO could not have “rescheduled the hearing.” The 72-hour-charge-or-you’re-out rule is the law. They also have noted related to the Georgetown double-murder case – I got the documents via the media list before I knew there was a West Seattle angle – that on the initial documents, SPD did not check the “yes” box under “does law enforcement object to release?” on the form. But OTOH we don’t know why they didn’t send over the documentation for a rush file – they could have been short on evidence.

      • Audifans November 4, 2022 (11:56 am)

        oh gee …WSB’s comment….” that on the initial documents, SPD did not check the “yes” box under “does law enforcement object to release?” on the form”

      • alki_2008 November 4, 2022 (6:58 pm)

        Is this the same form where the “no” box is checked by default?  The same default checkbox that Des Moines’ Police Chief has complained to the prosecutor’s office about. And the same checkbox that the prosecutor’s office uses as a recommendation, not as a mandate. Seems it could be better to have that question without anything checked, so the police have to check something.

        • WSB November 4, 2022 (7:03 pm)

          In my experience having read hundreds of these forms, there are occasions in when they check “yes,” so I don’t know that there’s a “default.”

  • T Rex November 4, 2022 (8:02 am)

    This person also has been arrested 65 times  in California and several times in Washington, the most recent at a Bistro in Pioneer Square where he threaten to kill someone.  as well as here. His bail has  been paid  for by Northwest Community bail fund recently and now they are asking for their money back. And guess what, now they are not commenting.  Big surprise. 

    • WS Res November 4, 2022 (4:36 pm)

      You got some sources for those allegations about NW Community Bail Fund?

      • CarDriver November 4, 2022 (4:50 pm)

        WS Res. Local tv stations that reported on this crime ALL mentioned his being bailed out by NW Community bail fund. These people would NOT respond to them either.  

  • Cranky November 4, 2022 (8:27 am)

    Well, everything about this series of stories with this guy is a mess. A trail of violence. He’s in jail without bail now. ….Good

  • Balderdash November 4, 2022 (8:39 am)

    “Unfortunately there has been an increasing number of crimes and violent incidents at our sites, which is being experienced across the region by other non-profit providers, businesses, and neighbors. ““We are encouraging SPD to more consistently support the safety of our villagers and staff by allowing us to fully enforce our code of conduct and its zero tolerance policy on violence and helping us exit clients in violation who pose a safety risk.”…….Will be interesting to see what happens next.

  • shotinthefoot November 4, 2022 (8:58 am)

    released three days later because SPD had not sent the documents needed to file charges (and still has not).” – wow, way to go, SPD! Really great police work there. Do you think they feel any guilt for these two murders? I’d guess not. 

  • Balderdash November 4, 2022 (11:32 am)

    They may want to rethink what the heck they are doing.A little too late for some
    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089311079/some-people-say-protest-bail-funds-should-be-more-careful-about-whom-they-set-fr

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