Guys holding "No Referendum 74" sign…

[JanS]

ohhh..nooo…sex with another guy? how icky…you super straight guys have a real problem with that, don’t you….but go to girl-on-girl porn? Yeah…that’s perfectly OK with you – a turn on……hypocrites !!!!

so..heaven forbid we make it legit through making marriage OK between same gender couples… :->

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[kootchman]

Yes it does… who do you think pays for expanded benefits? We are near the point, it is coming, when we are going to have to revisit entitlements. I never said I hate gays… that’s the democratic thing… if you don’t get complete agreement it must be hate…. so much for compromise. How do you to legislate thinly veiled disgust.. how ya gonna do that? Fact is, you do have the right to hate… conservatives, liberals, gyas, straights… we have a penal code to regulate how you act on those emotions. I know why it so important. I also know why it is important for others not to support it. Doesn’t make em’ wrong, just means they don’t agree. It takes time. The notion that others hate gays..puts ya in the reverse lane… a FU lane. Sugar dude, not vinegar. Here is a good overview.. an article as I was researching at the request of a neighbor to make the affirmative vote. Note I said affirmative. I don’t make grudging votes. well hell yea Jan… bring out the harem and let em’ get busy. That’s not hypocrisy… that’s us!

Oh damn .. lost the link.

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[JoB]

I am with JanS

WTF!

i am so grateful i slept through this one

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[HMC Rich]

The family is one of the most important issues here. Family, whether it has a mama and a papa or both of either is the stabilizing factor for our society. There will be costs associated with the expansion of marriage. I am fine with that. But there will be unforseen changes. There is with all new laws.

JanS, I am not down personally with two guys kissing but I have a gay uncle and all I want for him is happiness. If two women want to get naked and enjoy each other, I don’t mind. I am not female and generally do not understand women. And as a straight male I might be inclined to be attracted to them, but not to men let alone two of them. So yes, Icky for me personally, but for them, intellectually, I wish them happiness.

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[JoB]

HMCRich

wishing someone happiness has little to do with the intellectual rightness of whether or not you should wish someone happiness…

and everything to do with a heart that doesn’t question whether some people have more right to be happy than others

Your heart produces the “right” answer every time.

It’s your intellect that questions.

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[TanDL]

“who do you think pays for expanded benefits?”

I have an idea that will provide benefits to gay married partners AND save money for SS. Let’s cut out the ss marriage benefit for everyone who isn’t in a gay marriage, to make up for past discrimination. We’ll discriminate against hetrosexual marrieds for awhile and then maybe in 20 or so years we’ll have enough saved to be able to offer it to all married citizens again.

There… problem solved! I’m OK with it. You guys won’t mind will you?

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[kootchman]

The intent was to protect children. The politicians turned it into a cookie jar. You have been discriminating against heterosexual married couples for years.. for far longer than 20 years. Check the income tax marriage penalty. Job one to protect is the family unit, the one that raises children, That is the first national asset to protect. Therein lies the future of our country. I will protect that unit, means tested of course. Do I get those 30 years of marriage “penalty” taxes back before the grand plan. It’s many many thousands of dollars.

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[TanDL]

Talking about SS benefits and nope… you don’t get back anything in the grand plan. The country will be discriminating against you with SS benefits. You know…

dis·crim·i·na·tion

[dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuh n]

1. an act or instance of discriminating.

2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

Currently, if you die your spouse can collect an amount of your ss benefits that you’ve paid in for years. If a gay married spouse dies, the other partner gets nothing, even if both have paid ss taxes for years and years. In my “grand plan” we’ll just turn that discrimination around and since there are far fewer gay marrieds than hetro marrieds, look at all the money ss will save.

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[Spodie]

if you don’t get complete agreement it must be hate…. so much for compromise.

Basic Civil Rights aren’t up for Negotiation. Fighting to keep your fellow Americans as a Second Class Citizens is hateful.

We’ve heard every ‘argument’ your kind are making before…. Back when black men couldn’t marry white women.

History will judge you in the same light as them.

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[JoB]

kootch..

if the federal cookie jar protects the surviving heterosexual individual in a heterosexual couple who choose to legally commit to marriage from losing their combined assets when one of them dies

why shouldn’t it protect the surviving homosexual individual who choose to commit to marriage when one of them dies?

If you want to deny federal survivor-ship rights to committed couples without children,

then you need to deny them to all couples..

not just those you choose to discriminate against.

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