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  • #605983

    hooper1961
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    austerity is just around the corner.

    on a huge positive it will force government to prioritize limited resources to the nth degree and the never ending unemployment checks will finally come to a halt!

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    #780251

    dobro
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    Merry Christmas to you, too.

    #780252

    Bostonman
    Member

    Ho Ho Ho

    #780253

    JanS
    Participant

    did I see the sky falling when I was out earlier? I don’t remember….

    #780254

    wakeflood
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    Exactly, Hoop. Can’t wait for those unemployment checks to stop going to the Blackwater mercs!

    Wait, they’re still making $800/day guarding deisel trucks in the green zone? Oops. My bad.

    Merry Christmas!

    #780255

    JoB
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    austerity has consequences

    how many senior citizens do you want to force to the streets hoop?

    austerity for them means a choice between food and shelter

    #780256

    miws
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    I’d rather still be living in Nickelsville, even with the terrible effect the smoke and cold air had on my health, than to have the mindset of hoop…..

    Mike

    #780257

    hooper1961
    Member

    and i would rather see the people work for money! replacing a worn out bridge creates productive employment that is tangible and long term. in 30 years of working I collected one unemployment check. the second time i got laid off I collected not one check instead i started working for myself.

    JoB how many of those senior citizens simply failed to save during their working years? Remember SS was never intended to be the sole source of retirement income.

    #780258

    dobro
    Participant

    You’re a foul one, Mr. Grinch.

    You’re a nasty, wasty skunk.

    Your heart is full of unwashed socks

    Your soul is full of gunk.

    Mr. Grinch.

    #780259

    DBP
    Member

    hooper, don’t you ever get tired of being ridiculed on the Internets?

       

    Why don’t you get involved with a volunteer program where you can connect with some real live people? Then you can model life skills and share your boundless wisdom with people who could really benefit from it. Unlike us.

    #780260

    hooper1961
    Member

    what is it 20,000,000 not being productive. if all these people worked at say $10/hr is about a half trillion dollars a year is lost production. this is a waste of a resource. there are roads to be built, water systems to be fixed, electrical transmission lines that need upgrading.

    the point i am trying to make; more bang for the buck occurs when people work for money!

    btw dbp i have volunteered coaching in the past

    #780261

    dobro
    Participant

    You’re a rotter, Mr. Grinch.

    You’re the king of sinful sots.

    Your heart’s a dead tomato splot

    With moldy purple spots,

    Mr. Grinch.

    #780262

    JanS
    Participant

    Mr. Hooper…I suggest you go to the WS Food Bank on Senior Day (Tuesday morning), and talk to the seniors that “failed to save”, so therefore have to go begging for free food. Tell them what you tell us. Tell them to go out and get a job for 10 bucks an hour (and give them the list of people who will hire them). See what answers you get.

    You volunteered to coach? You deemed to help someone else? You simply started working for yourself, outsourced yourself with no training? And that made you rich?

    You have no effing idea what might befall you in life, in an instant, and that savings you think you have disappears, because you can’t get help from anyone else? (Like the gov’t.) You come walk in my shoes for a little while…it would be an eye opener..

    you whine, complain; does nothing make you happy? Amazing indeed !

    Merry Christmas…

    #780263

    2 Much Whine
    Participant

    You collected an unemployment check? I want my portion back! I’ve been working 40 years and have never collected a cent. It’s slackers like you that are messing up the system. . . . . makes about as much sense as your argument, doesn’t it? I will gladly continue to pay to help those that need it. It is called being a good neighbor and it contributes to the greater good.

    #780264

    JoB
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    hoop

    “and i would rather see the people work for money!”

    really? austerity doesn’t produce jobs hoop..

    in fact.. austerity reduces the number of jobs

    you might want to think this one through.

    ” replacing a worn out bridge creates productive employment that is tangible and long term. “

    we agree.. but we don’t need the kind of austerity you promote to do that.

    All we have to do is let the Bush tax cuts expire on the most wealthy people in this nation who have seen their incomes rise exponentially while the rest of America tries to figure out how to feed those without jobs..

    or.. we could fix the loopholes that allow corporations in America to collect record high profits while paying record low taxes.

    “JoB how many of those senior citizens simply failed to save during their working years?”

    surely you jest hoop.

    How many of those seniors invested in real estate to see their investments wiped out?

    how many of those seniors invested in the stock market and didn’t have the funds left after the crash to benefit from the recovery.

    How many of those seniors saw the nest egg that they thought would be large enough to leave and estate for their kids wiped out by escalating prices and declining returns?

    How many lost their futures to medical bills their insurance companies declined to pay?

    How exactly do you think the wealthiest in our nation accumulated all of that cash during the biggest economic downturn in our history hoop?

    i will give you a hint. they didn’t print it.

    #780265

    JoB
    Participant

    hoop

    “what is it 20,000,000 not being productive. if all these people worked at say $10/hr is about a half trillion dollars a year is lost production. this is a waste of a resource. there are roads to be built, water systems to be fixed, electrical transmission lines that need upgrading.”

    have you looked at unemployment rates lately?

    and they don’t count those who no longer receive unemployment .. since the government assumes that anyone no longer using their employment services has given up looking for work.

    and where are the votes from the austerity proponents to build infrastructure hoop?

    simple truth.. the same politicians who promote austerity have refused to pass bills that would put Americans back to work building bridges.

    and you are thinking that putting more people out of work and reducing the services they rely on to stay alive is the path to prosperity?

    it’s the path to death hoop…

    people die on our streets for lack of shelter.

    #780266

    JoB
    Participant

    by the way hoop..

    how many people have you employed this year?

    #780267

    waynster
    Participant

    Wait didn’t the world end yesterday so all them unemployment checks stopped…….Look if this country went back to the days when your job was gone to bad attitude we might as well rebuild the slums so the down and out would simply die and go away…. husbands would leave to look for work and never come back… kids as young as 8 out working hard labor to help make the ends meet ……. you know this wasn’t that long ago is this what we truly want I for one don’t….

    #780268

    JoB
    Participant

    waynster..

    people are so caught up in the rhetoric that they have forgotten how that rhetoric translates into real people’s lives.

    and when someone reminds them..

    they blame the people who have been affected by those policies for not somehow overcoming the circumstances the policies they promoted created.

    personal responsibility has become just another buzzword.

    it no longer has anything to do with your own personal responsibility for yourself and your fellow human beings..

    but is a phrase that is applied anyone you think isn’t doing what you think they should be doing

    it’s enough to make a grown woman cry

    #780269

    miws
    Participant

    Oh but doncha know Jo, those 67 year old Veterans, that got their legs blown off by a land mine, and were exposed to Agent Orange in ‘nam, can dig ditches, scale bridge structures, ANYTHING!

    In the world of hoop…..

    Mike

    #780270

    waynster
    Participant

    So very true Job so very true… its enough to make a grown man cry too…..

    #780271

    hooper1961
    Member

    JanS – when I started my business I worked 2,500+ hours a year for years. I am not rich and must continue to work to make ends meet.

    #780272

    JanS
    Participant

    and now you’re an employer? Are you hiring? Even at 10 bucks an hour?

    It’s exemplary what you did…it doesn’t make you better than other folk. It doesn’t give you the right to look down your nose at others who may not be doing as well as you are, or to judge others.

    #780273

    JoB
    Participant

    hoop..

    i wish hard work was all it took to succeed in America…

    but you know as well as i do that hard work alone won’t do it

    you have to be in the right place with the right idea at the right time

    and.. you had best have some kind of safety net to see you through the rough times…

    I am delighted that your hard work paid off..

    but believe me.. what other people are getting isn’t any free ride

    #780274

    DBP
    Member

    >>i wish hard work was all it took to succeed in America… but you know as well as i do that hard work alone won’t do it

    Erm . . . do you really think le hooper knows this, Jo? Everything he’s ever said on here suggests the contrary.

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