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December 21, 2012 at 8:28 pm #605983
hooper1961Memberausterity is just around the corner.
on a huge positive it will force government to prioritize limited resources to the nth degree and the never ending unemployment checks will finally come to a halt!
December 21, 2012 at 9:50 pm #780251
dobroParticipantMerry Christmas to you, too.
December 21, 2012 at 10:24 pm #780252
BostonmanMemberHo Ho Ho
December 21, 2012 at 10:29 pm #780253
JanSParticipantdid I see the sky falling when I was out earlier? I don’t remember….
December 21, 2012 at 10:33 pm #780254
wakefloodParticipantExactly, Hoop. Can’t wait for those unemployment checks to stop going to the Blackwater mercs!
Wait, they’re still making $800/day guarding deisel trucks in the green zone? Oops. My bad.
Merry Christmas!
December 21, 2012 at 11:19 pm #780255
JoBParticipantausterity has consequences
how many senior citizens do you want to force to the streets hoop?
austerity for them means a choice between food and shelter
December 22, 2012 at 2:11 am #780256
miwsParticipantI’d rather still be living in Nickelsville, even with the terrible effect the smoke and cold air had on my health, than to have the mindset of hoop…..
Mike
December 22, 2012 at 2:43 am #780257
hooper1961Memberand i would rather see the people work for money! replacing a worn out bridge creates productive employment that is tangible and long term. in 30 years of working I collected one unemployment check. the second time i got laid off I collected not one check instead i started working for myself.
JoB how many of those senior citizens simply failed to save during their working years? Remember SS was never intended to be the sole source of retirement income.
December 22, 2012 at 2:55 am #780258
dobroParticipantYou’re a foul one, Mr. Grinch.
You’re a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. Grinch.
December 22, 2012 at 4:22 am #780259
DBPMemberhooper, don’t you ever get tired of being ridiculed on the Internets?
Why don’t you get involved with a volunteer program where you can connect with some real live people? Then you can model life skills and share your boundless wisdom with people who could really benefit from it. Unlike us.
December 22, 2012 at 6:26 am #780260
hooper1961Memberwhat is it 20,000,000 not being productive. if all these people worked at say $10/hr is about a half trillion dollars a year is lost production. this is a waste of a resource. there are roads to be built, water systems to be fixed, electrical transmission lines that need upgrading.
the point i am trying to make; more bang for the buck occurs when people work for money!
btw dbp i have volunteered coaching in the past
December 22, 2012 at 6:29 am #780261
dobroParticipantYou’re a rotter, Mr. Grinch.
You’re the king of sinful sots.
Your heart’s a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Mr. Grinch.
December 22, 2012 at 7:44 am #780262
JanSParticipantMr. Hooper…I suggest you go to the WS Food Bank on Senior Day (Tuesday morning), and talk to the seniors that “failed to save”, so therefore have to go begging for free food. Tell them what you tell us. Tell them to go out and get a job for 10 bucks an hour (and give them the list of people who will hire them). See what answers you get.
You volunteered to coach? You deemed to help someone else? You simply started working for yourself, outsourced yourself with no training? And that made you rich?
You have no effing idea what might befall you in life, in an instant, and that savings you think you have disappears, because you can’t get help from anyone else? (Like the gov’t.) You come walk in my shoes for a little while…it would be an eye opener..
you whine, complain; does nothing make you happy? Amazing indeed !
Merry Christmas…
December 22, 2012 at 10:45 am #780263
2 Much WhineParticipantYou collected an unemployment check? I want my portion back! I’ve been working 40 years and have never collected a cent. It’s slackers like you that are messing up the system. . . . . makes about as much sense as your argument, doesn’t it? I will gladly continue to pay to help those that need it. It is called being a good neighbor and it contributes to the greater good.
December 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm #780264
JoBParticipanthoop
“and i would rather see the people work for money!”
really? austerity doesn’t produce jobs hoop..
in fact.. austerity reduces the number of jobs
you might want to think this one through.
” replacing a worn out bridge creates productive employment that is tangible and long term. “
we agree.. but we don’t need the kind of austerity you promote to do that.
All we have to do is let the Bush tax cuts expire on the most wealthy people in this nation who have seen their incomes rise exponentially while the rest of America tries to figure out how to feed those without jobs..
or.. we could fix the loopholes that allow corporations in America to collect record high profits while paying record low taxes.
“JoB how many of those senior citizens simply failed to save during their working years?”
surely you jest hoop.
How many of those seniors invested in real estate to see their investments wiped out?
how many of those seniors invested in the stock market and didn’t have the funds left after the crash to benefit from the recovery.
How many of those seniors saw the nest egg that they thought would be large enough to leave and estate for their kids wiped out by escalating prices and declining returns?
How many lost their futures to medical bills their insurance companies declined to pay?
How exactly do you think the wealthiest in our nation accumulated all of that cash during the biggest economic downturn in our history hoop?
i will give you a hint. they didn’t print it.
December 22, 2012 at 2:26 pm #780265
JoBParticipanthoop
“what is it 20,000,000 not being productive. if all these people worked at say $10/hr is about a half trillion dollars a year is lost production. this is a waste of a resource. there are roads to be built, water systems to be fixed, electrical transmission lines that need upgrading.”
have you looked at unemployment rates lately?
and they don’t count those who no longer receive unemployment .. since the government assumes that anyone no longer using their employment services has given up looking for work.
and where are the votes from the austerity proponents to build infrastructure hoop?
simple truth.. the same politicians who promote austerity have refused to pass bills that would put Americans back to work building bridges.
and you are thinking that putting more people out of work and reducing the services they rely on to stay alive is the path to prosperity?
it’s the path to death hoop…
people die on our streets for lack of shelter.
December 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm #780266
JoBParticipantDecember 22, 2012 at 3:03 pm #780267
waynsterParticipantWait didn’t the world end yesterday so all them unemployment checks stopped…….Look if this country went back to the days when your job was gone to bad attitude we might as well rebuild the slums so the down and out would simply die and go away…. husbands would leave to look for work and never come back… kids as young as 8 out working hard labor to help make the ends meet ……. you know this wasn’t that long ago is this what we truly want I for one don’t….
December 22, 2012 at 3:10 pm #780268
JoBParticipantwaynster..
people are so caught up in the rhetoric that they have forgotten how that rhetoric translates into real people’s lives.
and when someone reminds them..
they blame the people who have been affected by those policies for not somehow overcoming the circumstances the policies they promoted created.
personal responsibility has become just another buzzword.
it no longer has anything to do with your own personal responsibility for yourself and your fellow human beings..
but is a phrase that is applied anyone you think isn’t doing what you think they should be doing
it’s enough to make a grown woman cry
December 22, 2012 at 3:17 pm #780269
miwsParticipantOh but doncha know Jo, those 67 year old Veterans, that got their legs blown off by a land mine, and were exposed to Agent Orange in ‘nam, can dig ditches, scale bridge structures, ANYTHING!
In the world of hoop…..
Mike
December 22, 2012 at 3:19 pm #780270
waynsterParticipantSo very true Job so very true… its enough to make a grown man cry too…..
December 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm #780271
hooper1961MemberJanS – when I started my business I worked 2,500+ hours a year for years. I am not rich and must continue to work to make ends meet.
December 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm #780272
JanSParticipantand now you’re an employer? Are you hiring? Even at 10 bucks an hour?
It’s exemplary what you did…it doesn’t make you better than other folk. It doesn’t give you the right to look down your nose at others who may not be doing as well as you are, or to judge others.
December 23, 2012 at 11:17 pm #780273
JoBParticipanthoop..
i wish hard work was all it took to succeed in America…
but you know as well as i do that hard work alone won’t do it
you have to be in the right place with the right idea at the right time
and.. you had best have some kind of safety net to see you through the rough times…
I am delighted that your hard work paid off..
but believe me.. what other people are getting isn’t any free ride
December 23, 2012 at 11:23 pm #780274
DBPMember>>i wish hard work was all it took to succeed in America… but you know as well as i do that hard work alone won’t do it
Erm . . . do you really think le hooper knows this, Jo? Everything he’s ever said on here suggests the contrary.
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