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March 1, 2012 at 5:54 pm #602345
kootchmanMemberFrom the Huffy Puffy Post…. this morning. Abusive, violent father… and bullied. He had, maybe has promise… his Facebook post.
“”In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone,”
“So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. ‘Stay back!’ The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. ‘Oh God, have mercy, please!'”
March 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm #749431
metrognomeParticipantneed kootchman-to-English translation … is there an app for that?
March 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm #749432
kootchmanMemberThe shooter in the Ohio school… the one that has killed three students? He had a facebook Post… it is quoted verbatim from the Huffy Puffy Post… while disturbing… there is quality to his writing that is more disturbing, a quality it would seem to me had possibilities. That work for ya metro? As it has been said, violence is the voice of the unheard.
March 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm #749433
DBPMemberCan you give us a link to the article?
I wonder if the guy had anyone he could connect with face-to-face. Sure, he had Facebook, but that obviously didn’t help him much. Maybe it even made things worse. Social networking sites offer a kind of human contact, but it’s pretty superficial.
The Virginia Tech shooter was similiar to this guy in a way. He was basically a good kid, but he had a problem with his speech and had a social phobia because of that. He did all right as long as he was in the bosom of his family, but when he got out into the big world of college, he couldn’t handle it, and the increasing social isolation eventually caused him to crack.
Both of these guys needed help and didn’t get it.
Neither one should have been allowed to possess a firearm.
March 1, 2012 at 8:41 pm #749434
JanSParticipantquestion, Kootch…are you trying to say that something that he read on the Huffington Post made him do it?
March 1, 2012 at 8:47 pm #749435
kootchmanMemberHuffington Post. This is sadder than I imagined.. truly so. He was supposedly at an “alternative school” with an active antenna out for these kinds of kids.
This isn’t the quote I lifted this morning… hi name is TJ Lane…no shortage of coverage.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/29/ohio-school-shooting-suspect-tj-lane_n_1311956.html
March 1, 2012 at 9:36 pm #749436
metrognomeParticipantkootch — it would have helped if you had included your insight from post 3 in your original post so we could better understand what you were trying to get across. I apologize for my snark; I should have simply asked what your thoughts were on this tragedy that has changed so many lives forever.
Yes, the shooting is a tragedy. And the writings and drawings of otherwise ‘normal’ people, esp teenagers, can provide a great deal of insight into what is really going on in their lives. Some (if not most) of the most profound works of are in the history of humanity came from people who were struggling with these issues. I would imagine that all of us at one time or another (or many, many times) have felt the despair and hopelessness that this young man felt. Fortunately, the vast majority of us don’t act on the despair the way he did; unforunately, too many of us act out through less sensational ways (suicide, child/spousal abuse, drug/alcohol abuse, bullying, etc.) Sometimes, all it takes is someone who is willing to listen so we can let off steam.
I think our culture (and I mean predominantly America altho we have managed to export our culture, ‘good’ and ‘bad’, to the entire world) really needs to examine the polarity and visciousness that seems to dominate both our entertainment options and our public life. And, no, I’m not talking about gun control, altho the availability of weapons is an issue. Nor am I talking about more government regulations. I think we have ceded way too much of the basis for our morality to what is ‘legal’ vs what is ‘right’. The more we wander around with our ear buds blocking out the world, the more estranged we become and the more we see others as caricatures. It’s about making a conscious choice each time to connect with the world around us and to disconnect from those people who encourage unhealthy relationships. This takes work and requires an on-going commitment; it’s sometimes as easy as changing our language or simply choosing to not say anything when nothing needs to be said.
“Every man has his secret sorrows which the world knows not; and oftentimes we call a man cold when he is only sad.” Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
“We can make our minds so like still water that beings gather about us that they may see, it may be, their own images, and so live for a moment with a clearer, perhaps fiecer life because of our quiet.” William Butler Yeats
March 2, 2012 at 12:21 am #749437
365StairsParticipantI really didn’t want to look this up…but I was wondering about how many of these tragic events happen outside of the US…
There are clearly WAY more issues of this nature in the US than not…this data goes to 2010….
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