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September 17, 2009 at 5:24 pm #676826
maplesyrupParticipantIf you’re on a unicycle, it’s much easier to use your cell phone.
September 17, 2009 at 5:34 pm #676827
austinMemberI’m not feeling especially snarky today but the idea of bombing down 1st ave on a unicycle seems pretty great to me. I would bite asphalt a million times. Did you know they only have one wheel!
September 17, 2009 at 10:49 pm #676828
AlParticipantSeptember 18, 2009 at 1:40 am #676829
melissaParticipantThank you, Vincent, for your irreverence. Many folks here are Very Serious and Not To Be Trifled with, but you are an equal opportunity trifler and you add giggles to the crazy.
September 18, 2009 at 2:09 am #676830
JanSParticipantmelissa..are you saying I’m crazy? ;-)
a little unbalanced, maybe, but crazy is sooo harsh – lol…
September 18, 2009 at 6:55 pm #676831
vincentMemberYo JanS, I am really happy for you and I’mma let you finish, but BDG is the craziest poster on WSB of all time.
September 19, 2009 at 5:13 am #676832
ellenaterMembervincent I am enjoying your dog with cupcakes very much. :) There is just so many ways that could go…and the terrible aftermath.
September 19, 2009 at 5:14 am #676833
ellenaterMemberThe bikers in Eugene were pretty radical. They’d pound on your car if you got too close. I simultaneously wanted to praise and punch them.
It’s fine here, for the most part.
Please. Continue.
October 2, 2009 at 5:18 am #676834
PenmanMemberThere is also a law that a slow vehicle holding up 5 or more cars pull over and allow them to pass.
Share the road, share the laws.
October 2, 2009 at 5:50 am #676835
HMC RichParticipantMy bicycle is a piece of art. Sitting in one spot gleaming when the sun splashes it with light. It is a magnificent piece of technology. The only way it gets ruined is when I use it. It is a machine but it cannot win in a collision with a car. Bikes don’t hurt people, people hurt people. . . well usually. There are some exceptions.
Remember, cyclists have very little protection. Less if they don’t cycle defensively. A woman died up on high point last year. Too many of us are rude. I don’t want anyone getting hurt. The roads were built for mostly motorized vehicles and those who choose to ride do so at more of a risk. We have to be careful but if somebody in a car or a bike is dumb, well the cyclist has a better chance of getting hurt AND they should be able to take some criticism.
I still say cyclists should be taxed or bike toll booths should be put in place. Maybe they should be forced to have bicycle insurance too! Also they should start making the helmets out of the same stuff that is on a car’s license. Big brudda will be watchin’ for yuse. Do bikers get speeding tickets too? The last paragraph was meant to be in fun just in case you have lost your sense of humor.
October 2, 2009 at 5:52 am #676836
HMC RichParticipantThe most awesome bike in the world…
http://bitsandpieces1.blogspot.com/2007/02/pee-wee-hermans-bike.html
October 2, 2009 at 3:44 pm #676837
AlParticipant“There is also a law that a slow vehicle holding up 5 or more cars pull over and allow them to pass.”
The WA State RCW is very specific. This rule applies to Hiways and is specific about how to do it. One does not just pull over as soon as 5 cars are lined up.
RCW 46.61.427 Slow-moving vehicle to pull off roadway. On a two-lane highway where passing is unsafe because of traffic in the opposite direction or other conditions, a slow moving vehicle, behind which five or more vehicles are formed in a line, shall turn off the roadway wherever sufficient area for a safe turn-out exists, in order to permit the vehicles following to proceed. As used in this section a slow moving vehicle is one which is proceeding at a rate of speed less than the normal flow of traffic at the particular time and place.
Furthermore, according to the Seattle RCW, vehicles passing a slower moving road user must excercise due care and yield to the vehicle in front of them.
SMC 11.52.130 Minimum speed regulation — Passing slow-moving vehicle. No person shall operate a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to
impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with
law. Any person following a vehicle being driven at less than the legal maximum speed and desiring to pass such vehicle shall not exceed the speed limit when passing such vehicle. Where any slow-moving motor vehicle tends to congest traffic, any peace officer may cause such vehicle to be removed from the roadway and permit the congested
traffic to be relieved. (RCW 46.61.425(1))
(Ord. 108200 Section 2(11.52.130), 1979.) SMC 11.52.160 Minimum speed regulation. No person shall drive a vehicle slower than a minimum speed limit when appropriate signs giving notice thereof are erected, except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law. (RCW 46.61.425(2))
Pertaining to cyclists, we are allowed to ride in the roadway as it is safe, we are not required to yield to any vehicle behind us: SMC 11.44.040 Riding on roadways. Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed slower than the normal and reasonable flow of motor vehicle traffic thereon shall
ride as NEAR to the right side of the right through lane AS IS SAFE, except as may be appropriate while preparing to make or while making
turning movements, or while overtaking and passing another bicycle or
vehicle proceeding in the same direction. A person operating a bicycle
upon a roadway that carries traffic in one (1) direction only and that
has two (2) or more marked traffic lanes may ride as near to the left
side of the left through lane as is safe. A person operating a bicycle
upon a roadway may utilize the shoulder of the roadway or any
specially designated bicycle lane if such exists. (RCW 46.61770(1))
HMC Rich, you may be joking, but those are serious issues you bring up.
October 6, 2009 at 6:22 pm #676838
PenmanMemberOctober 6, 2009 at 6:46 pm #676839
vincentMemberPenman: nice comeback, your proved wrong by RCW and resort to weak sarcasm. You seem to be of the mindset of a lot of drivers that sharing the road is what happens when your not using it. At which point any obstacle is expected to remove it self immediately. Sadly for you, reality, and the letter of the law doesn’t see it that way. oh well, lets talk about bike licenses! and that one guy I saw once who ran a stop sign
October 6, 2009 at 7:13 pm #676840
AlParticipantPenman – you stated, “Share the road, share the laws.” Ok, I quoted the laws. In no way does the law advocate “just do whatever in their own interest.” All road users are beholden to those laws, with regulations governing specific types of roadways and even vehicles. A cyclist is not a motor vehicle so a subset of the RCWs pertain to cyclists which is pretty descriptive. Whether cyclists or drivers choose to use the roadway within the RCWs is another question – but don’t create arguments using false premises.
October 7, 2009 at 9:15 pm #676841
vincentMemberbikes should have to get licenses! ( I haven’t read this one all week, so I filled it in )
October 12, 2009 at 9:10 pm #676842This is the third time in two weeks while shoppping in the Alaska Junction that we have been TOLD to move so that an adult biker can pass us on the SIDEWALK – If they want to bike either go to Alki, Lincoln park or use the bike lanes.
October 12, 2009 at 10:14 pm #676843
vincentMemberWell DDS WILLIAM H RALIEGH Its legal to ride on the side walk in Washington state. If you want to live without bikes on the side walk, follow your own suggestion and move to idaho.
October 13, 2009 at 3:29 am #676844
AlParticipant“DDS” how are the cyclists “telling” you to move? Are they saying, “Move over!” or are they saying “behind you” or “on your left?” It’s perfectly legal for a cyclist to use the sidewalk, however they must yield to pedestrians. If you can’t move over then let the cyclist behind you know in a positive manner that you can’t do so immediately and let them wait. Most pedestrians will try and make space for a passing cyclist by moving a bit so the cyclist can get by – and common courtesy goes a long way on both sides.
Alki and Lincoln Park are nice places for a destination but they aren’t useful for making trips to say the grocery store, the cafe or to run other miscellaneous errands or to get to work. Most bicycle parking/racks are located on the sidewalk. Many new cyclists tend to use the sidewalks rather than street because it’s perceived as safer than riding with vehicles (sometimes this is justifiable). There aren’t many bike lanes in West Seattle either – and even if there were bike lanes, it’s not mandatory for cyclists to use those either. Cyclists will be on the streets and sidewalks. If you have any constructive questions, I’m sure if you post here you will get a constructive answer.
June 9, 2011 at 2:47 am #676845
DIzzleMemberBBG- at least come up with something original…ENOUGH with the cut & paste routine.
It’s about balance and smart writing.
June 9, 2011 at 3:09 am #676846
DIzzleMemberExactly!!
June 9, 2011 at 4:44 am #676847
JoBParticipant“It’s perfectly legal for a cyclist to use the sidewalk, however they must yield to pedestrians”
The trouble is that too many bicyclists expect pedestrians to yield to them :(
sort of like car drivers :(
at least cars can’t legally use the sidewalks.
June 9, 2011 at 5:08 am #676848
WSBKeymasterFYI this shouldn’t have been reopened. I’m closing it and will be deleting the newer posts, even though the only ones that broke the rules were those by the user with the crude name (which itself is a rulebreaker), so that it will go back into the archives from whence it came. Usually it’s just commercial spammers or free-ad types that try to reopen very old threads … Thanks again for the flag.
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