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October 11, 2010 at 11:48 pm #704457
DPMemberJoB:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you start off by worrying about binge drinkers being given new opportunities to hurt themselves? Now you’re talking about people getting hammered downtown and driving over to Magnolia so they can run amok.
;-)
Ok, I kid . . . But I still detect a whiff of Big Nanny* in some of these arguments against I-1100.
“Raise taxes to pay for increased public alcohol-related costs”? Hell yes, I’d vote for that. — As long as the taxes are put right where they belong: on alcohol.
And since you’ve raised the issue, how much of the hundreds of millions of dollars the state currently reaps in liquor proceeds goes towards alcohol abatement programs, do you suppose? Somewhat less than 100%, I’ll wager.
–David
*Big Nanny is like Big Brother, only with a skirt.
October 12, 2010 at 2:12 am #704458
JoBParticipantDP…
ok..
it’s ok with you that the state loses the revenue from the state liquor stores
and it’s ok with you that alcohol related crime and social problems increase…
as long as you can ride down the street on your pretend harley yelling born to be free?
So just how much do you think I should pay for that?
worldcitizen
you may be willing to pay that price
and if it was just yours to pay i might agree
but what about the rest of us who will also be assuming this open ended bill?
i would really rather just buy you a drink.. or two.. or three.
October 13, 2010 at 9:51 am #704459
HMC RichParticipantI was near Anacortes the other day at a reservation gas station. It was nice to know I could get a fifth at the convenience store.
MORE convenience, less money spent. I’ll drink to that.
October 13, 2010 at 7:00 pm #704460
JoBParticipantHMCRich…
our nation’s reservations are an excellent example of the increased public cost of alcohol availability…
you really should check out those stats:(
October 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm #704461
WorldCitizenParticipantThat’s right, the state of our Native’s lands can be attributed directly to the availability of hard liquor in gas stations. Thats the reason there’s such a problem with alcoholism there…
October 13, 2010 at 11:26 pm #704462
JoBParticipantworldcitizen…
you tickle me. i knew the minute i typed that note to HMCRich that you would be all over it…
but if you step back half a step you will find that alcohol related crime and social costs have increased on the reservation when alcohol availability increased … just like they have everywhere else.
gosh.. maybe they are more like us than you thought ;->
October 14, 2010 at 6:42 pm #704463
CarsonParticipantsorry JoB, ballot just arrived, 1100 yes, 1105 yes, 1098 yes, all in ink……
October 14, 2010 at 8:04 pm #704464
JoBParticipantCarson..
your choice…
remember that when you end up picking up the tab for 1100 and 1105…
with any luck it will only cost you money.
October 14, 2010 at 8:08 pm #704465
WorldCitizenParticipantCarson:
Remember, before you send it off, 1100 and 1105 passing together would create a pretty big potential problem. It may be a better idea to vote for one over the other. Whichever one YOU see being the better answer of course.
October 14, 2010 at 8:15 pm #704466
JoBParticipantCarson..
world citizen has a point…
perhaps inking that ballot so quickly was not your best choice…
http://yes1100no1105.blogspot.com/2010/08/what-are-differences-between-1100-and.html
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