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  • #871918

    JoB
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    I put this in politics because i guess that’s where it belongs..
    but the Voice of America is now just one more political tool…and that should concern us all.

    the short story is that our lovely Republican Congress removed the non-partisan board of directors for the Voice of America and replaced them with directors who serve at the pleasure of the President… in this case two 20 year old Trump appointees…

    It’s easy to think that President Trump didn’t want anything said by the Voice of America on the world stage that would embarrass him… and that could be true… but if you look deeper.. our Republican Congress just ensured that the only version of American Politics that the world would here is theirs…

    If you currently give to alternative news sources.. it’s time to give more. If you don’t, it’s time to start. Otherwise all we will hear is a steady stream of FAUX news alternative reality.

    https://mediamatters.org/video/2017/01/25/rachel-maddow-details-how-trump-turning-voice-america-his-personal-propaganda-outlet/215135

    • This topic was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by JoB.
    #872014

    JanS
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    yes…I remember lying on my cot in my barracks outside of Frankfurt, Germany, in 1974, listening to Richard Nixon when he resigned, over Voice of America. Now it will simply be a way of hiding the truth, the real world, and will be a propaganda machine. Heartbreaking, everything that is going on.

    #872091

    captainDave
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    #872132

    JoB
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    Captain Dave
    do you even read the articles you link to.. or do you just look for headlines or key phrases you think make your point?

    #872159

    captainDave
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    JoB: Please make a point instead of asking if I read what I post. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The bill was put into play when a win was 99.9% guaranteed for Hillary. I doubt you would have had any complaints about this if she had won. These are the dangers of the centralized government authority you were expecting with a continuation of Obama’s despotic policies. Fortunately, I don’t think President Trump will be inclined to abuse it like Hillary would have with her calls to kill off the “alt-right” news. But we shale see.

    #872160

    JanS
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

    #872242

    JoB
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    The post i wrote earlier doesn’t show up on my page.. so i am going to post it again. forgive me if i am just repeating myself..

    Captain Dave..

    You couldn’t possibly be more wrong. If Hillary had become our President i would be advocating that control of the Voice of America be returned to it’s independent status.. even if she had to do so by Presidential decree.

    When those who control the Voice of America serve at the pleasure of the sitting President it becomes little more than a propaganda tool for the sitting party… and that is not my idea of the kind of democracy we should be broadcasting to the world …

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    #872262

    captainDave
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    JoB: Why on earth do you think Hillary would have relinquished control of something that she apparently aspired to effectuate? What stops you from advocating your desires to Trump? He probably had nothing to do with the bill in the first place. He seems to like twitter better anyway.

    #872279

    JoB
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    Captain Dave..

    what makes you think that Hillary was responsible for the Republican legislation that made Trump’s control of the Voice of America possible?
    And if he is not interested why did he replace the board with two political appointees?

    logic fails.

    #872290

    captainDave
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    JoB: the legislation was planned when both the democrats and republicans were certain of a Hillary presidency. Remember, there was “no way” President Trump was going to win. I am not saying he’s not going to exert the same control planned by Hillary. I don’t know. But Trump was the de-centralization candidate, so I am less concerned. However, I am glad liberals like you are paying attention to these things. That’s how democracy works for everyone.

    #872316

    JoB
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    captain dave..
    this is what i hear you saying…
    it wasn’t the republicans. i know they controlled the house and senate but they were sure Hillary was going to be our president so we have to blame her…

    hogwash.. sorry but it doesn’t float

    #872344

    captainDave
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    JoB: Blame the republicrat establishment. Trump was not suppose to win. The deal was likely that Hillary and George Soros were to run influence over all major western media organizations under pay-to-play consult from the Saudi government. It would have been a very lucrative situation for the Clinton Foundation.

    #872429

    JanS
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    do NOT hand us that pay-to-play crap. To wit ” “I have decided to stop taking offense,” she wrote, “at the suggestion that we are buying influence. Now I simply concede the point. They are right. We do expect something in return. We expect to foster a conservative governing philosophy consisting of limited government and respect for traditional American virtues. We expect a return on our investment.”

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/betsy-devos-trumps-big-donor-education-secretary

    it’s ok when the conservatives do it, but, Oh, my effing god, those ignorant corrupt liberals…George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and on and on and on with your whining…

    #872443

    captainDave
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    JanS: Except that one side is far more o-p-r-e-s-i-v-e than the other.

    #872517

    JoB
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    Captain Dave..
    at what point did the storyline of what the Democrats could have done override the facts about what the Republicans did do? Are you saying they were Democratic tools?

    I am not sure how much more oppressive you think the democrats could have been than our current Administration.. but perhaps re-reading the political definition of that word will allow you to reflect…

    op·pres·sive
    əˈpresiv/Submit
    adjective
    unjustly inflicting hardship and constraint, especially on a minority or other subordinate group.
    “an oppressive dictatorship”
    synonyms: harsh, cruel, brutal, repressive, tyrannical, tyrannous, iron-fisted, autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, undemocratic; More

    oh wait.. i forgot.. you have the mistaken opinion that entitled white males are the “oppressed” group… as if ending entitlement equalled oppression :(

    #872553

    captainDave
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    JoB: Yes. Both sides previous to the current admin are guilty. Over regulation is oppres-sive, de-regulation is less.

    I don’t agree with removal of enti-tlements being a form of opp-ression, but that is a longer discussion than I am apparently allowed to post–too many trigger words.

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