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    365Stairs
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    Sensless Darkness has fallen upon our communities two more times this week…

    I can barely write this…as I stare at my kindergartner…who stayed home today…she wonders why her mother and I are hugging her.

    Lord…please help those families in desperate need find Your peace in this unimaginable, unthinkable time…they need you more than ever!

    Lord…please…please help those who are feeling lost and weakened and driven to perform evil on the defenseless as their final act…please show them that all life is truly valuable…and they would prove nothing to take anothers…

    To the rest of us…lay down petty judgements and show good at all opportunity…open your eyes to those around you that may be in need and help…

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    #779734

    HMC Rich
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    Thank You. I share your sentiments. I look at my Kindergartner and wonder what his future will look like.

    #779735

    westcoastdeb
    Participant

    I just cannot breathe. How does this happen? Why?

    Those babies.

    The adults who died, leaving behind possibly babies of their own.

    Something’s gotta give.

    Stabbing of 22 in china as well, including school kids:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/14/china-knife-attack-school.html

    So senseless. So so so senseless.

    #779736

    Bostonman
    Member

    This is an absolute nightmare for those parents. What would drive someone to do something like this is beyond me and will probably never be understood by anyone.

    #779737

    add
    Participant

    It is so incredibly horrific and I am having a visceral reaction to this story. We MUST get moving on gun control laws, media practices, and support for the mentally ill. We cannot accept this as the “new normal” and that there is nothing we can do to stop these truly senseless acts. I am ready to get out in the streets over this.

    #779738

    Bostonman
    Member

    There are enough threads on gun control, go bog down one of those threads.

    #779739

    funkietoo
    Participant

    No words to describe this horror and sadness. Sending heartfelt thoughts to all of the children and adults.

    #779740

    365Stairs
    Participant

    Trying to find the strength to attempt to explain Why to my children…because sheltering them is not possible anymore…

    #779741

    westcoastdeb
    Participant

    The caliber of at least one of the guns recovered was a .223, the same as the shell casings recovered at the 7900 block of 12th SW just a few days ago.

    Suddenly, the safety bubble is eroded.

    #779742

    wakeflood
    Participant

    We all want an answer to “why?”. I can’t escape the notion that we, as a society, have for too long stoked the flames of internal distrust for others and fear of, well, almost anything that we don’t control.

    Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. Hatred leads to acting out when vulnerable and upset.

    It’s an inflammation of the mind/soul. A powerful, paranoid meme that pits all of us against each other in sometimes slight and insidious ways.

    We seek false sense of security by gathering elements of defensive protection that are just as potent when used offensively when our tenuous threads of sanity snap. Blame creates targets. Defense becomes offense.

    How do we calm the inflammation? How do we defuse the meme?

    #779743

    hooper1961
    Member

    totally senseless. how can anyone take out their anger on kindergartner’s.

    #779744

    hammerhead
    Participant

    I can not imagine what you as parents are going threw watching this tragedy unfold, as I do not have children.

    As I sit crying and can only imagine what is happening,during what should be a happy time for all.

    Prayers to all. Hope it can still be a Merry Christmas.

    HH

    #779745

    DBP
    Member

    >>How do we calm the inflammation? How do we defuse the meme?

    –Glad you asked. There are two ways we can do this:

     

    Way 1: We can all try to meditate and reflect and become better people. That way, whenever there’s a horrific mass murder involving a gun – and the way things are going we know there will be many more – we can “process” it.

    Way 2: We can make guns harder to get. That way there won’t be anything to process. 

    #779746

    DBP
    Member

    >>We all want an answer to “why?”

    –There are actually two “why’s” involved here.

     

    Why 1: Why did this guy go nuts?

    The answer to that is, and will probably always be: Unknown

    Why 2: Why was this guy able to kill a bunch of people?

    In fact, that one is not really a “why” at all, because the answer is already known: Because he had a gun. 

    #779747

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    I have been sobbing all morning because I feel the parents grief.

    Locally, we should examine very directly with the SPS and other school districts what safety measures can be taken. But that is for tomorrow. Today we need to be with our loved ones and our precious children.

    No rational person would do this. This was the act of a complete madman.

    It is too early to know and say too much, but please, lets band together in Love and support each other and help where we can.

    #779748

    velo_nut
    Participant

    How about instead of praying, we actually do something about gun control, violence and mental health in this country?

    #779749

    365Stairs
    Participant

    Velonut – as you can imagine…the prayers are to help begin a healing…they add comfort to peoples lives who have just been ripped apart and the national dominoe effect that is…

    To your next point…it should be a universal Weapons Control…because it is not just about guns…

    Better Control of Mental issues…Eliminating Violent Video Games…Improving Awareness & Vigilence towards violent tendancies / signs of which can easily be masked under “kids being kids” at early stages…Offering overwhelmed parent support…and a host of 1,000 different things to combat evil…and evil doers.

    Unknown…yes…always unknown…but strangely…isn’t there always that one or two people who come “after the fact”…well…this person started / did this or that interesting act recently…

    Actions do speak loudly…

    Sweeping weapons control is a start. But this does NOT contain the weapons that exist.

    But while on the subject…you CAN begin to control the ammo and make it very difficult to get the bullets…there are(4) pieces to the ammo. Commercially made ready ammo should not be sold without umpteen different security checks…and for self-loaders…you control lead sales, brass case sales, primer, and powder sales at the most strict levels.

    You make the places that manufacture and sell these put tracking measures on each box, unit, etc. These places must be the most secure places. Actually…there should be just ONE place for this…that everyone has to go through and be scrutized for asking to buy any component…accessory involving guns…

    This will not control what is out there already…or stop thieves.

    But it is a start…

    Ask people to volunteer their weapons turn in? Successful in some pockets.

    Eliminate manufacture of all commercial weapons all together? Likely not in our lifetime.

    Too many places to consider…too many out there right now…but yes…start somewhere.

    For now…please pray for those families that have been forever changed today…yesterday..because there are people who don’t understand the value of a Life that was meant to be lived in peace…and love.

    #779750

    JanS
    Participant

    I think that what the president said is important. Today is not a day to talk about laws. Today is a day for grief. I can’t imagine anyone who has a heart not being grieved by this. It’s a day of talking with, being with, loving your children, and grieving for the families who have lost theirs.

    We can talk gun laws tomorrow..

    #779751

    goodgraces
    Participant

    No words, only deep, deep sorrow.

    #779752

    wakeflood
    Participant

    Regardless of which version of the “how we prevent these events” you ascribe to, there are a couple things that should be omnipresent.

    1. We can’t ignore the issue any longer and pretend we’re shocked again next time. These are NOT isolated events. They are inextricably linked to a malady in our society. To deny that is to deny that change can and should happen.

    2. We have to be willing to look at the long game. It took us a couple of generations to get this sick, it’s going to take at least that many to heal us.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m ashamed as an American that all we have to offer the murdered and their families are prayers and condolences time after time after time…

    If that truly is the case, then each President might as well offer a prayer and thoughtful condolences to the future victims at every inaugural. At least the dead will know they were in our thoughts when they were alive.

    Madness.

    #779753

    JoB
    Participant

    Wakeflood is right

    we can’t ignore these issues any longer and believe that they will just go away

    they won’t

    the sickness in our political system

    is only a mirror of the sickness in our society

    however.. i believe we have begun the process of turning this around

    we make progress every time we talk with one another

    #779754

    miws
    Participant

    Today we need to grieve.

    Tomorrow we need to retain the anger we have today, and use it as a catalyst to attempt to end these senseless, repeated, tragedies….

    Mike

    #779755

    JoB
    Participant

    i am not willing to risk the life of one more child.

    I am not waiting till tomorrow to say that this has to stop now

    #779756

    waynster
    Participant

    When the leader of the free world cries over senseless killings of the very young its time to put an end to this madness ..RIP little ones :o(

    #779757

    Cait
    Participant

    I understand the comfort in the “today is not the day” sentiment, but there is no use in telling people when and when not to talk about things. People deal with grief differently, it’s what we’re all doing. Anger is normal in grief. Bargaining (or in the case of guns, “arguing”) is normal too. You would never tell someone who lost a family member that the way they felt the day it happened was inappropriate. When it’s a massive tragedy on this scale, it’s all normal and we have to be permissive or just let it be. Saying “No, not now” is very hard and very alienating for people who deal with grief differently to hear. I am angry. I want to fight. I want to DO SOMETHING. And many people do. Many of them use social media. And we all know how to hide from that if it bothers us.

    It is a sad fact of the human condition that in 72 hours, we as a nation will be on to the next thing. We need to be frank that there is no healing from this, there shouldn’t be. I pray to God that the families directly effected by this do to the best of our abilities, but we have to understand our unique and relatively fortunate situation here. We are bystanders. We are able to look at a situation as people somewhat removed from this to simultaneously be disgusted, angry, horrified, scared and still have the wherewithall to ask the question “How do we make this stop?”

    I am absolutely disturbed by what happened and I want to watch us be mature enough as a nation to say “Never again. And NOW. While it’s fresh. While people care more about this than who Taylor Swift is dating.” And that window is short. We focus so much on “healing” that another tragedy pops up before we have the time, and then the cycle starts over again with people pushing it under the rug until the next time we feel the need to pray or send our thoughts whatever that might mean to these actual real people. The window to make the world listen and participate in a discussion about guns and mental health care is when it’s in front of our face. You can bet the NRA is doing it on the other side of this sensitivity spectrum.

    No one who lost a child today is checking the West Seattle Blog. It is not inappropriate to say “enough is enough and we need to have the talk now” when we are not dealing with this directly. Because you can bet that for the people who are REALLY dealing with it, it will be one of the first stops on their train of healing toward hope. “How do we make it so this doesn’t happen to anyone else’s children.” And if it were me, I would hope that the nation was behind me. And I’d hope that someone with some power was able to say “One step ahead of you…”

    There are answers. They don’t arrive without questions.

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