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    mpento
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    #783235

    DBP
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    In honor of Dr. King, let’s see if we can’t keep this one rolling today . . .

    So anyway, how’s The Dream doing lately? How we comin’ along with that whole racial equality and social justice thing?

       

    Well?

     

    #783236

    dobro
    Participant

    Here’s one of his quotes I like…

    “Now there is a final reason I think that Jesus says, “Love your enemies.” It is this: that love has within it a redemptive power. And there is a power there that eventually transforms individuals. Just keep being friendly to that person. Just keep loving them, and they can’t stand it too long. Oh, they react in many ways in the beginning. They react with guilt feelings, and sometimes they’ll hate you a little more at that transition period, but just keep loving them. And by the power of your love they will break down under the load. That’s love, you see. It is redemptive, and this is why Jesus says love. There’s something about love that builds up and is creative. There is something about hate that tears down and is destructive. So love your enemies. (from “Loving Your Enemies”)”

    ― Martin Luther King Jr.

    #783237

    dobro
    Participant

    Apparently people are much more interested in making sure overweight people pay more for insurance. Ces’t la vie.

    #783238

    JoB
    Participant

    dobro..

    yesterday i had a conversation that you might find interesting.

    we were talking about gun violence and the comment was made that the biggest problem was that people don’t seem to value the lives of those around them …

    i remember when the rhetoric of us and them concerned religious preference or color… we didn’t talk about sex, the closet was a very real place when i grew up

    but now almost any excuse creates a them category… what you think you know about someone’s dietary habits, for instance

    I mentioned that i had noticed a drastic national shift that altered the mindset of people even 5 years younger than myself… and wondered what had caused such a sudden shift…

    then in occurred to me. People 5 years younger than myself would mostly be unable to tell me with emotional surety where they were when they heard JFK was killed.

    i wonder if the rash of political assassinations in the 60s and 70s didn’t cause a national case of PTSD that affected how we as a nation saw ourselves and our world.

    if so.. i hope we are in recovery

    getting while the getting is good is no way to re-build a nation

    #783239

    DBP
    Member

    For all of our progress it seems that most people are still afraid to speak openly about some of the most important things. Especially when they feel like they could be challenged.

    I’m going to use Seattle as an example here, simply because that’s where we are right now. If we were in Kansas, the terms I use below would be different. In any event, Seattle being Seattle, I don’t think I need to prove that social conservatives are a “minority” here, do I? –Bueno.

    Now then . . . In a liberal place like this, it’s quite difficult for anyone to “come out” against gay marriage, abortion, affirmative action, and so on. Why? Because as soon as he does, he knows he’s going to get called a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, and several other things which I daren’t repeat.

    And then the audience is going to go like this:

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    Don’t believe me? Here’s a test. How many of you, when you read the line above and imagined someone speaking out against gay marriage . . . how many of you thought: Well of course that person is going to be called a homophobe . . . because he IS one!

    –I rest my case.

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    It’s odd, because whenever someone calls someone else a name, what that’s really about is not hatred. It’s about fear.

    Not fear of The Other, mind you.

    Fear of the self.

    Huh?

    Yeah. When you apply a label to someone, what that really shows is that you are afraid to challenge your own assumptions – because you know that if you do challenge them, you might end up having to change your whole worldview.

    And that’s fuggin’ hard.

    #783240

    JoB
    Participant

    so DBP

    would a person who hates gays still be homophobic if i didn’t call them a homophobe?

    this it’s all about your perceptions thing works really well until you are the one facing sexual or religious or racial discrimination…

    then you realize that it isn’t so much about you as it is about them.

    it will affect your opportunities no matter how well you adjust your thinking about their discrimination :(

    #783241

    JoB
    Participant

    i forgot ageism. how could i forget ageism?

    #783242

    meg
    Member

    whoa DBP, the end of your #6 is deep, bro.

    Fear of Self=Fear of Happiness=Fear of Not-Being-Special

    I love this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmEvwN6o8w

    #783243

    dobro
    Participant

    That is a good video. I like his attitude.

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