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October 30, 2012 at 12:57 pm #775294
JanSParticipantBullcrap, Kman, bullcrap. If Congress had done it’s elected job, so many things would be different. I kn ow I didn;t send them there to bring one man down. The House, and some select senators decided that was job #1, and the country bedamned. They were wrong, wrong, wrong, and deserve to be voted out. But voters like you have blinders on…you just sit on the sidelines, bitch a lot, and cheer when Obama is obstructed once again.
October 30, 2012 at 1:38 pm #775295
miwsParticipantHell yea JoB.. I have put hunting dogs in the back of trucks…
Proud of that, are ya?
Mike
October 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm #775296
miwsParticipantOh, and kootch, I asked this elsewhere, but perhaps you missed it.
Why did you not vote for the 2008 Candidate that was a War Hero.
Mike
October 30, 2012 at 3:27 pm #775297
JoBParticipantkootch..
did you let your dogs soil themselves and hose them, their crate and your vehicle off and continue down the road at hwy speeds with a wet animal exposed to the wind chill … without uncrating the animal or giving a thought to the animal’s welfare?
i don’t know anyone who treats their hunting dogs so poorly.
and have you given a thought as to why a regularly crated dog would become so upset as to soil their crate?
that’s abuse kootch.
But beyond that… why on earth would we put the welfare of the American people in the hands of man who had so little concern for the welfare of his family pet?
Mitt’s priorities bother me a lot kootch.
In this case he prioritized his plan over the welfare of those his plan was meant to accommodate.
His decisions as a Bishop when they related to women prioritized his convictions over the life and welfare of the woman he was counseling and that of her family.
His campaign statements follow the same pattern.
His priorities could well be deadly for our most vulnerable citizens.
October 30, 2012 at 3:29 pm #775298
JoBParticipantkootch..
“They are harvesting the bumper crop of opportunity”
that bumper crop of opportunity still doesn’t produce equal pay for equally credentialed and experienced women.
You wouldn’t consider that bumper crop opportunity if the shoe was on the other foot, would you?
October 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm #775299
miwsParticipantOh, and before anyone posts here thinking “It’s no big deal” to let dogs ride in the back of an open pick-up truck; many years ago, a buddy and I witnessed a dog jump/fall out of a pick up truck.
As I recall, the truck was moving, though fortunately slowly.
After hitting the ground, the scared dog took off running, leaving a noticeable wet spot on the road. It, presumably, literally had the piss scared out of it.
And before you blurt out “That would never happen to my dog! I keep him/her tightly secured!“
Bull!
You never know what might happen….
Mike
October 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm #775300
DBPMemberOctober 30, 2012 at 11:18 pm #775301
kootchmanMemberYep I have put labradors in the back of the truck after a morning of duck hunting. Didn’t have to hose them down.. they were already soaking wet. Ya think we put 4 wet dogs in the cab for the ride home? Good grief.
http://www.800toolbox.com/kennel/kennel.htm
Yes they do JoB and you have seen the DOL statistics.. that say this is so. Ya keep chewing on the same persecuted bone… but since half of the sisterhood has found out differently, they are voting for Romney. The DOL has said it… in every way imaginable… the disparity in income comes with the choice to raise kids. It’s a financial sacrifice. Just won’t read those stats will ya? See? ya fit the Hussein demographic.
“Most economists believe the gap between women’s and men’s wages does not stem primarily from employers paying women less than men for the same job. It occurs mostly because men and women take different jobs and follow different career paths.”
Teasing out pay discrimination is tough because many attributes and behaviors may account for differences in pay. Women choose different educational paths than men. Female engineers earn considerably more than female educators straight out of college. Nonetheless, women account for only 18 percent of engineering majors versus 79 percent of education majors, according to a study by the American Association of University Women
Female doctors are more likely to be pediatricians than higher-paid cardiologists. They are more likely to work part time. And even those working full time put in 7 percent fewer hours a week than men. They are also much more likely to take extended leaves, most often to give birth and start a family.
But outright sex discrimination has declined sharply, most economists agree. Today, women’s career choices — constrained by the burdens of motherhood and family — account for most of the pay gap between women and men.
After accounting for a number of differences, from grades to course choices, the economists concluded that women’s pay deficit was almost entirely because they interrupted their careers more often and tended to work fewer hours. The rest was mostly explained by career choices: for instance, more women worked at nonprofits, which pay less. (NY Times, Eduardo Porter, Economy)
See… ? But never let facts, research, data get in the way of a good spin. We have had the Equal Pay Act for over 50 years… we are not opening the door for trial lawyers to harass and file frivilous lawsuits.. tell me JoB is there no limit to the burdens you would have business carry? Become an engineer.. and work in the private sector, get your MBA from Wharton… smal things like that.
October 30, 2012 at 11:50 pm #775302
kootchmanMemberJan.. there was a documented moment… when Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, McConnel, Boehner, all went in for their “first” budget meeting with Obama. The republicans had their researched “wish list”.. the more often wrong than right, confrontation endorsed by Axelrod was on full display. Obama told Cantor “elections have consequences, and your lost”… negotiations died right there. THEN McConnoll mad his statement, our number one job is to defeat Obama. We saw the color of his feathers.. You may have voted for arrogant imperialism…and the cudgel of an absolute majority.. but the rest of your fellow citizens saw the handwriting.. and as soon as they were able… the next congressional election… they took away his scepter. Next, we take his throne.
October 31, 2012 at 12:31 am #775303
JanSParticipantLOLOLOLOL…everything is always Obama’s fault. McConnell and Boehner, etc. never do anything wrong. They didn’t have to be 3 years old and respond like they did. They needed to choke down being dressed down by the president and get on with running the country, not damned political maneuvers, and that’s what the last 2 years have been.
I’m not buying your premise…sorry..
October 31, 2012 at 2:07 am #775304
kootchmanMemberObama ain’t got the juice to “dress down” US Congresmen and US Senators… his petulant little child act was seen for what it was. The American people saw it too. If you want to cast your net of blame.. that would be the American public.. who sent them to congress..in a landslide, that would be a mandate.. that’s what landslides are.. to bring him and his fellow Democrats to a dead stop. Still, as required by law.. republican submit their budgets.. and Democrats won’t. The don’t have the brass to do what we all know is inevitable. Severe spending cuts. This one was on Obama… given his total inexperience and naivity… he needed mature, practical, staff. He got Axelrod and the current sinking is quicksand Rahm Emanuel… have you ever seen a city tank as fast fiscally? The president got dressed down, by the American public and the spanking ain’t over.
October 31, 2012 at 3:03 am #775305
JoBParticipantkootch..
“the disparity in income comes with the choice to raise kids. It’s a financial sacrifice.”
tell that to career women who have chosen not to have children but are still penalized financially because it is possible they could…
i am sure that argument will be more effective if the GOP manages to make birth control nearly impossible to obtain…
and i am equally sure that is the rationale behind denying women birth control
as a rationalization, it works.
but it doesn’t qualify as a reason.
October 31, 2012 at 3:05 am #775306
JoBParticipantkootch..
“Obama ain’t got the juice to “dress down” US Congresmen and US Senators..”
psst.. i don’t know how to tell you this dude
but the juice comes with his job…
they don’t call him commander in chief for nothing
you can choose to disrespect the office and the man
but that doesn’t change his job description
or his responsibilities to this nation
October 31, 2012 at 7:42 am #775307
kootchmanMemberYea.. but congress isn’t in the chain of command. .he ain’t nuthin’ but another citizen. Those are co=equal branches of government… he should address them as Senator, Mr. Speaker, etc… his juice as CIC doesn’t extend outside the military. That’s the only place he gets a pass.
October 31, 2012 at 8:09 am #775308
JanSParticipantbullcrap!
October 31, 2012 at 11:46 am #775309
kootchmanMemberJust a citizen with a four year job contract.
October 31, 2012 at 12:18 pm #775310
JoBParticipantkootch
“he ain’t nuthin’ but another citizen.”
looks like i called it right on your disrespect for the office.
As much as i loathed what Bush Jr did to our nation,
i respected the office he held.
The lack of respect shown to the office by those who support Romney is perhaps the greatest indicator of the real differences between out parties.
who was it on your side who said that it doesn’t matter who we find to fill the office.. any warm body will do?
October 31, 2012 at 5:26 pm #775311
DBPMemberOctober 31, 2012 at 6:08 pm #775312
365StairsParticipantI would post a picture of the Grand Canyon if I knew how…but you likely get the point…
We likely need a Wallinda or a Kinevil in the White House to cross the great chasm that is our country today.
The issues are mighty. The discussions are hard.
The decisions are made harder without finding common ground.
There is little evidence of compromise and I worry more and more each day.
Why does it take major disasters to unify us…even for brief times?
We, as a country cannot so entrenched in our political beliefs anymore and dismiss compromise.
We cannot afford the cost to build the bridge accross this great and growing canyon. It is a hard & difficult journey…but like all those that came before us…we must walk down that steep path and meet in the valley. We will learn and mix together and join up to climb back up the path to the other side.
My dream
October 31, 2012 at 6:46 pm #775313
JoBParticipant365stairs
“The decisions are made harder without finding common ground.”
i would posit that we are already on common ground but that the current winner takes all attitude of some fails to recognize.
Obamacare was the republican solution before it was proposed by a democrat.
October 31, 2012 at 9:00 pm #775314
kootchmanMemberBut.. we have seen it at work now.. in an experimental zone. It’s not ready to go national. The winner take all eh? Like “pass it first, then you can get to read it”… or.. the promise to pass no legislation that wasn’t posted on the internet in its entirety, including earmarks for review? Well I guess Obama was right…elections DO have consequences. Methinks we don’t want to walk up the canyon or cross the bridge with half of the country anymore. The office.. we respect, not the current occupant.
October 31, 2012 at 10:46 pm #775315
miwsParticipantNovember 1, 2012 at 12:43 am #775316
JoBParticipantkootch
“Yep I have put labradors in the back of the truck after a morning of duck hunting. Didn’t have to hose them down.. they were already soaking wet. Ya think we put 4 wet dogs in the cab for the ride home? Good grief.”
do ya duck hunt on the interstate?
good grief!
There is a huge difference between putting a well exercised wet dog in a kennel in the back of a truck and drying them off in the slow lane before heading out onto the interstate ..
and putting the excited family pet in a crate on the top of the car.. heading immediately to the interstate and driving so far that the dog has no choice but to relieve themselves in the kennel…
and when they do.. hosing them down and heading right out onto the interstate without giving the dog the potty break it so desperately needed.
why do i repeatedly have to point out to you that one of these things is not like the other?
you would think you would begin to figure this out for yourself by now.
November 1, 2012 at 12:48 am #775317
JoBParticipantkootch…
“Methinks we don’t want to walk up the canyon or cross the bridge with half of the country anymore.”
at the rosiest of predictions for your side kootch… you will be crossing the bridge and walking up the canyon with half or less of the country…
that doesn’t bother you. Not being the half who feels they have winners rights to the election is what bothers you.
“The office.. we respect, not the current occupant.”
No kootch.. your respect of the office seems to be contigent upon who in in office…
and that is not the same thing as respecting the office..
if you respected the office your side wouldn’t be raging against Governor Christie for thanking the President of the United States for expediting their state of national emergency and making sure that relief efforts were focused where they were most needed.
Thank you Mr President…
it really is too bad those words couldn’t be said to George Jr when a similar disaster struck on his watch, isn’t it.
November 1, 2012 at 5:26 pm #775318
DBPMemberThe art of losing isn’t hard to master;
so many things seem filled with the intent
to be lost that their loss is no disaster.
Lose something every day. Accept the fluster
of lost door keys, the hour badly spent.
The art of losing isn’t hard to master.
Then practice losing farther, losing faster:
places, and names, and where it was you meant
to travel. None of these will bring disaster.
I lost my mother’s watch. And look! my last, or
next-to-last, of three loved houses went.
The art of losing isn’t hard to master.
I lost two cities, lovely ones. And, vaster,
some realms I owned, two rivers, a continent.
I miss them, but it wasn’t a disaster.
–Even losing you (the joking voice, a gesture
I love) I shan’t have lied. It’s evident
the art of losing’s not too hard to master
though it may look like (Write it!) like disaster.
–Elizabeth Bishop
“One Art”
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