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  • #601871

    JanS
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    if you’re stuck at home on Wednesday because of snow…and you’re surfing the web, and think there’s something wrong…read this…

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2012/01/16/why-your-favorite-websites-are-going-black-wednesday/

    #745259

    Diane
    Participant

    well if the forecasts are correct, those protesters in SLU and Westlake are gonna be buried in snow

    ~

    Craig’s List put up this warning a few days ago; I’m praying they don’t go dark, since it’s main source of job ads; otoh, if no one can get into work due to snow, guess they won’t be placing job ads anyway

    #745260

    Diane
    Participant

    this is posted at top of Craig’s List:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★

    STOP SOPA & PIPA

    HR3261 & S968 are

    threatening CL and

    the rest of your

    Internet. Most of

    the web sites you use

    strongly oppose these

    bills. Find out why, and

    how you can help put

    a stop to this madness

    before it’s too late!

    ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★

    ~

    with this link:

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/SOPA

    #745261

    JanS
    Participant

    if these sites go black, I think it’s just for the day, so it won’t be a huge impact as far as longevity…but I’m betting people will be annoyed…

    #745262

    sbre
    Participant

    As one with rental properties I almost solely use Craigslist to get the word out, as well as to sell items from time to time.

    If they were to be shut-down for any length of time then my bottom line would certainly be affected.

    #745263

    WSB
    Keymaster

    We support the effort to fight these bills but cannot go dark for obvious reasons. – TR

    #745264

    ezzomr191
    Participant

    I have to agree with sbre on this one, as a person counting on CL to help find employment, ANY down time is bad.

    #745265

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    The protest is on. Check out Wikipedia.

    #745266

    Diane
    Participant

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/

    opening page now blacked out with this: (fortunately can still click through to main site)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    STOP PIPA (Senate 968) & SOPA (HR 3261)

    Imagine a world without craigslist, Wikipedia, Google, [your favorite sites here]…

    News Corp, RIAA, MPAA, Nike, Sony, Comcast, VISA & others want to make that world your reality.

    80 Members of Congress are in their sway, 30 against, the rest undecided or undeclared.

    ★ ★ ★ Please take a minute to tell your Members of Congress you OPPOSE PIPA & SOPA ★ ★ ★

    CLICK HERE for MORE INFO & EASY ACTION ITEMS

    PS: corporate paymasters, KEEP THOSE CLAMMY HANDS OFF THE INTERNET!

    ☮ seattle-tacoma craigslist ☮

    #745267

    redblack
    Participant

    check out google’s logo for today, for that matter. most people go through google to get to wikipedia and anywhere else, and it’s great that they’re on-board.

    the politics of this legislation is weird, too. ron wyden – the pot-smoking hippy senator from oregon – is sponsoring this big-business-friendly legislation in the senate, and the tea party millionaires are against it.

    go figure.

    #745268

    redblack
    Participant

    sbre and ezzomr191: exactly why you should call patty murray and maria cantwell, tell them you are opposed to these bills, and urge them to vote in your interest.

    capitol hill switchboard: (202)225-3121

    maria cantwell: (202) 224-3441

    patty murray: (202) 224-2621

    if you can’t afford the long distance charges, the switchboard has toll-free numbers, but these evidently change a lot. so they may not be current.

    866-338-1015

    877-851-6437

    877-210-5351

    edit:

    just to be clear, when you talk to cantwell and murray’s offices…

    PIPA (protect intellectual property act) is senate bill 968. first procedural vote is scheduled for 1/24/12.

    SOPA (stop online piracy act) is house bill HR 3261. according to CBS and wapo, it’s been tabled for now. no votes scheduled.

    and it appears that politics are making even stranger bedfellows over these bills. AFL-CIO supports SOPA, as does the U.S. chamber of commerce and big pharma.

    gotta get ahold of richard trumka and ask him what the hell he’s thinking. i know the actors’ guilds and such have an interest in protecting intellectual property, but this ain’t the way to do it.

    #745269

    sbre
    Participant

    redblack~thanks so much for that info.

    I had already planned on letting my voice be heard today and you just made it a lot easier for me and others.

    Thanks dude/dudette!!!

    #745270

    dawsonct
    Participant

    Cantwell is already on record opposing SOPA and PIPA, Murray hasn’t indicated which way she would vote. I haven’t been able to track down any info on our various and sundry Reps.

    How about THIS for a good law to follow: if you don’t want to give it away for free and for it to eventually be available to every internet user in the whole World, don’t post it on the internet. Problem solved, civil liberties protected.

    #745271

    redblack
    Participant

    no problem. gotta check on “baghdad” jim mcdermott, too. not entirely sure i can take his vote for granted this time.

    jim mcdermott:

    seattle (206)553-7170

    DC (202)225-3106

    i wanted to post murray and cantwell’s local office numbers, too, but the senate’s site is really slow for me today.

    in fact, internet in general is a bit laggy today. i wonder if it has anything to do with the voluntary blackout.

    #745272

    365Stairs
    Participant

    Anyone contact Al Gore to see if he gave his permission?

    #745273

    miws
    Participant
    #745274

    redblack
    Participant

    well, it worked – for now. good job, people!

    from the washington post:

    http://tinyurl.com/7ktj4od

    stay vigilant. not sure i trust the senate not to pull some late-night back room deal to get big entertainment corporations their way, playing fast and loose with freedom of expression on the internet.

    RIAA and MPAA are dinosaurs, and they need to change their ways to come to terms with technological progress – instead of trying to make the internet devolve to fit their dead business models.

    and any claims that they give a flying crap about artists and their paltry royalties are hokum. they’re more interested in big, global sales numbers and preserving lucrative, exploitative contracts.

    #745275

    JoB
    Participant

    redblack..

    me neither..

    but public opinion does matter

    even in this day and age of purchased power..

    it seems that at least in an election year our representatives do recognize that it still takes voters to get elected

    #745276

    Ken
    Participant
    #745277

    JoB
    Participant

    does anyone know much about the anti-piracy bill that our senator Maria Cantwell is promoting?

    i don’t have little grey cells enough today to go look it up and pay attention to the details.

    #745278

    redblack
    Participant

    jo: it’s called the OPEN act.

    http://internetagency.co.za/cantwell-seeks-online-piracy-law-seen-as-less-harsh-by-tech-firms/

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/248525/sopa_pipa_stalled_meet_the_open_act.html

    HR 3782, introduced wednesday, 1/18/12, by darrel issa (r-ca), who makes my skin crawl.

    the text of the bill is here, in an easier-to-read format than thomas:

    http://www.keepthewebopen.com/

    i’m still reading the text of the bill, but it seems to be less intrusive and less favorable to big money, with more due process available to anyone accused of “copyright infringement.”

    #745279

    redblack
    Participant

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