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October 10, 2008 at 1:38 am #588346
WSMomParticipantThe irony and the agony…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14436.html
McCain didn’t report ties to Contra group
“As a freshman congressman in the early 1980s, John McCain did not disclose his connections to a controversial group that was implicated in a secretive plot to supply arms to Nicaraguan militia groups during the Iran-Contra affair.
McCain did not list his service on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom on mandatory congressional disclosure forms asking about positions he held outside government.
McCain’s aides said he wasn’t required to report the affiliation.
Democrats in the past several days have seized on McCain’s ties to the U.S. Council and its founder John Singlaub to push back against the McCain campaign’s increasing focus on ties of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to Bill Ayers, a founder of the 1960s radical group Weather Underground.
McCain joined the board of the U.S. Council soon after Singlaub founded it in McCain’s adopted hometown of Phoenix in November 1981 as the U.S. branch of the World Anti-Communist League. The league billed itself as a supporter of “pro-Democratic resistance movements fighting communist totalitarianism,” but it had also been branded by critics as a haven for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
October 10, 2008 at 1:47 am #643024
WSMomParticipantlet’s not forget, homegrown America hating associations on the VP side as well…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/alaskan-independence-part_b_133261.html
“But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America’s perfection that she continues to “pal around” with a man–her husband, actually–who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska’s rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America’s land base–an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.
AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.” It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.” “
October 10, 2008 at 3:20 am #643025
CountingCoupMemberThanks for the information WSMom, it’s amazing that the Republicans are going there when in fact both Palin and McCain have such a shady record with both of these groups…
October 10, 2008 at 2:21 pm #643026
JenVMemberof course, CC – Republicans are held to a different set of standards than Democrats, remember? Sickening. More people need to be talking about this.
October 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm #643027
kParticipantthanks for posting this and please spread the news! i have been waiting for the tv folks to mention this and it hasn’t happened.
October 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm #643028
roundthesoundParticipantDoes anyone remember the Keating five? I haven’t heard anything about this during this election. I guess McCain doesn’t have a good record of disclosing things…
October 10, 2008 at 7:35 pm #643029
FranciParticipantI think I remember Obama mentioning the Keating Five during the last debate.. Anyone else remember that?
October 10, 2008 at 8:23 pm #643030
westwoodmomMemberAnd then there is McCain’s not so little involvement in the overthrow of Montenegro by the Kremlin. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman
October 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm #643031
WSMomParticipant“The story of how McCain’s closest aides and employees have been undermining his vociferously expressed opposition to Putin and Russia’s oligarchs offers a highly disturbing preview of what a McCain administration might look like. When McCain’s campaign proclaims “country first,” one has to wonder, Which country? The one with the highest bidder?”
Wow westwoodmom, this story is shocking! Thanks for the link. A friend of mine who is from Montenegro told me a few of years ago that the President of Montenegro bought the election with drug money (paying the citizens literally to vote for him) yet this same man couldn’t travel outside of the country because Interpol would arrest him on drug smuggling charges. Her assertions are mostly verified in The Nation’s article. I honestly kind of discounted my friends assertions because they seemed just too wild to be true. And now to find out that McCain’s campaign manager played a big part, absolutely amazing/horrifying.
October 10, 2008 at 9:10 pm #643032
GenHillOneParticipantI think McCain/Palin are treading on what I would call domestic terrorism with their irresponsible comments and lack of control with public; inciting racism and hate. There is bipartisan criticism surfacing and I hope SOMEONE holds their feet to the fire. It is disgusting.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.mccain10oct10,0,7557571.story
October 12, 2008 at 12:25 am #643033
WSMomParticipanthttp://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman
I urge you to read this article, even though it’s long and you’ll have to print it out in order to keep the players straight. Interestingly, Serbia is taking baby steps toward being admitted in the European Union, while the government of tiny Montenagro is more corrupt than any of us can imagine. Certainly chaos is inevitable.
“The takeover of Montenegro has been a Russian geostrategic victory–quietly accomplished, paradoxically enough, with the help of McCain and his top aides.”
“At the time, Putin wanted to establish a Russian outpost in the Mediterranean, and Montenegro–a coastal republic across the Adriatic from Italy–was seen as his best hope. McCain also lobbied for Montenegro’s independence from Serbia, calling it “the greatest European democracy project since the end of the cold war.” For McCain, the simplistic notion of “independence” from a country America had gone to war with in the late 1990s was all that mattered. What Montenegro looked like after independence seemed not to interest him.”
October 20, 2008 at 7:44 pm #643034
WSMomParticipanthttp://mediamatters.org/items/200810170018?f=h_top
“Finally, for the first time this year, a prominent media figure asked John McCain about his relationship with G. Gordon Liddy last night.
The lack of media attention to the Liddy-McCain relationship is one of the clearest double standards in recent political history. McCain and the news media have devoted an extraordinary amount of attention to Barack Obama’s ties to Bill Ayers, yet until last night, McCain hadn’t been asked a single question* about his ties to Liddy, a convicted felon who has instructed his listeners on how best to shoot law-enforcement agents. Liddy has held a fundraiser for McCain at his home and describes the Arizona senator as an “old friend”; McCain has said he is “proud” of Liddy.
Imagine for a moment that Barack Obama had said he was “proud” of an “old friend” who urged people to shoot law-enforcement agents in the head. Do you think maybe he would have been asked a question or three about it? Do you think maybe there would have been more than the occasional passing mention in the news of the relationship? Of course there would have been.
Yet McCain hasn’t been questioned about Liddy. The media have largely ignored the relationship, even while working themselves into a frenzy about Obama and Ayers. McCain’s relationship with Liddy is obviously newsworthy in its own right, but coupled with his attacks on Obama over Ayers, it’s a textbook case of hypocrisy — exactly the sort of thing that political reporters supposedly drool over. But not when it’s John McCain. When it’s John McCain, the nation’s leading news organizations band together in what is, in effect, a blackout of information that could be damaging to their longtime favorite.
Until last night, when McCain was finally asked, point-blank, about his relationship to Liddy and the similarities between that relationship and the Obama-Ayers relationship he has attacked so harshly.
Who finally asked the question? The New York Times? The Washington Post? CNN’s “best political team on television”?
Nope.
David Letterman asked McCain about Liddy, putting the nation’s journalists to shame in the process.”
So much for the “liberal media elite”, no wonder many of us get our news from Comedy Central. Thank you David Letterman!!
October 20, 2008 at 8:29 pm #643035
flipjackParticipantYeah right wingnuts love calling the media liberal…just because they feel so outnumbered.
You know why right wingnuts think the media is liberal??? It because they still mostly use big words and complete their sentences and sometimes they seem “intelligent”.
Liberal = intelligent I guess.
If they had their way everyone would talk like Georgey boy or Palin or Dan Quayle.
I’m wild about America!God Bless America!
I Love America.
October 20, 2008 at 11:48 pm #643036
JoBParticipantflipjack…
no.. wingnuts.. as you call them.. think the media is liberal because that is what they are constantly being told…
I can’t accept that half of the people in the United States are stupid and illiterate.
I think most of them are simply uninformed… and like anyone who has been duped… slow to believe it and ready to kill the messenger when they are offered proof.
You can love America while hating what it is doing in our name.
I still can’t hear the anthem without tears.
October 21, 2008 at 3:14 pm #643037
charlabobParticipant“I can’t accept that half of the people in the United States are stupid and illiterate.”
Um, why not when every day we’re pelted with counter evidence? :-)
People who would benefit from Obama’s economic policies rail against them because they seem to believe that some day they’ll be McCain and own 7 houses. Hell, McCain wouldn’t own seven houses if he hadn’t dumped wife #1 and married into them.
We can continue to call them “low information” because it is a nicer phrase than “dumb as dirt.” But, frankly, as long as we think there’s some way to educate them out of their folly, we’ll just feel guilty about something we can’t hope to do. The information is there — they can quite easily learn. (Some don’t want to — some are scared off by words like “socialism” and “terrorist”.)
I love America(sic) more than words can say. Else I would have been long gone. But, I have to say, right now I don’t particularly love all Americans(sic).
October 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm #643038
JanSParticipanthear, hear !!
October 21, 2008 at 9:36 pm #643039
JoBParticipantcharlabob…
i have been trying to educate one of those who should know better.. who is intelligent and has the capacity for logical thinking…
but today I gave up my personal struggle with someone who just doesn’t want to hear.
i understand why he doesn’t want to hear and that doesn’t make it any easier.
It is wrong to assume these are stupid people.. some of them are.. but many of them are indoctrinated people and have too much investment in being right to even allow themselves to read something which might challenge their worldview.
today, i am very discouraged…
and not at all proud to be associated with the bigotry and racism is see masked as moral indignation from some Americans.
If Sarah Palin is an example of christian behavior.. i am not to proud to be christian today either.
thank god tomorrow is another day.
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