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January 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm #606235
bsmommaParticipantHello!! I am looking to find some health insurance. We’re a small family business. We don’t visit the doctor often AT ALL! But it would be nice to get a check up and have piece if mind. :) Any recommendations?????
January 14, 2013 at 7:32 pm #782922
luckymom30ParticipantScroll to Washington State listings there are several insurance plans and companies listed
January 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm #782923
jissyParticipantTry Ashley @ 206-933-0100, think he has plans for individuals and seniors.
January 15, 2013 at 4:15 am #782924
hammerheadParticipantGood luck it is all very expensive. Mine just went up 100.00 per month. I have an average deductible, but the higher the deductible the lower the monthly rate. I have lifewise, to me there really is no difference in coverages.
I do have AFFLAC as a back up since I am self employed as I can not get L and I.
Good luck
HH
January 15, 2013 at 8:18 pm #782925
hooper1961Membergroup health high deductible plan is what I use. runs about $420/month and includes some dental.
January 16, 2013 at 5:22 pm #782926
JoBParticipantand do you provide that to your employees hoop?
because that sounds like a group rate to me
January 16, 2013 at 5:27 pm #782927
kgdlgParticipantI believe hoop has volunteered in earlier posts that he pays his employees $16-17 an hour with PTO benefits, no healthcare. He contends that there are “afforadable” options in the market for his employees.
Hoop, correct?
January 16, 2013 at 6:15 pm #782928
hooper1961Membercurrently I have one employee that I pay for their health insurance. the other employee is part time as needed and i do not pay for their health insurance.
January 16, 2013 at 6:20 pm #782929
JoBParticipantahhh.. then the rate you quote as an individual rate is actually a negotiated rate available to business groups?
January 17, 2013 at 3:24 am #782930
hooper1961Memberno i did not go through any business group. i use Group Health high deductible plan
January 17, 2013 at 5:15 am #782931
JoBParticipanthoop..
you use group health high deductible plan for individuals …
that is a plan that is sold on the open market to any individual who applies for it?
oh wait.. silly me..
a high deductible health insurance plan that is sold to any individual who applies for it doesn’t exist until the no pre-existing conditions exclusion kicks in on Obamacare… does it?
January 17, 2013 at 5:37 am #782932
hooper1961MemberI applied for the high deductible plan by Group Health and was accepted. So yes High Deductible Plans do exist for individuals and families.
i anticipate the cost of the plan i have to go up dramatically in 2014 due to obamacare (any wager on this JoB?). it already went up 14% in 2012 (I inquired and about 8% of the 14% increase was due to added mandates). is this fair?
January 17, 2013 at 3:48 pm #782933
JoBParticipanthoop..
i know high deductible plans exist…
i also know they aren’t available for everyone
and certainly not at the price you quoted..
LOL..it’s nice that the health care insurance industry has Obamacare to blame for it’s price increases…
to what do you attribute the steady increase prior to Obamacare?
January 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm #782934
hooper1961Membermy insurance price is $414/month I just wrote the premium check
insurance increases are due to general inflation and cost shifting by medical providers trying to get whole due to non paying patients.
January 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm #782935
LenaParticipantWe have a high deductible plan through Regence. $306 a month for both my husband and I. We are both middle aged. Yes, this is an individual plan. I don’t really expect it to cover anything but serious emergencies but the price is right and if something large happens we will only be out $22,000 at most.
January 17, 2013 at 4:41 pm #782936
JoBParticipanthoop..
” cost shifting by medical providers trying to get whole due to non paying patients.”
ROFLOL… and exactly how “whole” do you think they need to be hoop?
I am guessing you would feel whole at half their profit margin
especially if you could grant yourself a CEO’s salary.
January 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm #782937
JoBParticipantLena..
you do realize that $22,000 is more than some of the people who post here make in a year?
because that is $22,000 a year, isn’t it?
And do you have a premium and coverage guarantee if you end up needing that coverage?
January 17, 2013 at 5:07 pm #782938
LenaParticipantNot saying $22,000 would be easy but much better than losing our house and being in debt for the rest of our lives. Yes, I think the health care system is very sick and I would happily pay more (either in taxes or in premiums) if it meant everyone could have decent coverage.
January 18, 2013 at 1:10 am #782939
JoBParticipantLena..
i agree… even after Obamacare… it’s still broken
i think it’s time we demanded a fix
January 18, 2013 at 8:14 pm #782940
hooper1961MemberJoB
I agree with you the current system and Obamacare and the system is still broken.
The disagreement is over how to fix the system in a manner that is equitable (socializing is not equitable low risk (controllable items) people should pay less than high risk people with appropriate flattening) and makes sense.
Basic preventative procedures, inoculations et al are not the system cost drivers. The cost is a myriad of issues:
– fee for service in lieu of outcome
– bad health habits of people (smoking and cannot be said (but it is a huge driver of cost)
– over use of services by the lucky ones with generous benefits
– excess overhead at insurance companies
– people who do not pay for services provided
– and the simple issue that there are a myriad of treatments that are horrendously expensive with poor outcomes.
The above are a few items.
January 18, 2013 at 8:33 pm #782941
JoBParticipanthoop..
you keep bandying about that word equitable
i would settle for something that actually works and that we can afford…
if your health insurance was replaced by a plan that covered preventative care 100% and had a copay of say $20 for doc visits and maybe $100 for ER for the same amount you are paying right now..
would you go for it even though your premium would be called taxes?
January 19, 2013 at 2:37 am #782942
hooper1961MemberJoB – if it was basic services possibly. And then people could buy insurance for the high cost low outcome type of procedures. In other words a line would need to be drawn somewhere, basics and insurance for high cost specialty drugs and procedures et al. Also co pays for each doc visit.
Also people who do not take care of themselves should be dinged some how. Maybe add a tax to junk food and pop similar to taxes on cigarettes to help pay for the basics.
January 19, 2013 at 4:59 pm #782943
JoBParticipanthoop..
so.. even if you paid no more than what you pay today
you wouldn’t agree to anything more than basic services..
and if people needed anything more than that they would have to either be able to pay for it or die
this isn’t about money is it?
January 19, 2013 at 5:29 pm #782944
maplesyrupParticipantBack to the topic at hand…
When I needed to do this for my company I contacted a broker who found a plan through AWB. (Note I’m not endorsing AWB’s political activities.)
There are also other group negotiated plans through city business associations and trade associations. You pay a small dues fee to join and then can buy into their group plan.
I would suggest you contact a broker (it doesn’t cost you anything) and ask them to help you. I’d be happy to provide my broker’s information if you need it; she’s great.
January 20, 2013 at 7:05 pm #782945
hooper1961MemberJoB – it’s about equity and cost control. And I find it highly unlikely I will be paying no more than what I pay today in the future. Obamacare is going to raise the cost greatly due to too few cost controls and removing risk costing in insurance premiums.
And back to the topic – contact Group Health for pricing.
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