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  • #818308

    Harold
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    Please lets share the sidewalks in WS. Scene all summer outside Husky Deli / Bakery Nouveau: families blocking the sidewalk camped out with their double wide strollers, perfect children and perfect dogs all enjoying ice cream while old folks have to walk around into traffic or parked cars.

    #827260

    2 Much Whine
    Participant

    Happy families having delicious Husky Deli ice cream on a public sidewalk? How dare they! I think someone is a little lactose intolerant.

    #827261

    Franci
    Participant

    There are folks with mobility issues and its a great opportunity to teach young ones to be aware of their surroundings and to leave room for others to get by – especially in high pedestrian traffic areas.

    #827262

    JTB
    Participant

    Yes, Harold, we all get to share. Part of urban living. Happily, we’ll get to enjoy even more of it as new businesses and new residents arrive in the neighborhood. Perfect.

    Later note: It seems a number of others are bothered by the occasional congestion on the sidewalks more than I am, so I should apologize for the snark.

    #827263

    anonyme
    Participant

    There used to be some awareness around not blocking the sidewalk so that others could get by. The new generation of breeders seems to have foregone antiquated notions like respect for others. The sidewalks in the Junction really aren’t wide enough to accommodate on-sidewalk parking for double-wides and dogs. I think all Harold is asking for is a little courtesy and some awareness that a public sidewalk is not a private gathering place.

    #827264

    clulessinws
    Participant

    I agree with the fact that people need to be more aware of not blocking paths. I’ve noticed it get gradually worse over the years.

    The tables and chairs outside of businesses in the Junction reduce the width of the side walk resulting in less space to walk.

    I had issues with a business one time in a different area of WS and in reporting them to the city, they let me know that the business was out of compliance with their seating, blocking the sidewalk and street signs. I wonder if the Junction businesses have a waiver for their chairs/tables?

    #827265

    wakeflood
    Participant

    I’m going to sound like a fuddy duddy but I too have had several recent incidents with the double-wide, side by side strollers and the accompanying people/pets that don’t seem to be aware that they’re essentially a walking roadblock. Whatever pace they’re going is the pace we all need to go?

    Just looking for a little awareness. Is that so wronga? ;-)

    #827266

    JKB
    Participant

    Have any of you said anything to the sidewalk blockers? Even something nice, like “could you help me get through here”?

    #827267

    wakeflood
    Participant

    Every time. And pleasantly, I might add. It’s a habit/value I was taught as a child.

    What I chose NOT to do was to ask them to be considerate of others who are trying to use the same limited pedestrian area. Your thoughts on that decision, JKB?

    #827268

    JKB
    Participant

    Just musing on the opinion WSB threads have sometimes offered, that one should expect criticism to be met with hostility, and that it’s not appropriate.

    #827269

    miws
    Participant

    I don’t recall if it’s ever happened in the Junction, but it’s happened elsewhere, and it really could be anywhere it might happen, (grocery store aisle too!), where I say “excuse me”, and try to say it loudly enough without shouting, and if it is even heard, it’s often met with a basic look of reaction to the direction from where the voice came, and then just a token amount of movement, if any at all.

    This also happens if they already happen to see me approaching, to where I shouldn’t have to verbally alert them that I need by.

    And, this is while I’m using a cane, and often have bags in the other hand, and am very noticeably huffing and puffing.

    Mike

    #827270

    Gina
    Participant

    Courtesy and awareness of surroundings in public places is a personal safety issue. People of all ages can benefit, and many unfortunate outcomes avoided.

    #827271

    JKB
    Participant

    On the whole I’d respect the person who speaks up on the spot more than the one who just posts about later.

    And on a positive note, my own experience with people while I walked with crutches/cane was excellent. Felt stared-at a few times, and that could have just been in my own head. But people were helpful without being sappy.

    #827272

    librarian
    Member

    As a senior who has used a cane in the past, I find it very annoying to have to stop and say excuse me several times in the course of one block. The bakery is the worst spot.

    #827273

    Ms. Sparkles
    Participant

    Harold, I’m with you.

    I, being blessed with strength and no mobility issues, am able to (and frequently do) bust through such crowds hip-checking the clueless out of the way as needed. After a single loud “excuse me” if they don’t move, I move through them.

    I’m sorry you can’t do the same.

    #827274

    anonyme
    Participant

    Ms. Sparkles, your post made me laugh. I almost confessed to similar behavior earlier, but chose to avoid the inevitable indignation over such a direct, non-PNW solution. Ya know, sometimes things are just this simple…

    #827275

    JoB
    Participant

    i can still walk though i may sometimes need to find something to hang onto and i am not fast.

    but i have to tell you that an electric chair of some kind is beginning to look better all of the time.

    It would give me the heft Ms Sparkles talks about to move through crowds that refuse to move aside for those who aren’t so nimble.

    #827276

    2 Much Whine
    Participant

    I guess I need to keep my day job. I thought the “lactose intolerant” comment in reference to people eating ice cream was golden. Apparently it was just vanilla. Oh well, back to work.

    #827277

    anonyme
    Participant

    2much, the comment itself WAS golden – it’s just that hardly anyone agreed with you…:-))

    #827278

    Jeannie
    Participant

    JoB, an electric chair?! Isn’t that a little harsh? ;-)

    #827279

    JoB
    Participant

    Jeannie

    harsh? really, have you seen me walk?

    I have had handicapped plates for nearly 20 years because i am unable to walk far and if i do.. i become too confused to find my car when i get back.

    the only reason i am not in a wheelchair now is that i have been confined to one before and i fear that if i take that seat again that this time it will be permanent.

    I am one stubborn woman.

    so i am not likely to take to an electric wheelchair to clear the sidewalk.. though i can’t tell you how many times i fantasize about the ability to do so ;-)

    seriously, i think it’s pretty harsh that there is so little consideration for others that people who are mobility challenged find it difficult to safely walk our public sidewalks.. with or without their mobility devices.

    i can’t tell you how many of the smiles on the faces of sweet little old ladies and gentlemen are generated by the fantasy of using their canes to literally clear their paths…

    LOL.. best watch out. you never know when one of us will snap ;-)

    #827280

    desertdweller
    Participant

    This is a perfect post for me to share the next time someone asks me if West Seattle is friendly to people with families. Bookmarking.

    #827281

    HappyOnAlki
    Participant

    Hey JoB — I have a friend with some mobility issues, and she uses a TravelScoot when she needs to walk far — they’re little and zippy! http://travelscoot.com

    #827282

    JanS
    Participant

    oh, honey, if we all got Travelscoots, watch out. Races down Calif. Ave. for sure….lol

    #827283

    JanS
    Participant

    I, too, walk with a cane, am disabled, and go very slowly. I can’t count how many times I’ve had to move off the sidewalk into the “parking strip” for people walking either behind me 2 or three abreast talking , or coming towards me. And because I have balance issues on uneven ground (and sometimes flat, too) I usually just have to stop and move aside. It’s selfishness, ignorance, thoughtlessness, and rudeness. And yes, I have many times wanted to just stick my cane out “by accident”, right about knee level…:D

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