Poll Question- Is Repub Obstruction Intentional?

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  • #601129

    dobro
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    Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts to jumpstart the economy to insure that Barack Obama is not reelected?

    #739638

    redblack
    Participant

    yes.

    they desperately want a republican in office and an end to capital gains taxes so that they can bring their investments from failing foreign banks to the mainland without any kind of “penalties.”

    in other words, they love american consumerism, but they don’t want to pay for government assistance for american freeloaders – i.e. the poor, the sick, and the elderly.

    #739639

    JoB
    Participant

    yes,

    the saner heads in their own party have recently confirmed my suspicions :(

    #739640

    kootchman
    Member

    Thank god yes…. good money after bad is not a recovery strategy. Uh redblack?… the Democrats are on board for repatriated earnings… even The Messiah understands money over there is money invested over there.

    #739641

    JoB
    Participant

    kootch..

    and the money that comes home is invested here?

    nice fantasy .. too bad there is no reality there.

    #739642

    JanS
    Participant

    you know, you may cheer it, Kootch…but explain that to the American people who are hurting because they are doing nothing. Lack of respect for the American people, lack of respect for the president’s office, lack of respect for themselves. Or are you just flaming. You could be on the downside any time, and then what? Will you bitch about how they’re running the country when it’s harming you? They need to all be voted out…a do nothing Congress that had “In God We Trust” already on our money as the most important thing they’ve done this week. Embarrassing as a country !

    #739643

    redblack
    Participant

    yeah, kootch, but the difference is that democrats – well liberals, anyway – want to get some tax revenue out of that money when it comes home. which is the whole b.s. “regulatory uncertainty” argument again.

    #739644

    anonyme
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    It is their open, stated mission to thwart Obama in any and every way possible. No mystery, no misunderstanding.

    #739645

    Smitty
    Participant

    Yes, they disagree with the method so they are doing their job. The method that failed the first time- using twice the amount.

    Obama had the senate and the house for two years and the senate for the remaining two – blame the Republicans for the failed economy isn’t going to work. American’s are not big on leaders pointing fingers (if that is what you are getting at).

    #739646

    TDe
    Participant

    Silly me… I thought the job of Congress was to pass laws and try to better the lives of the American people. Not sit on their collective arses and fiddle while the country burns.

    #739647

    JanS
    Participant

    Smitty..jobs? jobs? the rallying cry for 2010..and how many have been created? how many things put forth by Barack Obama have the Repubs even considered compromising a little on, even just considering…not one damned thing. Have you listened to Mitch McConnell lately? Seriously? Does he give a flying fig about you and me? NO ! And, you, as an intelligent man, know this. Listening to John Boehner yesterday pretending that Grover Norquist was just a nobody turned my stomach. We are not that stoopid…although there is a lot of stoopidity going around these days.

    #739648

    JoB
    Participant

    Smitty…

    No matter how much it may look like it

    American politics is not a sporting event

    When the winner takes all

    all is your pocketbook

    that is assuming you are a middle class taxpayer.

    because when the rich get tax breaks

    and big business gets tax breaks

    we pick up the slack

    or suffer the consequences

    it’s that simple.

    So what are the republicans offering you?

    every one of their “fair” tax plans would shift more of the burden of taxation from the rich to the middle class.

    is that really what you want?

    Are you willing to take that big a hit for a home team win?

    it’s a question you should be asking.

    Believe me, I am asking the same sort of questions.

    Policies marginally better than those proposed by the Republicans aren’t enough for me to invest my personal dollars in the election.

    and i don’t buy the excuse that the republicans made me do it.

    that excuse didn’t work when i was a kid

    it didn’t work for my kids

    it doesn’t work for my grandkids

    and i am pretty sure it isn’t working for my great-grandkids

    it’s time our politicians grew up

    we pay them big bucks to govern our nation

    not to run it into bankruptcy so they can score political coup by claiming it is someone else’s fault.

    #739649

    Bostonman
    Member

    I don’t think its going to really matter. I would be amazed if he got reelected of course anything can happen. Regardless of the situation he inherited which wasn’t his fault he has barely done anything to change the tax structure or to decrease spending or to even control spending.

    Yes, the first 2 years he could have done something to adjust taxes if he tried. We might be in a better position now if he did something like that.

    Either way, I don’t want another 4 years of what he has done. I also don’t want another 4 years of 2000 to 2008.

    #739650

    HMC Rich
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    787 Billion Stimulus for “shovel ready jobs”.

    Promised unemployment would not go over 8%. How come that one didn’t work?

    Why did we need a repeat failure? 60 Billion jobs bill failed by bi-partisan vote. (which means Ben Nelson and another Democrat also said NO.)

    No budget from Mr. Reid in 3 years. How come? Don’t want a benchmark to have to think about following.

    No, failure on Obama and Dem spending policy.

    See ya

    #739651

    DBP
    Member

    Yeah, ‘bro. They’re stalling. But I think Obama will clinch it anyway, much to Boston’s amazement.

    I just wish the President would take his case directly to us — the American people — instead of spending so much of his time courting his sworn enemies.

    The way Obama and the Democratic Party have squandered their popular support is a disgrace. For contrast, look at the Repubs. After the smoke cleared, they all got a little boost from the Tea Party movement.

    And what’re the Dems getting from the Occupy movement? –Blunt force trauma.

    #739652

    Bostonman
    Member

    Well I think a lot is going to depend on the economy. If unemployment drops to 7 or 8% it looks good for him. Unfortunatly he is also dealing with something he can’t really control. A little place called Europe.

    #739653

    Smitty
    Participant

    It didn’t work the first time, so why try it again? They are simply doing their jobs. Call it whatever you want.

    #739654

    cadbury
    Participant

    They are doing part of their jobs, ok, sure. But how about ANY ideas outside of lowering taxes on corporations and the wealthy? (and making In God We Trust” some sort of corporate slogan for America does not count) Is that really all it’s going to take to turn this economy around?

    #739655

    Smitty
    Participant

    I betcha they would vote to get rid of Obamacare regulations that are hindering business’ from hiring if it came to a vote. You?

    #739656

    cadbury
    Participant

    They sure would repeal universal healthcare, but it’s a fallacy that it’s hindering hiring.

    That’s also not really a new idea. Going back to how things were when the recession started isn’t a great plan.

    #739657

    JanS
    Participant

    tell me exactly what hiring has been hindered. If you’re going to put it out there, please give an example. Thanks.

    #739658

    kootchman
    Member

    I have heard from not one single business that says Obamacare is not going to hurt. Look to Greece. 27% of the population works for government. It is a bankrupt country. It got there in short simple steps. Step one. Appease the population with all manner of benefit. 2. Borrow like crazy to pay for them. 3. Tax until the private sector is bled to death and the capitalists flee the country to reside in safe havens. Refuse to recognize the depths of the crisis and of course never look inwards. We have two classes of governance, those that accept bribes and those that bribe. We have crossed the line where dependency is now the normative citizen. We know how they will vote. The will vote to continue their status. We have seem this all before. The next question from WSO should be.. if this is such a massive fraud, how come this administration and DOJ has prosecuted ZERO “Wall Street” types? Not one. Let’s see if the Obama reelection committee returns that 500K Corizon bundled up for Obama. I love in the midst of Europe falling apart with unsustainable social programs. there are still chirps out there that “the top twenty industrialized nations have it, except us”… yea and more than half are bankrupt. As bad as it is.. we are still in better shape than Europe..for now. You keep throwing trillions of more debt and we will catch up.

    #739659

    cadbury
    Participant

    Wow. Where does one start?

    Have you heard of one business that said, gee I would really start hiring if only that obamacare would go away? Really?

    The governments and economies of Greece and the US have very little in common. Not worth bringing up over and over again.

    No one is in any danger of being bled to death by taxes here. Not even close

    And no, we have not crossed any line into dependency. Providing accessible affordable healthcare is hardly some over the top benefit. It is common decency and exactly the type of thing a government should provide. And every other indurialized country on earth agrees, excep south Africa.

    And yes, I agree we need to get all lobbying money out of politics. Right now.

    #739660

    JanS
    Participant

    cadbury…I agree. I want the proof. I want a company that hasn’t hired because of “Obamacare”…Damn, I hate that name. It’s not even healthcare. It’s disease care. I digress. If that claim is going to be made, I want the names of the companies that haven’t hired because of it. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask for names as proof. If they can’t be named, they’re all just talking through their hats. Names, folks, names !

    #739661

    Smitty
    Participant

    “Have you heard of one business that said, gee I would really start hiring if only that obamacare would go away? Really?”

    Yes, really.

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