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March 30, 2014 at 7:16 pm #610865
Alki WarriorParticipantThank gawd for Obamacare. I was let go from my job two and half years ago. I haven’t had any medical coverage for a long time and need to get some issues taken care of soon. I live with my girlfriend who has a great job and has been taking care of all the household bills. If it weren’t for her, I’d be sleeping on the streets. We’ve been dating now for over four years here in Seattle. We met on Alki Beach. I help by taking care of the dogs and do the cooking now. We go out twice a week but she has to take care of the tab since I have no income. Yeah.. times have changed but our love for each other hasn’t. My first doctor appointment since getting on Obamacare is middle of next month. It will be a physical since I haven’t had one in ten years. I will be seeing a new physician now. I hope I don’t need surgery in that place that constantly hurts. Anyone else got Obamacare now?
March 30, 2014 at 7:55 pm #806277
datamuseParticipantI’m still going through my employer, but a teacher and mentor of mine was finally able to get a colonoscopy last month that she had previously been unable to afford. The doctor detected early stages of a very aggressive form of cancer. By the time she’d shown symptoms, it likely would’ve been too late.
Obamacare saved her life.
March 30, 2014 at 8:36 pm #806278
dobroParticipantYou realize, of course, that Obamacare is paid for with tax money.
March 30, 2014 at 9:28 pm #806279
KatherineLParticipantdobro, so are roads and bridges.
March 30, 2014 at 9:37 pm #806280
angelescrestParticipantI don’t have Obamacare (as I have healthcare through my employer), but now I can breathe. I have a “Plan B”. Should I need to quit my job to take care of my child, we can both be insured.
March 30, 2014 at 11:44 pm #806281
thansenMemberdobro, as are fire stations, EMT, 911, police, libraries, post offices, schools, parks, waterways, to name a few. ALL things we get for paying taxes. And now, THANKFULLY the people who need healthcare can LIVE.
What a bunch a evil takers we for wanting to be safe, health and happy.
March 30, 2014 at 11:45 pm #806282
JanSParticipantI am 67, so on Medicare, with a Medicaid backup, so it didn’t apply to me. However, I have a friend, a fellow massage therapist, self-employed , and insurance-less for many years (as self-employed massage therapists tend to be). He recently became insured, and will have surgery on May 01 for a deviated septum, which has plagued him for 10 years. He’s ecstatic about it.
March 30, 2014 at 11:56 pm #806283
KevinParticipantUnemployed at the moment – “Obamacare” dropped my monthly healthcare premium from $900 to $450!
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Thank you Obama!
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March 31, 2014 at 12:12 am #806284
JanSParticipantok…here’s the thing. This so called “extension” is exactly what dobro said. You sign up by the deadline, and they will give you 2 weeks more to make the right decision for you (and your family) with no penalty.
People can still sign up after the deadline, but they will have to pay a penalty. The deadline doesn’t mean that you can never ever sign up again.
Those with an agenda against the ACA will give misinformation every time, just to make it look bad. We aren’t as stupid and naive as people think :-
March 31, 2014 at 1:09 am #806285
Alki WarriorParticipantWhat was the reason why they extended the deadline anyways? Aren’t they breaking their own law by extending it? Why have a deadline in the first place?
March 31, 2014 at 1:15 am #806286
miwsParticipantI read somewhere just today, probably on Facebook, that the “Extension” is more analogous to being able to still vote after 8:00 pm, as long as you were in line before then.
Mike
March 31, 2014 at 1:18 am #806287
miwsParticipantOkay, so it was right here on the Forums:
https://westseattleblog.com/forum/topic/the-acaand-the-house-of-reps#post-1009286
I forgot about the other current ACA Thread! ;-)
Mike
March 31, 2014 at 1:37 am #806288
SmittyParticipantLet’s please all be CLEAR about the extension please.
All you have to do is check a box claiming that you “tried” to sign up before March-31 but were unable to finish. It is 100% on the honor system as described in the link below.
“This method will rely on an honor system; the government will not try to determine whether the person is telling the truth.”
It is nowhere near the same thing as waiting in line to vote….
With the additional 2 weeks they WILL hit 7 million, they have done the math. And, you will all be on here still talking about how the last ~800K were “in line”.
March 31, 2014 at 2:32 am #806289
JoBParticipantSmitty..
are you trying to tell me that 800 thousand people who now have health insurance is a bad thing?
March 31, 2014 at 2:55 am #806290
SmittyParticipantMarch 31, 2014 at 3:07 am #806291
SmittyParticipantAlki, there is a deadline so that people sign up rather than wait until they fall down the stairs (or get diagnosed with cancer, etc) to sign up. It would never work if that were allowed.
The “pre-existing conditions” portion is only applicable until the sign up date.
March 31, 2014 at 7:10 am #806292
dobroParticipant“All you have to do is check a box claiming that you “tried” to sign up before March-31 but were unable to finish. It is 100% on the honor system as described in the link below.”
Why is that a problem? The idea is to sign people up for healthcare, not conduct an audit on everyone who does so. So the truth is, it is exactly the same as waiting in line to vote, but you don’t like this “honor system” thing so, for you, that somehow delegitimizes it.
From your article…
“The whole point of the thing is to get people covered,” said Jon Kingsdale, a health-care consultant and former director of Massachusetts’s insurance exchange, which was the first in the country, opening several years before the federal law set up a similar national marketplace. “In the first year, there has been so much confusion, I think it’s only natural there will be people who just don’t feel as if they fully understood what the law was and what they were supposed to do and that the opportunity would close.”
PS- my comment about Obamacare being paid for by taxes was a little joke referring to AlkiWarriors disdain for paying taxes in another thread.
March 31, 2014 at 3:26 pm #806293
JoBParticipantSmitty..
the only context in which allowing a grace period for an extension is a bad thing is the political context…
because no matter how you look at it.. making it possible for americans to get insurance so that we the people no longer pay their medical bills the most expensive way possible through emergency room care is a good thing for we the taxpayers.
we have been picking up the double whammy tab.. direct costs through our taxes and then paying again through increased insurance premiums justified by the inflated costs of the high use of emergency room care
it’s not so good for the healthcare and health insurance industry who were making a tidy profit on the mark-up for all of those services…
but there you go.
funny.. none of the propaganda mentions that.
March 31, 2014 at 4:16 pm #806294
skeeterParticipant“Fire stations, EMT, 911, police, libraries, post offices, schools, parks, waterways.”
Of course taxes pay for all these things. These are public services that benefit us all.
The ACA expanded Medicaid. Millions of additional people now qualify for medical care. It is paid for by a tax increase on wealthier Americans. But unlike fire stations, EMT, 911, etc that benefit us all, the increased Medicaid coverage is not for everyone – only poorer Americans.
I think it’s unfair that we all pay taxes, yet only some get free medical care. I think ALL Americans should get free medical care. Just like all Americans can use the library and post office and parks.
March 31, 2014 at 4:34 pm #806295
JoBParticipantskeeter..
what part of you are already paying for medical care for the indigent don’t you get?
that which is not covered by taxes in the emergency room is added to the operating costs of medical institutions along with a healthy surcharge for profit.. and that amount is added into the costs for medical insurance.. along with another healthy surcharge for profit…
even when the goverment picks up the emergency room tab.. the costs are added into the operating costs of medical institutions .. and then compounded by medical insurance companies.
Don’t you think paying once for medical care in the least expensive way possible is smarter than paying repeatedly for it in the most expensive way possible?
there is a bigger picture here..
and it’s clear that you aren’t seeing it.
March 31, 2014 at 4:35 pm #806296
JoBParticipantbtw skeeter..
i agree with you. single payer is the most cost efficient delivery method for health care…
and was not even invited to the table by either political party when health care reform was being discussed.
what’s up with that?
March 31, 2014 at 4:49 pm #806297
dobroParticipant“I think ALL Americans should get free medical care.”
In reality world, nobody gets free medical care. Somebody pays for any medical care that someone receives. What would make sense is a single payer system in which we all pay for it, everyone is covered, and allowances are made for the poor and indigent. You know, kind of like most of the other countries in the Western world.
March 31, 2014 at 4:50 pm #806298
skeeterParticipant“What part of you are already paying for medical care for the indigent don’t you get?”
I agree that indigent get medical care and the cost is ultimately paid by the rest of society. Please tell me what part of my post suggests otherwise.
“there is a bigger picture here..
and it’s clear that you aren’t seeing it.”
What part of my post suggests that I am not seeing the bigger picture? Please be specific and tell me what part of my post is narrow-sighted and lacks understanding.
March 31, 2014 at 5:03 pm #806299
skeeterParticipant“In reality world, nobody gets free medical care. Somebody pays for any medical care that someone receives.”
I agree that somebody is paying. But I don’t think it is incorrect to call it “free.” From the perspective of the user, there is no cost. I would compare it to publicly-funded grade school. Yes, it costs money to run a school. But the school is free for those who use it.
I think all Americans should get free healthcare. It doesn’t matter if you are young or old, rich or poor. It should be free. Just like calling 911 or using a playground at Lincoln Park.
March 31, 2014 at 8:15 pm #806300
dobroParticipant“I think all Americans should get free healthcare. It doesn’t matter if you are young or old, rich or poor. It should be free. Just like calling 911 or using a playground at Lincoln Park.”
Specifically, the part of your post that lacks understanding is this.911 is not free. Lincoln Park is not free. They are paid for by taxes. Maybe you’re just playing a semantic game, but the thing that is free in these cases is access. We are all free to call 911. We are all free to go to the park. And, I agree, we should all be free to have access to health care. But these things themselves have to be paid for and if we all get to use them they should be paid for by our tax revenue.
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