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December 18, 2014 at 6:15 am #816351
I am so sick and tired of seeing smokers smoking in Lincoln Park especially on the benches at the North End of the park.
Is there a law about prohibiting smoking in the park?
Worst still they throw the butts on the ground.
Please stop!! I hate the smell of the stinky cigarettes.December 18, 2014 at 10:20 am #820178
It’s a public park…there is no ban that I know of. Yes, I dislike smoking, but…it’s not illegal unless in a building, etc., I’m thinking…December 18, 2014 at 7:38 pm #820179
NYC outlawed public smoking in Central Park.
Here is Seattle Park’s Code of Conduct:
“No smoking within 25 feet of other patrons in Seattle parks and play areas, beaches, playgrounds, picnic areas, and buildings (code 3.2.10).”
Probably a tough one to enforce, but there you go.December 18, 2014 at 7:46 pm #820180December 18, 2014 at 10:13 pm #820181
Seattle is really good at passing feel-good laws that are completely unenforceable, or are simply ignored. Originally all smoking was to be banned in parks, but later the 25 ft. clause was added (purposely, I think) to render the law useless.
My hat goes off to New York. They’ve passed a lot of gutsy laws recently, including speed reductions, smoking bans, and just this week passed a ban on fracking in NY state. It would be nice if Washington grew a pair.December 19, 2014 at 2:54 am #820182
If they can put signs about the SealSitters and Doggie Leash, why not a Non Smoking sign on the beach?December 19, 2014 at 3:32 am #820183
What about a sign that bans complaining while on park property?December 19, 2014 at 4:02 am #820184
I’m sure a “no smoking on the beach” sign would be about as effective as the existing signs are.December 19, 2014 at 4:04 am #820185
Are we talking about cigarettes? cause the other burning herb would probably be “just fine”
anonyme-well put.December 19, 2014 at 4:58 am #820186December 19, 2014 at 6:59 am #820187
Transplantella! Awesome response. A big LIKE if I could.
Maybe we should have the city have dog and smoking sanctuaries in these parks?
How about more signs to people about using horrible language in public every third word like F-bomb – Shirt – N-word etc. I was at the YMCA yesterday and the future of America could not literally say three words without some colorful word vomiting from their mouths. I covered my 8 year olds ears it was so bad. I don’t get that much bad language at Delridge skate park.December 19, 2014 at 3:52 pm #820188
Maybe I’m starting to finally get cranky but I really would rather have all the signs for everything come down. Signs aren’t effective. Enforcement is.
I for one don’t care if someone smokes anything outside. It’s OUTSIDE!
Rant over :)December 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm #820189December 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm #820190
Half the people I know smoke. No one I know smokes inside though. I agree the smell is disgusting. Outside you smell it for a few minutes and it’s gone. It’s not a big deal to me at least. I know others have sensitivity to things, but all people are sensitive to one thing or another. It’s not up to me to judge and project my preferences upon others.December 19, 2014 at 7:45 pm #820191
“Outside you smell it for a few minutes and it’s gone.” I think I should be able to walk the promenade without holding my breath to speed up and pass the smoke drifting along the path. It persists much longer than you think on a day with only very light wind. It’s not a question of judging. It’s a question of defending the right to breathe clean air in a public space. Stinkysmokers, I do think we should get the smoke (whether tobacco or marijuana) out of outdoor public spaces. However, let’s not label people “stinky smokers”. They are people. They have been taken advantage of by corporations that have found a way to extract money from them regularly.December 19, 2014 at 8:44 pm #820192
Smoking anywhere but a room expressly intended for the purpose, including outdoors, used to be considered incredibly rude. I wouldn’t mind if that line of thinking came back; if anything I find weed even more annoying than tobacco.December 19, 2014 at 9:03 pm #820193
I don’t really disagree with what your all saying in regards to the smell (it is gross) is just that where do you draw the line? Car exhaust fumes, pungent foods?
@datamuse When was that time period? I remember when I was a kid that you could pretty much smoke anywhere. Doctor’s offices, airplanes, restaurants. I’m not even 40 years old yet.
@Sue you have the right to clean air, but Joe Smoker should also have the right to stand outside and smoke a cigarette.
It’s not something that I think will ever be solved in our lifetime unless we ban cigarette and move them over to vapor (which is slowly happening on it’s own)December 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm #820194
If you’re smelling it, you’re breathing it. Saying that secondhand smoke is innocuous because the smell goes away after a few minutes is wrong. It’s not about “sensitivity”, although some are more tolerant than others at having toxic chemicals forced into their lungs against their will.
According to the CDC website “There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure; even brief exposure can be harmful to health.”December 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm #820195
Wes, I never said smokers didn’t have the right to stand outside and smoke a cigarette – you must be confusing me with someone else’s reply.December 19, 2014 at 10:13 pm #820196December 19, 2014 at 11:18 pm #820197
Question, I know we’re talking about cigarette smoke but marijuana smoke has been mentioned as well. I know marijuana has been legalized but isn’t it still illegal to smoke marijuana in public? THXDecember 20, 2014 at 3:24 am #820198December 20, 2014 at 7:01 am #820199
One could say that the smell of cigarette smoke that passes quickly is better than an exhaust dryer fan into your window. The crap people use to clean their clothes is much more toxic than a cigarette.
Banning smokers in the park will be as easy as keeping dogs on a leash there.December 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm #820200
Hunter, I’m not sure you get the “much more toxic”, although I do think it should be as unacceptable to vent scented (and yes, toxic) dryer exhaust as it should be to expose others to tobacco or marijuana smoke, whether inside or outside. Comparisons would require fairly precise measures of concentration and relative toxicity of the components, and this would be pretty variable, I think. But here’s one list of components in tobacco smoke: http://goo.gl/i6F0BD. And here’s one for scented dryer sheets: http://goo.gl/Hj0MNL.December 23, 2014 at 2:18 am #820201
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