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  • #924093

    TSurly
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    On my way down Avalon in to work this morning I passed a silver Jeep Wrangler with a Proud Boys sticker on his rear window. He certainly fit the profile, millenial-age white male with a “fashy” haircut.

    People of color please beware, these cowards like to fight unfairly:

    https://www.seattletimes.com/subscribe/signup-offers/?pw=redirect&subsource=paywall&return=https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/rallying-around-trump-the-proud-boys-raise-their-pacific-northwest-profile/

    And more from the Southern Poverty Law Center, pay particular attention to the quotes from the group’s co-founder:

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

    #924141

    Michael Waldo
    Participant

    What are they “proud” of? Being ignorant?

    #924145

    angelescrest
    Participant

    Thank you for this. Dismaying, at best.

    #924113

    anonyme
    Participant

    While Nazism is despicable, I find posts like this one highly suspect. Please see the breaking headlines regarding the latest attempts by Russia to interfere with upcoming elections. The angle they are working hardest right now is to inflate and inflame conflict between white supremacists and people of color as a way to further divide and distract us. The first story I read on this topic just a few minutes ago was on NPR, but it disappeared – so here’s the BEEB version:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45018516

    #924163

    WSB
    Keymaster

    Sorry, but suspicion not warranted. The OP is a longtime WSB commenter.

    #924181

    jissy
    Participant

    I have no dog in this fight and not a clue who this person is but I just want to play devil’s advocate for a moment… how do you know this person didn’t buy this vehicle with the exhisting sticker on it? Before reading your links I’d never heard of this group and would otherwise have no clue had I bought this vehicle. And profiling him: “He certainly fit the profile, millenial-age white male with a “fashy” haircut.” is just as dangerous & potentially discriminatory IMO. You could be right, but you could be very wrong…. I think we all need to be very careful in this arena.

    #924191

    mark47n
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    Nothing like the tolerating the intolerant. Only the intolerant win.

    The Proud boys are all about violence and I’m willing to bet that if the sticker is on the vehicle then the driver is likely the one who put it there.

    In my youth I didn’t play 20 questions with skinheads before jumping them. They had laces and braces, flights and shaved heads, they got jumped. I’m happy add the Proud Boys to the list.

    Guess what folks, the water is warming up and you’re the frogs. Just how warm does it have to get?

    #924192

    KBear
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    Jissy, this hate group is real, and these devils don’t need you to advocate for them. Please pay attention to what is going on in our country and our community. Standing up against hate is NOT the same as intolerance. You know what IS dangerous? False equivalencies.

    #924193

    jissy
    Participant

    KBear: Not sure you read or understood the jist of my whole post, but I absolutely understand this group IS real (didn’t say it wasn’t) and I’m in no way advocating for them (“not a clue who this person is”, “IMO”) but carry on. I’m VERY aware of what is going on in our country and community and for you to suggest otherwise is just “false” but you too are entitled to your opinion.

    #924194

    KBear
    Participant

    Um, Jissy, playing Devil’s advocate means you’re advocating for the devil in question. “Before reading your links I’d never heard of this group” = not paying attention to what is going on in your country and your community. These are bad people. Don’t make excuses for them.

    #924177

    TSurly
    Participant

    Anonyme I wish my post was Russian bot derived fake news, but I assure you that it is not.
    I find it really irritating that I have to take time out of my day to let people know these scumbags live amongst us.

    #924207

    JoB
    Participant

    yes.. people like this live among us…
    but not all of them sport identifying stickers on their cars :(

    #924261

    Graciano
    Participant

    It’s only a sticker, get over it and stop over reacting..
    I see, Hillary stickers on cars all the time…, Makes me laugh.

    #924262

    TSurly
    Participant

    Graciano a Hilary sticker isn’t a symbol of hate and intolerance. As such it reflects the views of the person who displays it. Views of sad, pathetic lowlifes who are throwig a tantrum because minorities and women are starting to do better in life then they are.

    #924266

    KBear
    Participant

    False equivalency, Graciano.

    #927535

    peshmerga
    Participant

    The ignorance in this thread is cringe worthy. If you want to keep throwing around the term “nazi” and label everyone you disagree with as that…it will lower the effectiveness of that term. Proud Boys are so far from nazi’s and fascists its crazy, but the psycho leftists think anyone who has a different view point are automatically that. The funny thing though is that you probably support the “antifa” movement, well…sorry to say, those sub-humans are the actual fascists. They only want to suppress freedom of speech and anyone who disagrees with them should be physically attacked. PB’s fight against that. If you want to get yer panties in a bunch for seeing a sticker and think they are literally the devil…just keep in mind, we are everywhere. We can’t openly support OUR president in this city, if we did, we will surly be attacked.

    #927617

    JoB
    Participant

    peshmerga

    define attack? do you mean people who expect you to rationally defend your position? you betcha..

    #928694

    wsn00b
    Participant

    I’ve had the “pleasure” of being right behind this silver Jeep twice on SB 35th Ave SW before it turns east somehwere into Sunrise heights. I live in Gatewood. Not only does this Jeep have a Proud Boys sticker, it also has an InfoWars/Alex Jones sticker on the right side. LOL. If it wasn’t indirectly/directly racist it would be super hilarious. Having a sticker advocating for InfoWars (or not removing it from a purchased vehicle) definitely makes me question their intellectual soundness. Not the sharpest tool in the shed for sure.

    More generally, I find racism just dumb. It is such an intellectually hollow argument. If there is such a thing as a superior race (unlikely) they would be much smarter than to tout dumb concepts like racial superiority. Racists are mostly petty inadequate people who can’t think of better things to do.

    #928822

    22blades
    Participant

    It’s not “just a sticker”. You’re on notice. I think of as a form of bullying. They’re saying think before challenging me, regardless of my behaviour or regard for laws & values. If you are alarmed by gang tatoos, you should be alarmed by this.

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    #931725

    EvaNill
    Blocked

    I think that on the contrary suspicion is justified! Thanks for sharing!

    #931802

    anonyme
    Participant

    I’ve tried several times to clarify my original comment, but the attempts have been futile. One more try…
    I was not accusing the OP of being a Russian bot, so sorry if that was the (mis)interpretation. I was merely pointing out that there has been a long-standing and still active Russian ploy to create more racial tension and division in our country. I also share widespread concerns about the liberal use of the word “Nazi” in everyday speech – even though it’s not far off the mark in reference to the Proud Boys. Does that mean I think we should be tolerant of their message (which is also extremely misogynistic)? Oh, HELL no. What I am concerned about is that we are becoming that which we hate, and the hypocrisy embodied in such statements. The antifa movement is actually a good example.
    Meanwhile, our country is swirling around the toilet bowl while we rage on about who is the biggest hater and who is to blame – rather than looking at ourselves, and how we got here. Russia couldn’t be more pleased.

    #932176

    J242
    Participant

    “I also share widespread concerns about the liberal use of the word “Nazi” in everyday speech”

    If they look, quack, and goose-step like a nazi, chances are… They have at the VERY LEAST nazi sympathetic views and act on them even if only passive-aggressively.

    Groups that voice hate against anyone “other” simply for their place of birth or other individual characteristic instead of the ideas they present, actively promote violence against groups of people for things entirely outside of their control, and follow the playbook of nazis? Yeah, shame them by pointing out they are nazis. If that label isn’t enough to make people think about what they’ve been supporting what can? Where is the line drawn? If you have to wait until they put on the red & black swastika arm-band before you feel they can be called out? They will grow far faster than we can combat. Not okay. We really don’t need to get to another World War if we can nip this in the bud now by simply shaming them out of the limelight. No violence required or actual citizens being put in harm’s way.

    #932200

    JoB
    Participant

    J242
    i wish the label Nazi had more impact.. but sadly it doesn’t.
    it should be enough to make reasonable people stop and think.. but it isn’t.

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