Markup info and practice/test thread

[Ken]

Before I start trying different tags and seeing what is passed by the editor and what is purged on re-edit, can the admin (That’s you WSB) toss out a few clues?

What wordpress mods are in use. Are they different for the comments on the main page and the forum? I feel it is impolite to run a script on your host that searches for the php info file. I also assume you have disabled it :)

Have you ever used a tinyMCE plugin with WP? or the wysiwyg upgrade? There are 1400 plugins currently and some are used for posting and editing on other WP sites as well as drupal and scoop.

I understand the reasons and wisdom of limiting code input and filtering code down to a minimum for security reasons as well as estethics, but figuring out what works where is by trial and error and should not be the norm for your average user.

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[cruiser]

Good man Ken I was just about to say the same thing:)

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[JoB]

hey guys.. how about the good old fashioned test method.

you post it. if it doesn’t show up or gets deleted.. it didn’t work.

nothing personal… just a line crossed.

maybe if something is deleted, they send you a quick note explaining why. :) sometimes my humor is a bit to dry to always read as humor…

As someone who has tried to moderate before, posting “policies and rules” only encouraged people to find ways to get around them.. it didn’t add clarity.

but maybe this webmaster is far more prescient than i and can navigate the shoals of “regs” more easily… whatever… i am just a passenger on this one.

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[Ken]

JoB:

I have tested several html and XML markups already. I wanted to give WSB a chance to delineate what he intended the various filters, edit modules and security features to actually do so I would know when to just use what I found or notify him privately if I find something that does not seem to work as intended.

I have already found code that works on the main comments page if the preview is bypassed but gets filtered when using the preview mod. Not anything serious but kinda annoying since paragraph breaks seem to work … whimsically.

Besides docs are available for most of the mods available for WordPress and I am an RTFM kinda guy. I made a living in the old days deciphering the nearly impenetrable Dos 3 documentation (Dos 5 was even worse, rumor has it that the early Microsoft millionaires that were too young to feel they could retire, wrote the docs).

I don’t think of them as “regs” since the complex codebase of wordpress is littered with mods and plugins that generate odd bugs depending on which list of features your trying to install. Every CMS platform either closed or open source, has similar issues.

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[JoB]

ken, my apologies. i didn’t realize your were having fun.

my hubby would also see this as fun but i am afraid i get irritated by all the details.

those of you who see in binary really do view life differently than the rest of us you know:)

have great fun.

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[JanS]

Ken…with all due respect…what in God’s name are you talking about? My suggestion…e-mail WSB…ask them about this in private, since it seems that you are the only one that’s really, really concerned about this? It will open a line of communication to help you understand what WSB does or doesn’t do technically. Us simple folks out here simply post..if it works, it works, if it doesn’t , it doesn’t…Geez….

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[Ken]

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can be displayed in the code box using either backticks or code open close tag since the editor converts the html1 code tag to wordpress backtics.

however it does not seem to apply a break when used in the forum editor.

Lets see what

this tag does here on first use. Seems to work but it is no longer visible on edit.

Code test line: code test worked first time, but edit filter ate it .

Therefore the accepted code <br> </br> does not apply a break but is not filtered by the editor plugin, the xhtml <br /> will work and stay in the code block as long as I don’t re edit this post.

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[JoB]

Jan.. i think we should cut poor ken some slack.

i don’t know what he is talking about either but i think he needs to try some things to find out if they work. And he is having fun doing this.

We don’t have to get the joke to understand laughter. Same thing here i think.

Those who talk in binary (programmers) really don’t see things the same way the rest of us do.

and cruiser gets it. i bet there are others as curious as they are.

So i am going to go to the dogs and let this thread lie while they have fun figuring out things i wouldn’t understand even if i cared about them… and wait to see what they come up with next;-)

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[JanS]

hi, JoB…:) as long as I don’t get any backticks…sounds painful – and I have me enough of those back problems ;-)

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[WSB]

Hi, I’m your friendly webmaster (she, not he; my husband focuses primarily on business development) and I don’t have much of a clue what Ken is talking about either. We are content people, not technical people, or else this site would be brimming with a lot more widgets, geegaws, code, and technical razzledazzle than it does; this forum exists as an install of bbPress, and is here via the good graces of our pro-bono technical consultant Stuart Maxwell, melded to some degree with the database for the rest of the blog, which runs on WordPress, and I haven’t changed anything about how it works or doesn’t work. I do suggest you e-mail me personally if you have a question or concern and I will figure out how to investigate it; I know just enough to be dangerous but writing, reporting, editing, photographing, and processing the content for the main site takes so many hours per day, I don’t have a lot left over for technical tweakage. Kind of like my years in TV – I couldn’t fix a transmitter but by gosh, I could write copy and order crews around. editor@westseattleblog.com

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[Ken]

hehe ok sounds good. and yes, I hung out with the transmitter guys.

The BBPress info is pretty much what I was hoping for. I can figure the rest out from there.

BBpress is pretty simple as plugins go.

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