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August 4, 2011 at 7:51 pm #600017
JanSParticipantthis just doesn’t sit right with me for some reason..
August 4, 2011 at 8:08 pm #731287
WorldCitizenParticipantWOW!
I hate to jump to conclusions, but this sounds pretty horrible.
We need to get private money out of politics!!!!!!!!!
August 4, 2011 at 9:23 pm #731288
chrismaParticipantCorporations are people, money is speech, and both are afforded the attendant constitutional protections. I don’t think this is what the founders had in mind, but thanks anyway, Supreme Court.
August 4, 2011 at 11:50 pm #731289
TDeParticipantI was reading through the above linked article, wondering if there might be any ties to Utah, as this sounds similar to what I’ve heard about how the money flowed in to oppose Prop 8 in California a couple of years ago. And as I read along, lo and behold, there it was – ties to Provo, Utah.
Not saying exactly what it is, because I have no absolute facts to draw on, but the similar patterns are interesting to contemplate. Thank you to those Supreme Court judges who declared that corporations have the same rights as people… in a ruling that displays the common sense of a gnat.
August 4, 2011 at 11:55 pm #731290
JanSParticipantTDe…Provo isn’t surprising, since Mitt is a Mormon. I’m guessing he’ll have their backing, financially and otherwise. He’s too namby pamby for me…and just announced that he sides with Michelle Bachmann as being anti-gay marriage.
August 5, 2011 at 12:26 am #731291
metrognomeParticipantactually, the SuperPAC formed by his former aides has received three separate donations of $1 mil each. Two of the companies that donated no longer exist and can’t be traced … yet.
“The group Restore Our Future, a so-called “super political action committee,” received a donation of $1 million from W Spann LLC on April 28, according to the super PAC’s campaign disclosure report, filed last week. The group received $12.2 million during the first six months of the year, including gifts from four donors who gave $1 million each, the report showed.
“One of the million-dollar donors was W Spann LLC, formed by Boston estate tax planner lawyer Cameron Casey, who specializes in “wealth transfer strategies” for high-end clients. Casey works for the firm Ropes & Gray’s, which has done work for Bain Capital, the investment firm formerly headed by Romney.
“Ropes & Gray’s is also one of several major companies, Isikoff reports, that have offices at a Manhattan office building at 590 Madison Ave. — the address listed for W Spann. Other companies there include UBS, IBM and Cemex. The building, however, has no record of a tenant called W Spann. On top of that, corporate records for W Spann give no information about the company’s owner or the type of business it does.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20088124-503544.html
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“[Lawyer] Casey did not answer requests for comment, and Restore Our Future also declined to answer questions from Isikoff about the W Spann LLC donation. It did state: ‘Restore Our Future has fully complied with, and will continue to comply with, all FEC disclosure requirements.’
“But it’s not easy to see where pro-Romney donations are coming fron. Two Utah-based corporations, based in Provo, each gave $1 million to Restore Our Future — Eli Publishing, Inc., and a nameless outfit called F8 LLC.
“The $1 million. no-footprints donations to a ‘SuperPAC’ demonstrated anything-goes fundraising given the green light by the U.S. Supreme Court’s controversial, 5-to-4 Citizens United decision.
“The 2010 decision overturned restrictions on corporate giving to political campaigns that dated back 103 years to the administration of President Theodore Roosevelt.”
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/08/04/mystery-co-gives-1-million-to-romney-vanishes/
August 5, 2011 at 5:21 am #731292
redblackParticipanti’m still looking for takers: i’m betting willard romney takes the GOP nomination next year. jan’s article and metrognome’s follow-up are helping me make my case.
and my side bet still stands, too:
he’s going to tap that milquetoast pawlenty for veep.
mind you, i don’t endorse such folly, and i’d never vote for that crooked, shifty-eyed, blow-dried and crispy-haired max headroom-lookin’ mother.
August 5, 2011 at 11:25 am #731293
kootchmanMemberOK… and no union campaign contributions? Congress sets the rules… under the Commerce clause they can say a corporation has to wear a chicken suit on casual Fridays if they want. They can set the terms on the identity of a corporation and the legal status they enjoy and what attendant privilages they have. The Supreme Court merely rules that such as corporations are…they are entitled to free speech. It never said corporations are constitutionally entitled to “personage” status.
August 5, 2011 at 11:48 am #731294
JoBParticipantkootchman..
the supreme court has made corporations better than mere people.
They have all the rights of citizenship with none of the obligations or accountability.
August 5, 2011 at 12:21 pm #731295
kootchmanMemberNo shit…. I am going to go rob a bank… only instead of a mask.. I am going to go in with my incorporation papers.
August 5, 2011 at 12:23 pm #731296
kootchmanMemberwhy not redblack… beats that shuck and jive, duplicitous, unprincipled, self interested, pandering POS we have now.
August 5, 2011 at 12:25 pm #731297
kootchmanMemberI am not thrilled with Romney either… but…. it beats the alternative. Four more years of this?!! Hell no!
August 5, 2011 at 12:27 pm #731298
kootchmanMember” I said Hope and Change”… I didn’t say when… Happy 50th Mr. President…
August 5, 2011 at 2:51 pm #731299
metrognomeParticipantkootch — you gave Rove, Cheney, Bush and the Republicans eight years to destroy this country’s economy and its military and to do damage to the financial system that will take decades to repair. Now you want to elect more Republicans who want to make sh!tloads more money for their millionaire and billionaire ‘friends’ by repealing laws that make our water drinkable and our air breathable and by creating an upper class nobility and a lower class with no middle class. Your biggest complaint is that Obama hasn’t fixed the country fast enough so the Republicans can make more money by screwing us over again.
August 5, 2011 at 4:41 pm #731300
kootchmanMemberYea that pretty much covers it.
August 5, 2011 at 4:43 pm #731301
kootchmanMemberread Plunder…. by Steven by Steven Greenhut
August 5, 2011 at 5:42 pm #731302
JanSParticipantKman..re: your post #11…you would never say “shuck and jive” in a description of Bush, Bush, Sr. , Clinton, Carter, or any other prez, I’m betting. Why would you use that term now? Just askin….
August 5, 2011 at 7:11 pm #731303
kootchmanMembercause that is what he does….
August 5, 2011 at 7:20 pm #731304
kootchmanMember“It has been adopted into non-Afroamerican speech, with a reference to behavior adopted in order to avoid criticism” Some phrases used often enough DO become part of the culture…and in this case..it fits. Got a very special dictionary of what can and can’t be said? You are not inferring it is a racist statement..? Carter was just a flat out incompetent…Clinton…Slick Willy… Bush..Disaster…Bush Sr. Honorable man.. sorry not going to pull that PC bag out on me.. shuck and jive is used all the time… I am unapologetic on this one.
August 5, 2011 at 7:21 pm #731305
kootchmanMemberIt’s in the urban dictionary….
August 5, 2011 at 7:26 pm #731306
kootchmanMemberJoining the “”Amen choir” for instance… it means as we all know…affirming those beliefs we subscribe to..like a liberal listening to a Rachel Maddox tirade… but I suppose if we looked long enough, and hard enough, I am sure we could find someone, somewhere who would find a conservative Christian objector.
August 5, 2011 at 7:28 pm #731307
JanSParticipantI accused you of nothing….I was just asking. Have a great afternoon!
Oh, and because things are there doesn’t mean we should use them…just sayin ;-)
August 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm #731308
kootchmanMemberor “tap dancing” around an issue….
August 5, 2011 at 7:37 pm #731309
365StairsParticipant(probably a thread jack)…I sincerely enjoy reading all of this community’s political views, observations, and ideas for improvement. Some of it has opened my eyes to real issues that I thought little of. Although, even with my one “powerful” vote, not sure what difference I can make – other than to practice democracy in action. Sounds cop-outish right?
“Monday Morning Quarterbacking” is popular for us avid football fans…I participate and believe strongly in my views to fix my team each week…but quite frankly…I am at a complete loss as to how even begin to participate in MMQing the nation’s issue today, with all the crap wrong…
How do you folks have the energy to do this all day? I observed…You all want to be so right with your statements…the real passion in your individual convictions of what’s right & wrong for our nation bleeds through my screen. Sometimes the fingerpointing is annoying to read…but I get that its all part trying to make your points stronger.
It cannot be solved in this forum, but since I’ve stated in other threads my lack of understanding… what are the real fundamental / universal things we need to get back on track? I really want to know – without the partican crap…is that even possible?
August 5, 2011 at 7:37 pm #731310
JanSParticipantto be honest, where I come from, “shuck and jive” refers to a certain race of people and how they talk. That’s why I was asking. Sort of like last week when the gentleman (Lamborn) from I’m not sure what state referred to something as a “tar baby”..yes, it means
a “sticky situation”…but Oxford’s also says it’s a racial slur. Was the gentleman within his rights to use the term? Sure. Should he have? No. He could have simply said “sticky situation”. Honestly, I was casting no disparagement on you..honest :)
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