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April 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm #807679
rwParticipantThe $2.5 million fine is a drop in the bucket for this guy. But the erosion in fan and sponsor support hits where it counts. My guess is that the team has dropped a good $50 million or more in value due to this week’s events. If Sterling hangs on to the team I wager that sponsors, fans, and even players and coaches will decide that they no longer want to have anything to do with the Clippers. The team’s value will decline even further. And a $50 million to $100 million decline in value is a number even a semi-senile racist slum lord can understand.
April 30, 2014 at 3:13 pm #807680
JanSParticipantsaw on the news last night the stadium crew covering ads in the arena of sponsors who had dropped them.
April 30, 2014 at 4:32 pm #807681
JTBParticipantWow, the nation has collectively come together to protest a gross expression of racism in a setting involving billionaire owners and millionaire athletes. I think those people are not at all concerned with the Supreme Court decisions on the Voting Rights act and ability of states to abolish affirmative action in college admissions. Isn’t it grand that we’ve come so far?
April 30, 2014 at 4:57 pm #807682April 30, 2014 at 5:19 pm #807683
rwParticipantWho are “those people?” I think a lot of people are upset about the voting rights manipulations in particular. And the Michigan college admission rules were challenged up to the Supreme Court, where the challenge only failed because of the conservatives stacking the court. Also, the Sterling and Bundy situations give the lie to claims by some conservatives that racism no longer exists.
April 30, 2014 at 6:29 pm #807684
wakefloodParticipantI think we’re in a weird and difficult point with regards to race relations and Affirmative Action in particular. I’ve heard some of my progressive friends waver on the efficacy of A.A. and whether it’s still needed. This disturbs me on a number of levels with things like what are noted above – but I’m also wondering if the argument has changed a bit as well, over time?
I’m wondering – without any data to help me sort out my thoughts – if, due to our more pluralistic society over the last decades, that the issue is slightly less race-based and now more economic-based? i.e. should the battle be tweaked to focus on giving the poor of all races a leg up versus those specifically of non-whites?
In short, I have a conundrum. Obviously, I believe that both elements need continued support. But the question remains how to impact the greater societal good the most effectively in the shortest amount of time?
Does focusing on economic-based issues raise the tide and reduce the inflammatory nature that comes along with race? Or does that seem like a concession that race relations are ok, when they clearly are not?
Color me torn.
April 30, 2014 at 7:30 pm #807685
JTBParticipantWake,
I heard someone commenting on the affirmative action decision say that the focus should be shifted away from race and toward class. That seems to recognize that more and more non-minorities are falling into an economically disadvantaged position relative to the well-off. BUT, I think that’s nevertheless disingenuous in that it still doesn’t account for the relatively greater disadvantage to minorities still conferred by the legacy of racism. I need to go back and read John Roberts’ writings on affirmative action prior to his appointment to the Supreme Court. I don’t know if he’s clueless or heartless but it seems that he must be one or the other.
April 30, 2014 at 8:13 pm #807686
Alki WarriorParticipantI think Donald Sterling’s girlfriend is setting an example of how strong women should be I applaud her. She should be recognized as a hero in the eyes of the world, and the NBA. What she did was right.
April 30, 2014 at 9:14 pm #807687
seaopgalParticipantAW, you’re just one big bundle of “Say what?!?”, aren’t you?
April 30, 2014 at 9:23 pm #807688
wakefloodParticipantYeah, JTB, I absolutely get riled up every time I read the gobbledygook that passes for logic from the ideologue wing of SCOTUS. And from what I remember about that decision’s rationale, it made my stomach hurt.
I guess we have the same fights on the same fronts as always, just wondering how we can effectively manage a further crumbling of the backbone/will to keep A.A. working?
April 30, 2014 at 11:50 pm #807689
waynsterParticipantSad thing is its called free speech is he an elected official ..no…was it wrong what he said…hell yes….is the person that leaked it wrong… hell yes… will he pay for his racists comments and his racist ways…yes….now get over it… Dam Now I have repeated myself… most of the top 1% of the wealthy in this country are racist or bigots they only care about them not you not me so we are oh so surprised when this crap comes out please…..
May 1, 2014 at 2:16 am #807690
Militant ModerateMemberBigotry, racism, wealth, power, infidelity, yada yada yada.
Let’s get to the important stuff.
Does this mean we get the Sonics back?
Hey … who threw that shoe at me???
May 1, 2014 at 3:41 am #807691
wakefloodParticipantHa! Only if Hansen/Ballmer can both outbid Oprah and convince the NBA they don’t want to move them. Likelihood? Approaching zero…unfortunately.
…OUCH!
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