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May 9, 2014 at 5:05 pm #611283
JoBParticipantdid anyone else notice the story on the home page about a car left blocking an intersection with a note on it that a tow truck was on it’s way?
since when do you get to just walk away from the obstacle you created for others?
why wasn’t the car pushed to the side of the road?
if it couldn’t be pushed, where is the owner who should be directing traffic around their car?
All i can do is shake my head and wonder …
ok..maybe i am just the smallest bit little old lady cranky this morning but …
Personal responsibility means that you are personally responsible for the messes you create… doesn’t it?
or os that concept another that is now too old fashioned for words… ?
May 9, 2014 at 5:09 pm #808181
miwsParticipantI saw the story, and wondered about that myself.
Was trying to determine if it was something “simple” like a flat tire, or worse, in which case the car couldn’t be moved.
Mike
May 9, 2014 at 5:13 pm #808182
JoBParticipanteven if it couldn’t be moved..
when did it become ok for owners to leave a note and walk away?
May 9, 2014 at 5:19 pm #808183
pattileaParticipantmaybe a someone on the way to the Hospital!? Not all things are done out of rudeness. Just sayin!
May 9, 2014 at 5:27 pm #808184
HuindekmiParticipantGo back and look at that picture again. The cars two front wheels are pointing off in completely different directions. That thing isn’t getting pushed anywhere.
As far as the owner standing in the middle of the road trying to direct traffic around his/her disabled vehicle… can you think of a more dangerous place to be? I’m guessing that the owner didn’t have flares or bright reflective clothing in their car. Frankly, the right course of action is to turn the car’s hazard light on, call a tow truck and get the heck out of the road.
I agree that in a perfect world, the owner would stay (out of traffic) until the two truck arrived, but you have no idea if this person needed to be somewhere. On the way to the hospital? Needs to be at work by a specific time or else lose their job?
Ascribing this person’s actions to rudeness or a lack of personal responsibility without knowing anything about the actual situation…
Shaking my head.
May 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm #808185
JoBParticipantHuindekmi
in an ideal world?
is this how we define personal responsibility
these days ..
an ideal contingent upon perfect circumstances ?
why would an individual’s need for anything except critical emergency medical care supercede the need for staying with their vehicle when it is blocking traffic?
the vehicle is their responsibility.. a responsibility that does not end with calling a tow truck.
if if emergency medical care had been summoned wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume that a call would also have been placed to the local police to report a traffic hazard?
just saying…
you call me out about making assumptions but aren’t you doing the same? .. assuming that it must be ok for someone to just walk away? … that there are any number of reasons that make that ok?
as for those tires.. i looked at the same photo you did.. so we had the same information..
and i don’t see two tires pointed two different directions…
but there you go..
May 9, 2014 at 6:18 pm #808186
JoBParticipantjust wondering..
can’t you be cited for leaving a vehicle blocking a roadway?
that can’t be legal.
May 9, 2014 at 7:37 pm #808187
HuindekmiParticipantJoB,
I have made absolutely no assumptions about the situation. Specifically, I am withholding judgement of this individual until such time as I have more information. Anything else is jumping to conclusions. I’ve merely pointed out that there may have been reasons for this person to not be standing there by his/her disabled vehicle. I don’t know whether any of those reasons may apply. And neither do you.
This forum requires a minimum amount of due diligence before saying anything negative about a business. This rant rule has been enforced BY YOU many times in the past. But that same level of personal responsibility on your part is NOT required before calling out an individual?
Have you contacted the owner of this vehicle? Do you know anything about the circumstances other than what you read on the blog? Did you even see the actual car in the street?
Until you have a bare minimum amount of information about the situation, how about you give an individual citizen the same level of respect that you would to a corporation.
May 9, 2014 at 11:01 pm #808188
JanSParticipantok…people disagree on here. Not a reason to go after each other…well, you post about…well, so do you…etc.etc. And…rule #1..don’t make it personal…discuss the topic, not the commenter.And yes, we all break that now and then – NONE of us are perfect. If it was my car I would put the hazard lights on, call the tow company, and wait for them. If on my way to work, I call in and explain. I do not abandon said car. The tow company wants it’s money for services, wants to know exactly where to take it, and on and on. I have been in that circumstance, and I certainly don’t just walk away from my car. I would feel terrible if what I did led to someone else getting into an accident, and, worse, getting hurt by it.
Now…it’s Friday afternoon…it’s the weekend…shake hands and go to your corners, please ;-) I’m betting the car is long gone by now :D
May 9, 2014 at 11:03 pm #808189
JanSParticipantoh, and huindekmi…nice way to call out someone on here…see? we ALL do it from time to time – even me :->
” But that same level of personal responsibility on your part is NOT required before calling out an individual?”
May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm #808190
JoBParticipantHuindekmi..
the question i asked was if the level of personal responsibility that requires you to stay with your disabled vehicle has become another one of those values that is considered hopelessly old fashioned.
I am sorry to say that you did a fine job of answering that question.
May 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm #808191
HuindekmiParticipantNice passive aggressive response, JoB. Did you even read my response? You certainly didn’t address a single one of the points I made. You only made a personal jab at me.
May 10, 2014 at 12:20 am #808192
JanSParticipantH….this is a great forum usually. Why mar it by getting personal, insulting even, with someone you don’t even know(yes, you did what you complained about – think on it)…just as I don’t know you. It’s pointless. Here are some words to use ” I disagree”. Say why you disagree, and leave personal crap out of it. And have a great evening and weekend. Maybe some sun will come into our lives, even.
May 10, 2014 at 12:39 am #808193
timh2oMemberLift hood and turn on 4-way blinkers. Sends a clear message if your ever in this situation.
May 10, 2014 at 12:48 am #808194
singularnameParticipantSkipping back up to the Q on what would compel me to leave a broken-down vehicle in the street (i.e., stayin’ outta the fray), I think “having to pick up my kid from school or day care before they closed” would be the only reason I can think of outside of medical emergency.
May 10, 2014 at 12:58 am #808195
justadumbguyParticipantMay 10, 2014 at 2:53 am #808196
JanSParticipantjustadumbguy…how do you feel about the car in the middle of the street…not about how you feel about another poster…sorry if I am hammering on the same point. It just really irks me.
May 10, 2014 at 4:38 am #808197
JoBParticipantHuindekmi
yes.. i did read your posts..
did you read mine?
there is no potshot at you ..
passive aggressive or otherwise
only disagreement with the points you raised before you shamed me
and acknowledgment of the answer you gave to the question i posed…
believe me nobody is sadder than i that it is suddenly acceptable to leave your car in the road with a note and carry on with the important stuff you have to do regardless of how much that inconveniences others…
and that asking if that is now considered acceptable is considered unacceptably rude.
i asked the question this morning because i see the same entitled behavior… the basic assumption that one’s personal wants needs and desires are somehow so much more important than everyone else’s … the idea that if you are not behaving well that people will just have to get over it .. and how dare they call you on your behavior … re-enacted in nearly every public space i pass through these days…
color me old fashioned.
i clean up my own messes, wouldn’t dream of inflicting the tantrum my child, grandchild or greatgrandchild was having on others, don’t walk my dog off leash, wouldn’t dream of leaving a pile of poop in the street or anyone else’s trashcan, volunteer for people who ask for my time .. and write thank you notes when someone does me a favor.
and i find it unbearably sad that those standards are apparently no longer something to which people aspire.
what used to be called common courtesy is no longer so common.
May 10, 2014 at 8:22 pm #808198
littlebrowndogParticipantI am one of the first to be bothered by that sense of entitlement, but in this situation as described I see a few too many unknowns and a mitigating factor or two. First, when I have been the one with the misfortune of my car breaking down and I have called AAA the first question they have asked is “Are you someplace safe?” I cannot imagine them telling me to wait in my broken down car in the middle of an intersection, nor can I imagine them advising me to get out in the intersection to direct traffic around my car. Second, I know way too many people just scraping by with minimum wage jobs who have been told that one more absence or late arrival will result in firing. I figure the person did at least take responsibility to the extent they called a tow truck. Me personally I am far from feeling entitled and I would feel awful if my dead car was delaying others but I would view it as too dangerous to sit inside or get out in the middle of moving traffic and try to direct traffic, and at nearly 60,I am quite sure I could not push my car to the side. One might conversely ask where were all the community minded helpful people who could have together pushed the car off to the side? Anyhow, too many possibilities for me to ascribe it to entitlement with any degree of certainty.
May 10, 2014 at 8:58 pm #808199
GinaParticipantSo how long was the car there? Because it is gone now.
May 11, 2014 at 12:48 am #808200
PDieterParticipant“Personal responsibility means that you are personally responsible for the messes you create… doesn’t it?”
Like forum rants when you don’t know all the facts?
May 11, 2014 at 1:37 am #808201
JoBParticipantPDieter… LOL. you thought this was a Rant?
May 12, 2014 at 5:16 am #808202
justadumbguyParticipantJan S,
Why yes, I do have an opinion regarding the car. It was quite eloquently expressed by Huindekemi….
‘Go back and look at that picture again. The cars two front wheels are pointing off in completely different directions. That thing isn’t getting pushed anywhere.
As far as the owner standing in the middle of the road trying to direct traffic around his/her disabled vehicle… can you think of a more dangerous place to be? I’m guessing that the owner didn’t have flares or bright reflective clothing in their car. Frankly, the right course of action is to turn the car’s hazard light on, call a tow truck and get the heck out of the road.
I agree that in a perfect world, the owner would stay (out of traffic) until the two truck arrived, but you have no idea if this person needed to be somewhere. On the way to the hospital? Needs to be at work by a specific time or else lose their job?’
As I said to Huindekemi, ‘you are not alone.’ The evidence I see in the picture indicates that car COULDN’T be moved. You and the OP are entitled to judge the motives of the person who left a car that couldn’t be moved, I don’t feel qualified to do that.
May 12, 2014 at 5:32 am #808203
JanSParticipantowner doesn’t have to stay in the middle of the road. But don’t you think owner should have put on their 4 ways, and maybe stayed until the tow truck got there?
Besides that, there is no reason for anyone on here to take passive/aggressive potshots at anyone. Someone who didn’t like the way to OP expressed her OPINION made it personal, and that’s a shame. We all have opinions…none more valid than anyone elses.
The car is gone, the streets are safe (at least for this momentA)A, and all is right with the world…have a great week.
May 12, 2014 at 7:07 am #808204
justadumbguyParticipantAs I said Jan I don’t have enough information to know what the owner should have done. Thanks though for taking potshots at me.
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