A local lady is in CRITICAL NEED

[JoB]

I like the idea of a Team Elizabeth..

it sure worked for mike :)))

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[miws]

If clothing, or any other non-food/toiletry needs are an issue for her, maybe folks could donate no longer needed, gently used clothing, if the sizes are right?

I like hh’s idea of keeping the basic, ongoing needs in mind. Even if the Food Bank were a viable option, they don’t necessarily have those type of items. And, if her Food Stamps were of a viable amount for her, there’s no way she could get the basics like TP.

hh, do you know if Elizabeth has any hobbies/interests, that folks could donate supplies for? Knitting/crocheting? Puzzle books?

On the surface, they may not seem like “needs”, but they would certainly be “good for the soul”.

Mike

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[Westside2]

Whatever is needed, (cash, gift cards, specific items), it might be good to have a point person/plan to collect the items and deliver to her. Let me (and other folks)know what the plan is so she can get some additional/ongoing help. I’m sure other folks here are willing to help support someone who needs to get back on their feet. :)

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[happy hour]

I contacted the bank re a foundation account. You have to file w the state and so forth. I’m wondering if cash would be good. Or a money card from money tree to be loaded. I’ll have to check with them. I’d say a fund whereas she could save receipts and tally for her expenditures. I know I shouldn’t have come out of the gate without a plan. Yesterday was a painful day for Lizzy I reacted by posting here. I am thrilled by the outreach of support. She slept well last night and had food. That was the immediate goal We are still trying to brainstorm As to how to proceed. It’s a group effort here. It’s the community that has a voice. I don’t want to micromanage a person holding on to a thread of dignity. I’m not about to ask which brand of toiletry or size undies she is in need of. When she was married her husband was emotionally controlling. That’s all I will speak of her personally. Period! Her landlady housemate doesn’t know how critical her situation is. It appears as though mike has offered to be a drop off point. I am able to meet anyone out and about. I will give it some thought so we are not all running around like chickens :) running loose in the hood. That may show up as a whole new thread :)

To all a good night!!

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[Alki Warrior]

A lot of locals are in critical need.

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[singularname]

Re. food banks, not sure how the workings of a food bank go, but when the kid was in Boy Scouts I was always appalled that folks would just put out big boxes of expired foods for donation … seriously, like 2 out of 3. Half of it would be reasonable if not expired; the other half would be kinda ridiculous and expired: capers, jello (craptons of jello), “out there” thai mixes requiring coconut milk and fish, cranberry gel, frightening old salad dressings, list goes on. Gift cards are the way to go, IMNSHO.

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[Alki Warrior]

You got that right singularname. Lot of it is no good. You cant keep eating jello and capers. Stale moldy bread are fed to homeless people in shelters I’ve heard. Two week old bologna sandwiches are handed out. I guess it could be worse. I ate moldy bread once but didn’t know it was moldy. I just picked apart the mold and ate the rest. You gots to do what you got to do when you are poor. Its no one elses problem.

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[JoB]

Alki Warrior

so glad you survived

i survived poverty too

even homelessness

what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger

it can also make you wiser

so sad you didn’t learn compassion from the process.

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[JoB]

miws is putting together an email list for people who want to assist this particular person in need.

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[muchlove]

Interesting how fast judgment is passed upon someone. No one knows where I’ve been what I’ve gone through or am going through now.

I’ve had to utilize the food banks they’re not all bad, you’re usually allowed to choose some items you want. White Center offers day & evening hours. Salvation Army almost always has good produce and breads – not saying food banks are designed for dietary restrictions.

I too can personally understand that food stamps are never enough even when you bargain shop and utilize food banks. I know they don’t cover basic needs – been there doing that. Hoping for disability to be approved one day and know after 24 months you’re eligible for medical. Plus why isn’t she enrolled in Obamacare? Just seems people don’t want to utilize the services that are available.

I’m not one to ask for a handout or hand up but am fully aware of this life style as I’m living it.

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[JoB]

muchlove..

i wish there was some kind of fund that we could donate to that would disburse discretionary funds to people living on the financial edge…

it is so much more cost effective to keep people housed and integrated into our community.

no-one should lose their dignity because they become ill.

i would also like to see an active counseling and advocacy center for those who are not yet homeless… a place where you could get help accessing the services that are available.

i know some people luck into a good counselor through medical services on the hill or through their local church or senior center…

but for the post part .. at a time when they are least able to cope… people are somehow expected to muddle through on their own..

and we blame them when they fail :(

it’s not right

and it’s not cost effective either

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[happy hour]

I’m not going to ask Lizzy nor answer or defend jello and moldy bread. I was just trying to help 1 person i can’t help the gross masses unfortunately. I can only sponser where my internal spirit tells me to go.

Perhaps a different thread could be started to give voice to those who need it.

You can support this thread or move to another thread for debating . This has taken a turn. Blessings to all in need. I would love to have a huge 501-c3 for the masses that fall through the cracks but I’m too old and tired.

Our massive government has limitations

So Pick up your torch, if you can, and promote change.

We will support you! :)

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[miws]

happy hour is correct.

Can we get this thread back on it’s original course, please?

I don’t know if Lizzy is reading this, but it has to be hurtful to her if she is.

It certainly has been hurtful to happy hour, who out of the kindness of her own heart, and despite her own struggles, is constantly thinking of others.

Just for the record, I am not directing this toward Jim (Clark) or Kevin. You are good guys, with good hearts, and had valid concerns, IMHO, about how much of the funding through the Crowdfunding Site would actually go to Lizzy.

Mike

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[westcoastdeb]

I love west seattle.

(and no, this is not sarcastic – it is sincere)

All it takes is a few people to vouch for you being a good person and in need of some help and people are willing to help you out.

Debbie

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[JoB]

a little help at the right time can make all the difference in the world

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[singularname]

My apologies, HappyHour, for derailing your thread. My intent was to encourage “grocery/Target-like cards” for your pal, since y’all are seemingly getting together to help out. Sorry if that came across any other way.

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[JoB]

singularname.. i agree..

i too hate to waste the 10% in fees when someone needs help.

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[happy hour]

Singularname. No offense taken regarding gift cards w out a fee at all. And fundanything and paypal take fees. And any opp to avoid fees is good.

Fundanything is a great sourcefunder for sure in our times of technology. So many people in need. Glad our country believes in tithing in addition to church. I think I’ll write the Pope!! Lol. .

I always shop for a bargain too. So I’m on board w no fees or commissions. Lizzy shops at regular grocery but had to charge on target a bunch of starch to sustain herself when she was starving last month. As much as that was her least and last option. Plz no food bank reply’s. Thx.

There are reasons beyond ‘our’ logical’ minds or understanding. We don’t know (medical )unless we’ve walked in someone else’s shoes

Thx to everyone’s great support. I know we may be barely getting by on our own. I am just hanging by a thread to be honest

I’m tired and need to rest. Love and best wishes to all

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[angelescrest]

On the other hand, Happy Hour asked for help for a friend in critical need, and some of us responded expediently, disregarding the 10% fee. It hasn’t reached $300, byt he way, possibly because of the naysayers. The few dollars I may have to pay extra is probably what I would have to spend in time and gas to deliver giftcards, etc., and hopefully a quick online donation reached the recipient immediately.

Kudos to Happyhour for doing this.

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[happy hour]

See. I couldn’t stop. Lol. I just posted the link on twitter an asked that everyone retweet it. I then posted here. I have no idea where the money came from. I just thinks it’s truly marvelous A miracle for sure. Chillzzzzz

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[charlabob]

Mike, please add me to your email list :-)

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[miws]

Will do, Charla!

Mike

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[miws]

Charla, which addy do you want me to use, your gmail, or the one with your url?

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[SomeGuy]

JoB – you may be aware of this already but the West Seattle Helpline offers some types of assistance to those in need:

http://wshelpline.org/

Not sure if Lizzy would benefit from any of their offerings but wouldn’t hurt to check right?

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[JoB]

Someguy..

i do know about the helpline but i don’t know if Lizzie has contacted the helpline yet… or if there is much they can do to help her.

what is needed is access to counselors who help people navigate the system.. and i don’t know where to find that.

Mike found that when he spent the year in transitional housing at Compass..

not one of her options, i think

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