JimmyG
Keep in mind that off-leash dog parks and play dates aren’t a good idea for the majority of dogs.
You want your dog to think of you as it’s pack leader, not other dogs. And you don’t want them to see other dogs as fun and play, you should be the provider of their fun and play. You want them to look to you.
I’m not saying you, but way too many use the off leash parks and doggie play dates as a guilt free way of getting their dog exercise and “socialization”.
Dogs don’t need dogs outside their own pack to lead full happy lives. As flowerpetal says the last thing your sometimes naughty dogs is to be around other naughty dogs.
Outside of your dogs needing to know how to calmly and safely greet a strange dog, they don’t need playdates with other dogs that aren’t going to be members of their own pack.
Good luck, my rescued dogs have tried my patience many a time.