FYI: Masked photographers in The Junction = ‘1st Amendment auditors’

2:42 PM: Thanks for the tips. Police have received calls this past hour about two masked men in The Junction, photographing people and businesses. Officers checked them out in the vicinity of the Post Office and Eagles aerie; they told dispatch the men weren’t doing anything illegal (permission is not required to photograph anyone or anything visible from a public space like a sidewalk or street). What some who’ve seen them report to be unsettling is their outfits (here’s one photo texted to us), reminiscent of what plainclothes ICE agents have been photographed wearing, but one report we’ve received say the men identified themselves as “independent media.” They were also described as “belligerent.”

2:55 PM: Someone just called this into 911 again, and officers told dispatch they’d made contact earlier and “there’s nothing we can do.”

3:31 PM: As noted in comments, this is apparently a practice called 1st Amendment Auditing, carried out by provocateurs. It would explain why we thought we heard officers tell dispatch the men were “auditors.”

4:40 PM: We’ve received a couple photos of both.

141 Replies to "FYI: Masked photographers in The Junction = '1st Amendment auditors'"

  • AK September 9, 2025 (2:46 pm)

    Time to follow them around with our cameras out! If they are ICE they are Nazis and deserve nothing from us!

    • WSB September 9, 2025 (2:52 pm)

      Just to be clear, nothing I’ve heard suggests they represented themselves as ICE (or any other law enforcement). Just that their vests/masked/shades were similar.

    • WSzombie September 9, 2025 (2:58 pm)

      Based on your statement, I don’t think you understand what Nazi’s are. Or maybe I don’t understand. Can you explain how Immigration and Customs Enforcement are “Nazi”? 

      • TJ September 9, 2025 (3:25 pm)

        The term “Nazi” many years ago came to mean more than the original, strictest definition (think of the Soup Nazi on Seinfeld 30 years ago). In the dictionary, the first definition is almost always the original meaning, but usually there’s at least one or two additional, as this one from the Britannica Dictionary:

        “an evil person who wants to use power to control and harm other people especially because of their race, religion, etc.”

      • Jim P. September 9, 2025 (5:28 pm)

        ICE has been demonstrating some frighteningly Gestapo-like behavior.

        • Dunno September 10, 2025 (10:19 am)

          It’s baiting!!!   Ignore these idiots!

      • Neighbor September 9, 2025 (6:02 pm)

        Deportation is the word the Nazis used to describe the process of arresting and forcibly moving their victims to prison camps, sometimes across international borders.  This is literally the exact same thing ICE is doing.  There is no difference between an ICE agent and an SS officer.  It’s the exact same thing.

        • WSNeighbor September 9, 2025 (11:04 pm)

          Except that the prisoners real Nazis deported were born in those countries and existed in those countries completely legally, and ICE agents are targeting people who have entered the country illegally. Whether or not one agrees with what ICE agents are doing, it’s a significant difference in the comparison, and minimizes the evil of actual Nazis. 

          • Derek September 9, 2025 (11:39 pm)

            Buddy they said Jews were illegal like Trump is saying non-white people are. How many people in different pop-up prisons or private prisons do you need to see before changing your mind? The law is literally made up. No human is illegal and should be hounded by fake borders, America has similar blood on their hands in Latin American countries and proxy wars. Sure use the cope of whatever fake national security concern there is (hint: always racist)

          • Neighbor September 10, 2025 (12:13 am)

            ICE is revoking citizenship and deporting people who have been here for decades.  One in three Americans has a criminal record.  If you believe this is about crime you’re dangerously naive.  There’s really not a difference here.  You’re defending the exact policies that led to the Holocaust.

          • Churro strength September 10, 2025 (7:04 am)

            No, WSNeighbor, you are minimizing the evil of ICE. Nazism is an ideology of hate and ICE is an instrument of hate. Stop making excuses for evil people doing evil things. Don’t be a Nazi sympathizer and don’t justify cruelty by othering humans from different places, because that’s just makes you part of the problem. 

          • Neighbor September 10, 2025 (9:57 am)

            You don’t seem to understand the methodology used by the Nazis to marginalize, contain, and remove the minorities they found undesirable.  They demonized and blamed minority groups for the problems German people faced just like we have done here. They revoked citizenship just like we are doing today.  They moved people across international borders to countries they were never from just like we are doing today.  They did not just show up one day and start putting people in death camps at scale.  It was an incremental process.  It is critical we learn from history so we do not repeat it.  Please educate yourself on this dark time because we are repeating it verbatim today.

          • SS September 14, 2025 (9:11 am)

            You guys who are referring to ICE as Nazis or to Trump,  who directs ICE, as Nazis are wrong!! You are using inflammatory words, to complain about something you think is wrong to make it bigger and more wrong to get people on your side! It’s right for ICE to arrest non-citizens, where necessary. That’s our laws, not Naziism!! Now,  if citizens are being arrested then of course that’s wrong, but we have to separate the two actions. Quit escalating rhetoric!!!

    • Derek September 9, 2025 (3:41 pm)

      Agree fully with AK. They are correct.

      • bradley September 9, 2025 (6:45 pm)

        They are not Nazi’s.  Jump the gun much?Probably worse as they are TikTokers going around pushing the limits of their “Media” shield.

        • Ronald Foust September 9, 2025 (11:08 pm)

          Are you kidding me Bradley? You are delusional, just like this President…

  • WS Resident September 9, 2025 (2:54 pm)

    I encountered them. I saw them and thought it was very strange to see fully masked men in “army green” vests walking around the Junction with camera equipment. I was driving north on California when I saw them. I slowed down to look at them. When they saw me looking at them, they turned their cameras on me. The whole thing was very strange and unsettling. 

    • The King September 9, 2025 (6:20 pm)

      I feel the same way with government cameras. Yet if you say anything the answer is “you should have no expectation of privacy in public”. It appears these two gentlemen have proven a point that people trust government more than we do each other. That’s dangerous in itself 

  • Junction Guy September 9, 2025 (3:03 pm)

    Just saw them too, thought they looked a little out of place. Saw one get into a car with disabled vet license plate.

  • helpermonkey September 9, 2025 (3:11 pm)

    this is a new tactic the magas are using to intimidate. I believe it’s called “first amendment auditing”. Ignore them and no NOT engage, as that is what they want. 

    • WSB September 9, 2025 (3:29 pm)

      Thanks, HM, that would explain what officers radioed back to dispatch – I listened to the recording of the response multiple times and it was either “auditors” or “monitors.” Sorry I wasn’t already aware of this trend. Numerous online explanations. – TR

    • WS Person September 9, 2025 (3:43 pm)

      That’s exactly it. There are countless videos on social media they post. They call themselves first amendment auditors and they bait and try endlessly to get authority or others to engage with them and start something. Ignore them and they lose their power 

      • Alki resident September 9, 2025 (5:05 pm)

        What power exactly? Did you even try talking with them or just assuming the worst of people?

        • HS September 10, 2025 (8:34 am)

          Power meaning these people intentionally provoke others then post that “conflict” content online to earn money and promote themselves/ideas. If you don’t engage they have no conflicts to edit and post. It’s agitation content and is usually used to support disinformation (first amendment rights not being upheld). Another example is creators in a flash mob style run into a business and “take over” causing chaos and disruption. They push employees off registers and then do employee tasks but wrong – handling money, not charging customers, yelling nonsense into the store loudspeaker, destroying displays. All the while recording content, especially employee confusion and management trying to get them out of the store without doing anything that could be misconstrued, with edited content, as harassment and intimidation by that business. In that example it’s challenging the providence of (big) business and negatively targeting businesses by name.

    • WS Person September 9, 2025 (4:02 pm)

      Yes this is it exactly. They call themselves first amendment auditors. There’s a ton of social media pages about them. They just try to get people to engage with them and start stuff. They mostly go after police or hospital staff, or people they can sue.If you ignore them they have nothing. 

      • Derek September 9, 2025 (7:28 pm)

        lol they don’t go after police

        • B September 9, 2025 (8:41 pm)

          Oh yes they do.

          https://apbweb.com/2024/02/first-amendment-auditors/

          • Derek September 10, 2025 (12:05 am)

            The guy who was here from Spokane is a MAGA Tik toker. You can look him up… he’s punisher skull cop supporter type. And cops intervening on some stuff they do isn’t “going after the cops” that isn’t their target.

        • Burgerman September 9, 2025 (9:59 pm)

          Oh, Derek. <SIGH>

        • noah September 10, 2025 (6:13 am)

          Their main target is police. 

      • CW September 10, 2025 (7:13 am)

        I don’t know the best response, but ignoring these folks is what Germans did about the SS and we know how that ended. And we are well to remember the SS did go after anyone who dissented, too. I try to refrain from making comparisons but it is getting more difficult by the day. 

    • Lauren September 9, 2025 (5:01 pm)

      Thanks for this, and thanks to WSB for editing the post to include. Definitely sounds like “ignore” is the best tactic here. Don’t give them anything to react against. 

    • Desperately Seeking Saka September 9, 2025 (5:14 pm)

      helpermonkey, they absolutely are not MAGA, they’re anarchists/abolisionists. It’s the same crowd who call themselves “sovereign citizens” and drive around with homemade license plates and without driver’s licenses. They also think police have zero jurisdiction over them.

      • Derek September 9, 2025 (7:38 pm)

        You are lying to yourself. These ARE MAGA guys. 2 second online search tells us this.

      • Peter Lemon Jello September 9, 2025 (8:50 pm)

        Just to reinforce, This closely related to the SovCit movement and this is meant to be provocative. Usually you can find them aggravating clerks at government offices while they demand nonexistent documents and insist that they can be there because its a public building, all the while misunderstanding what that really means.This doesn’t meant that they are not MAGA folk, but this activity is not associated, with MAGA.

      • Firefighter September 10, 2025 (8:08 pm)

        MAGA and their god-king Trump ARE the most dedicated anarchists in the scene today. Trump believes in nothing but his own supremacy – his avowed followers are either like Bannon and Miller, true unapologetic white supremacists and Nazis, or amateur anarchists like the hilariously buffoonish incompetents who stormed congress and defecated in its halls. 

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (6:07 pm)

      It’s not maga. It’s been on youtube for 10-15 years and is non partisan. I’m surprised it took this long to show up in West Seattle. Everyone should be for the Bill of Rights and The Constitution.

    • bradley September 9, 2025 (6:49 pm)

      It’s not Maga.  It’s over zealous TikTockers trying to get clicks.  But if you are hating on then, I’m with you, but they’re far from Maga’s.   Sorry to disappoint  

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (7:27 pm)

      These videos have been around way longer than Trump/MAGA and people who make them are Gay, Trans, people of color, you name it. It’s definitely not maga or white privilege as someone else said. Tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling us you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • Dog Whisperer September 10, 2025 (12:37 am)

      What an uneducated remark. Your ignorance diminishes history. Why would WSB post such nonsense?

  • aa September 9, 2025 (3:11 pm)

    Lots of you tube videos of people with cameras upsetting people.  I vote we don’t give them the attention and drama they are hoping to create.   

  • DRW September 9, 2025 (3:23 pm)

    This is not normal nor should it be thought of as normal.

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (7:22 pm)

      Nazis were mentioned above. I feel like your comment is more in line with Nazism. You feel the way they are exercising their rights isn’t normal and shouldn’t be normal. Who are you to judge or criticize a legal activity?

      • Normal September 9, 2025 (9:20 pm)

        Something can be legal but not normal. You yourself are judgemental in your replies. We all do it. 

      • Lauren September 9, 2025 (9:26 pm)

        Tell me you sympathize with Nazis without telling me you sympathize with Nazis ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • KinnikinnickFlwr September 9, 2025 (3:24 pm)

    Looks like one of those guys is the man who was filming people at Costco: https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1n7z2so/ice_at_seattle_costco/

  • Someone in Westwood September 9, 2025 (3:30 pm)

    White privilege in action. If this was someone of color….. well mostly likely not ‘cuz they would know better to mask up and aggressively film people. 

    • Geneesee5Points September 9, 2025 (5:23 pm)

      Not disagreeing… But, there are many “auditors of color” on YouTube, Reddit, etc… These folks are provocateurs thru and thru. They believe they are constitutional educators but are just clout chasers. All they want is a reaction, don’t give them what they want. 

      • 1994 September 9, 2025 (10:27 pm)

        Totally agree! These kooks are out to raise someone else’s blood pressure by intimidation and trying to sound fancy with words. They are just blowing smoke and want to be an irritant to others. Ignoring them is the best response they deserve for being kooks!

      • Ss September 13, 2025 (10:06 pm)

        These people are ridiculous! They are trying to find a bad police officer or trying to instigate a bad reaction from an officer, and this is wrong!!! Police have enough trouble from many people being jerks naturally without having to worry about these rude people just instigating!!!! This should be illegal as harassment of an officer!

        • nothend September 14, 2025 (9:01 am)

           SPD officer J. Allen  did respond to the auditors and did a great job. 

  • Kt September 9, 2025 (3:35 pm)

    Soon neighbors will be reporting on neighbors like in East Berlin pre reunification.  Meanwhile Dems won’t oust Schumer with someone who will stand up to the wannabe dictator.

  • Jay September 9, 2025 (3:38 pm)

    Ok, I know who these people are. Not this guy specifically, but the movement. They call themselves “auditors” and are “testing the first amendment.” They’ve been around for a long time and are usually part of the Sovereign Citizen movement. They are belligerent and behave in a way that makes them seem dangerous on purpose to get a reaction for social media. You’ll see them a lot posting dozens of YouTube videos that get no views. Do not confront them. Dismiss them, ignore them. They want to feel like victims. They are suffering from severe delusions of grandeur, they think that they are holding the line again an oppressive society. Which usually involves harassing people at work or going about their day. 

  • Derek September 9, 2025 (3:39 pm)

    Losers trying to troll and provoke. And “trigger the libs” it’s the latest sensation in 4Channner online circles.

  • Javier Fosado September 9, 2025 (3:41 pm)

    I think the WSB should publish the pictures of these individuals. That’s not illegal either!

    • WSB September 9, 2025 (4:35 pm)

      Yeah, I had to think about it for a while. The first photo is linked but I’m adding another one.

  • Melinda September 9, 2025 (3:49 pm)

    ICE MEMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BY THE NAZI GOONS IN CHARGE OF THEM. BE DILIGENT AND DEFINITELY REPORT IF YOU SE ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS LIKE THIS. 

  • WS hates fascists September 9, 2025 (3:50 pm)

    If you’re sick of these LARPing auditors like me, you can wreck any video footage they record by playing copyrighted music. Especially something like Disney or Taylor Swift. If it’s the “auditors” I think they are, they post their footage on Youtube harassing people with pointed questions about the first amendment, and Youtube does not allow the use of copyrighted music.

    If their intentions are truly to examine and audit our constitutional right to free speech, then they won’t mind the music because you are also exercising your right to play it

    • Lauren September 9, 2025 (5:03 pm)

      Oooooh I LOVE this idea! 

    • EVGuy September 9, 2025 (5:17 pm)

      I don’t think Youtube will block or ban their videos if there’s copyright music that’s in the background, Youtube will just demonetize it. 

    • alkiannie September 9, 2025 (5:20 pm)

      Nah, you are overestimating the efficacy of YouTube’s filters and auditing system. These folks could still make $ before YouTube filters out a low fi video with some copywrited music on it, if it ever did. Ignoring them is the best thing you can do.

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (6:14 pm)

      Sorry to burst your bubble but software can remove the music and supposedly yt doesn’t really care anymore about music in the background.

    • BlairJ September 9, 2025 (11:05 pm)

      The idea of mocking these “auditors” lurking around with their tactical-looking gear and cameras by serenading them with Little Mermaid music does sound oddly amusing.

    • wsperson September 10, 2025 (8:53 am)

      also, if you have a car with LiDAR be sure to honk at them aggressively while the system is active. Them photographing your car will ruin their camera sensors. 

    • Ali September 12, 2025 (3:45 am)

      I saw this idea and music suggestions on reddit too. Thought it would be funny to see in action.

  • Watertowerjim September 9, 2025 (4:10 pm)

    Lots of videos on Tik Tok – just losers taking advantage of the law – to get reactions and clicks. Then they call the people “Karen’s”. Yes, that term still exists.  They usually have pepper spray or mace so stay clear.It is a little odd that they can film inside private businesses as long as they are on public property.  Someday these guys will start flying drones above homes’ parking strips or alleyways. 

  • Natty RAD! September 9, 2025 (4:11 pm)

    Reddit is full of videos of these “1st Amendment Auditors” on the Public Freakout subreddit. They WANT you to engage so they can film your reaction. Do not engage! And quite frankly it’s pathetic and disgusting how some people have nothing better to do than to go around antagonizing people in the name of the “first amendment.” The world has enough problems already…

  • Mask up. These belligerent maga maroons will probably be posting our locations September 9, 2025 (4:20 pm)

    And cars if not directly reporting brown people to ice. Guess the nazis are operating openly now. 

  • AB September 9, 2025 (4:21 pm)

    It is within the law to stand directly in front of them, blocking their camera, and talk incessantly about Epstein, Trump’s felonies, and how Trump invited Russian interference into US elections.

  • Brian Feusagach September 9, 2025 (4:26 pm)

    As we encounter these folks, we need to tell them: “Go ahead and keep doing what you are doing …. but stop hiding behind a mask. To do so, means you are a coward or a thug. Which one are you, then?”

  • Martha September 9, 2025 (4:27 pm)

    This group, or a member of this group, was in the West Seattle library last year, filming people and attempting to intimidate staff. They have a whole collection of videos of their activities on YouTube. Provocateurs. 

  • SC September 9, 2025 (4:34 pm)

    This was completely unsettling , I was up at the junction when these men were there. They were taking multiple pictures out front of most of the store fronts, I did say something… they may have taken a picture of me walking away with a few hand signs. 

  • flimflam September 9, 2025 (4:59 pm)

    Legal? Sure. Weird way to spend your time? ABSOLUTELY! I can’t imagine spending even part of my day doing this…

    • alkiannie September 9, 2025 (5:22 pm)

      They make money off it. They post wild reactions on YouTube for views. It’s a job. Some people make a ton of money doing stuff like this.

      • flimflam September 9, 2025 (6:27 pm)

        That’s just depressing really…

  • WS Resident September 9, 2025 (5:09 pm)

    Oh to be bored and have nothing better to do. 

  • alkiannie September 9, 2025 (5:18 pm)

    It’s important to mention that they make money doing this. They film a big reaction from someone to their behavior, they post it on YouTube, and they make money from YouTube every time that video is played. If that YouTube video goes viral, they could make thousands of dollars . The likelihood of that video video going viral increases if they are able to get a significant reaction from someone on film. Best thing to do it avoid and ignore them – stay ‘uninteresting’. I’m sure they came to West Seattle dressed similarly to ICE to bait people. They know we are liberal and we speak our mind. Stay calm and move on, neighbors. 

  • WestIsle September 9, 2025 (5:20 pm)

    In case you wanted to know what became of the obnoxious and lame kid who sat behind you in third grade…

  • aRF September 9, 2025 (5:35 pm)

    No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there’s nothing to be afraid of.

    • WS Taxpayer September 10, 2025 (7:46 am)

      A+ Comment.  IYKYN

  • dhg September 9, 2025 (5:40 pm)

    They are also known as “Frauditors” because there is nothing legit about their “auditing”.  From what I’ve seen on YouTube, it’s guys who have nothing better to do than to buzz around.  Many of them do not understand the meaning of “Public” in public buildings, such as government centers.  They will walk inside and claim a right to walk around the hallways and offices because it’s “public” and paid for by taxpayers.  

    • Alki resident September 9, 2025 (6:31 pm)

      Dhg  that’s literally our right to be in public buildings us tax payers pay for. You act like it’s a bad thing to do. Not everyone knows that we have rights to be in public property. I’ve watched those videos and they’re very interesting and informative.

      • 1994 September 10, 2025 (10:11 pm)

        The auditors/frauditors (great word DHG!) can certainly visit any public buildings tax payers pay for but only in the ‘public’ space such as the reception area. They are not allowed to go into work areas where information is possibly confidential and those areas are not open to the ‘public’ – just the reception space. Your rights to visit public property have limitations.

  • kitkat September 9, 2025 (5:46 pm)

    clicked on made it all sound like they’re rather innocuous and based on the previous comments I thought maybe I had the wrong info. But then I read this…

    “Auditors document how officials react to being recorded; a “successful” audit occurs if recording proceeds without interference, while a “failed” audit involves officials attempting to stop filming or remove the auditor.”
    https://legalclarity.org/what-are-first-amendment-auditors-and-what-are-their-rights/

    That explains being near the post office, they wanted peeps to call the police. They’re also the guys with guns who who film voters dropping off ballots, just to intimidate people.I agree with others just ignore them, wear sunglasses, keep your head down and let them waste their time….buncha morons.

  • gebee September 9, 2025 (6:01 pm)

    As a German I am really surprised about that masked men provoke people and the police cannot do anything about this. In Germany, police officers would question these guys and gave warnings, maybe taking them to the police station.  Is the US Stasi coming alive??? Unbelievable!

    • alkiannie September 9, 2025 (9:15 pm)

      In the U.S., filming people in public is generally legal because the First Amendment prioritizes freedom of speech and press, and there’s usually no expectation of privacy in public spaces. In Germany, privacy and personal dignity are strongly protected by law, so filming or publishing someone’s image without their consent can lead to fines or criminal charges. The key difference is that the U.S. values free expression more, while Germany prioritizes individual privacy and protection from humiliation.

      • anonyme September 10, 2025 (6:22 am)

        I support the German version.  There is a point when freedom of expression becomes harassment, and this is it, IMO.

  • nothend September 9, 2025 (6:54 pm)

      God Bless the Homeless Vets

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (8:05 pm)

      Amen! I know who you are referring to. He is one of the originals.

  • 35this35mph September 9, 2025 (7:16 pm)

    I encountered these guys. I walked up as two other guys were peppering them with “what’re you doing here?” type questions. I also asked what they were up to. They were obfuscating, saying things like, “Just being an adult in the world.” I asked directly if they were ICE. They said they were not. I’m afraid I got agitated and took the bait, asking, “Are you just being assholes?” Another person asked why they were carrying big cans of mace. The guy said, “If someone attacks me I can spray them and then beat them about the head and neck.” It was weird. He then went on to say that he was a journalist doing a story about the post office right there until “People in your neighborhood freaked out and started yelling and name calling.” (These are paraphrases not actual quotes). I said “You guys are clearly being deliberately provocative, so you *are* assholes.” I flipped them off and left. They took my picture through the window of the Senior Center thrift shop when I went in. I feel silly that I got baited into confrontation. But I also had no idea who they actually were and I want to respond rather than look away or hide. These are troubling times. 

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (10:46 pm)

      You will be in their next video on youtube.

    • Lola September 10, 2025 (7:34 am)

      I can’t believe that they were carrying cans of mace in plain sight and the police did nothing?  Is that not what those robbers brought into Menashe’s when they robbed them, holding the cans up to the Owner and workers.  I would have at least thought that they would confiscate those just on that alone.  

  • Junction Lady September 9, 2025 (7:29 pm)

    An invasion of personal space, annoying and absurd!  Avoid if possible and ignore these men who are trying to intimidate and provoke 😠

  • Truth Sleuth September 9, 2025 (7:45 pm)

    The man’s name is Robert Anthony McDonell. He’s a Youtuber who goes to school districts and harasses public employees. McDonell has been banned from Walla Walla School District. He harassed employees in Snohomish School District, as well.  He posts videos with the public servants’ phone numbers and their emails, then his followers flood their offices with calls and messages. More info here about Walla Walla https://www.union-bulletin.com/news/local/education/spokane-man-banned-from-wwps-properties-after-trespassing-in-district-building/article_a3e5c79c-e631-11ee-95b4-db8e07b49988.html. With such faux journalists/ fake auditors is recommended to play an artist with great copyright lawyers. However, I do know of one occasion where he edited out Taylor Swift while nonconsensually videoing a public servant who was playing Taylor Swift in the hopes he’d leave, so it’s not foolproof.

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (9:41 pm)

      Doxing people who engage in legal activity is not cool. There’s a difference in having your information exposed like that. Public employees should expect it under FOIA. This auditor is a private citizen and under no obligation to give his name. Making their name public or doxing could have consequences.

      • Jay September 10, 2025 (9:52 am)

        He’s a public figure, it’s not doxxing. 

      • Another Kyle September 10, 2025 (2:48 pm)

        Ohhh so NOW we’re concerned about people doing things that are technically legal but “not cool” to do? I’m finding it hard to have sympathy for this man. 

  • Derek September 9, 2025 (7:45 pm)

    This behavior and movement literally spawned from the right wing 4Chan website. Stop acting like they aren’t alt right. I am tired of the constant gaslighting on these comment boards. “Did you just assume the worst” “they aren’t maga” gosh guys, WAKE UP!

    • CAM September 9, 2025 (8:22 pm)

      Some of them are probably MAGA. Some of them are almost certainly sovereign citizens (who are absolutely not MAGA). Some may be other anti-government groups. Some may be mentally ill (likely a minority, the former groups tend to prey on the mentally ill to get them to join). They aren’t all doing this based on the same underlying beliefs but their goals for this activity are the same. In that I view libertarianism as right wing, I would classify most of the groups that engage in this as right wing. But they aren’t all right wing fanatics. 

    • Rats September 9, 2025 (9:54 pm)

      Derek, what’s your point? Right wing people are not allowed to have free speech? 

      • Derek September 9, 2025 (11:12 pm)

        Point to where I said that. I said the quacking noise is coming from a duck—does that mean I’m saying a duck can’t quack? I’m just saying, call them what they are. These things actually ARE important in the provocateur media world. Or you get intentional off balance signal to noise ratio. And misinformed reporting. Or fake titles like “First Anendment Warrior.”

  • Rats September 9, 2025 (7:53 pm)

    Don’t let masks trigger you. We all wore them recently and some still do for health reasons. Case law states there is no privacy in public. So if you want privacy in public, you need to create it yourself (like the auditors are doing). Filming in public or on tax supported property is a Constitutionally protected activity. Poster 7, the post office rules, allows filming in public areas. There’s also a DHS memo stating it is allowed on Federal property. You as a citizen are free to leave at any time. Don’t want to be on an auditors camera? Don’t engage. Don’t worry because there are dashcams, security cams, and vehicles like Teslas that have cameras that are recording you already.  This is and should be non partisan. Exercising rights is open to everyone. 

    • Derek September 9, 2025 (8:14 pm)

      Not really. I could think of a few things that could go on a sign that would be considered “inciting violence” so if you’re correct it would mean anything. And technically there’s potential grounds for “inciting violence” with these guys when they target any group. Large or small. Brandenburg v. Ohio

    • Alki resident September 9, 2025 (8:14 pm)

      Rats, WELL said. 

      • Burgerman September 9, 2025 (10:02 pm)

        Alki resident, your favorite Orange guy’s goons are arresting people literally for just filming in a public space. If you don’t agree with that practice, WHY do you still support him?

    • CAM September 9, 2025 (8:27 pm)

      Filming on all “tax supported property” is not in fact a right. You do not have the right to film in courts, jails, prisons, the offices of government agencies providing social services, most hospitals (many are government run), schools, etc. 

  • Rob September 9, 2025 (8:20 pm)

    Liberals just can’t help needing to control everything. I walked by and said hi and went on with my life. It’s that easy. 

    • Burgerman September 9, 2025 (10:04 pm)

      Have you watched or read any independent news lately (in other words media not own by Trump interests)? Your take is dangerously naive. Not to mention disingenuous.

    • Derek September 9, 2025 (11:45 pm)

      Buddy lol. Come on, Trump literally doing executive orders daily when he squeezes out a thought. He wants to change football teams names. He wants control over people wearing masks at protests. He’s got a new stupid thing daily on this Truth Social feed and he wants to punish states he doesn’t like. Right wingers do the same crap at left wing protests, but they don’t say hi, they drive their car through them.  Conservatives are all about control.

    • Churro strength September 10, 2025 (7:13 am)

      Sure Rob, and everyone clapped

    • Meow September 10, 2025 (8:19 am)

      It’s not a left or right issue? It’s harassment and it’s ok to call it out. Some people want to live in a nice community where we take care of and respect each other. And not a place where violent, anti social losers troll people in public

  • Jack September 9, 2025 (8:52 pm)

    Maybe it’s time to aggressively antagonize them and get them to either leave or explain this creepy behavior, especially at a time when ICE is doing the same exact thing. They need to explain what they are up to or face the (physical) consequences. 

  • Anita Maria September 9, 2025 (9:26 pm)

    Oh my goodness, fellow West Seattleites, we could have SO MUCH FUN with these guys! Ask them for directions to the nearest drag show. Ask if they’ll pose for selfies. Tell them you think they’re hot and want their number. Ask them to hold your cold brew while you look for your keys in your purse. Follow them with your cameras and say you’re auditing the auditors. Tell them you’re collecting signatures for Greenpeace.Ask them to sign a petition supporting more pickleball courts. Stay calm and completely straight faced the whole time. This is an opportunity!

    • anonyme September 10, 2025 (6:28 am)

      I like the way you think, Anita.  What’s good for the goose…a crew should follow them around, silently filming everything they do, follow them to their car, record their license plate, then ID & dox them.  Simple.

  • Jen Sizemore September 9, 2025 (9:33 pm)

    Does anyone have a link to their YouTube channel? 

  • Grilled Cheese September 9, 2025 (9:38 pm)

    It’s amusing how people are upset with individuals filming people in the Junction, but they’re not bothered by the constant surveillance of their own porches. 

  • BDR September 9, 2025 (9:59 pm)

    One does not go out dressed like that to be ignored. They are obviously trying to get everyone to notice them. They are just begging someone to try and stop them. How sad they want attention so much they that they do this. Nothing but bullies trying to act tough. SMDH 

  • WSNeighbor September 9, 2025 (11:18 pm)

    Enough with slinging around the term “Nazi”! It has a definition and you can’t change it to suit your cause. It’s so insensitive to those that actually lost people at the hands of the Nazis and minimizes the pure evil of systematically murdering TEN MILLION people. What ICE is doing may be wrong, but it’s not the same so find a new term to use. As the grandchild of someone who lost 26 family members to the evil of the Nazis, I beg of you all, please stop making this comparison. 

    • Ivan Weiss September 10, 2025 (6:40 am)

      @ wsneighbor:

      You’re not my language cop, nor anyone else’s. Members of my extended family died in the Holocaust, too. I heartily endorse use of the term “Nazis” to describe what ICE is doing, and intend to use it freely. They are doing exactly what Hitler’s Gestapo did. The Nazis did not start out with mass extermination. They started out with “show me your papers,” intimidation by gangs of thugs, and perversion of due process, just as ICE is doing now. It doesn’t take a lot of brain cells to detect the similarities.

    • Churro strength September 10, 2025 (7:11 am)

      As the great grandchild of holocaust survivors, I deeply disagree you. They are sending these people to concentration camps. Their tactics are made to cause terror. Make America Great Again, was the slogan of the American Nazi Party. Why do you think they chose that slogan? Why do you think this won’t escalate to mass killings? The time to speak up is now. Stop making excuses and stop begging people not to point out the obvious similarities. 

    • helpermonkey September 10, 2025 (8:19 am)

      the trump administration is kidnapping American citizens and legal immigrants off the streets and taking them to “camps” – please, expand your definition of trump-era “Nazi”. At the very least, the trump administration is playing by the Nazi handbook pretty closely. To suggest otherwise, and to clutch pearls and act as if we are in the wrong is also part of that playbook! 

  • Karen B September 9, 2025 (11:33 pm)

    Speaking to some of the early comments, I think that most of get that we have no expectation of privacy from those who are traversing public streets and sidewalks, And we know that the porch-Ring-Nest-Etc surveillance are a thing.. It does feel different and concerning if someone starts doing that outside one’s home,  or at us specifically when we are out and about like heading to the Post Office.I trust other like-minded folks in this community much more so than this current administration or those who are trying to provoke those of us in blue states. The issue isn’t whether to  trust government, rather than each other. It’s about who’s running the current government and their intentions about destroying what I love about this diverse community, 

  • Grilled Cheese September 10, 2025 (7:05 am)

    They are Nihilist  They believe in nothing. Just ignore them West Seattle.

  • Vito Gio September 10, 2025 (8:04 am)

    Silly, powerless boys trying to feel important. Ignore them and walk away or laugh at them and walk away. 

  • John S September 10, 2025 (8:24 am)

    When West Seattlites & Seattlites as a whole are more worked up over a few random men filming them to try to antagonize individuals v all the much more important issues the city is facing such as multiple shootings a week in W Seattle, daytime smash & grab robberies at a local jewelry store & rampant crime then we know we have a big issue. Let’s stay focused on actual issues negatively affecting the city, pressure elected officials to answer to the and fix them and not get distracted by some random individuals randomly filming people to try to get a reaction out of you (which it seems is working). 

  • WSForever September 10, 2025 (11:20 am)

    It is telling that they feel the need to mask. If this were really about transparency, accountability, or “independent media,” why hide their faces? People who believe they are doing something positive usually want to be recognized for it. Instead, this approach feels intentionally unsettling and antagonistic. I cannot imagine going home at night and feeling proud of a day spent provoking neighbors and making people uncomfortable in their own community. It is a very odd way to claim you are serving the public.

  • eatbat3 September 10, 2025 (1:36 pm)

    Here’s an example of their “work” from 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxTlJaY818

  • Auditing Seattle September 10, 2025 (3:34 pm)

    Wow, these West Seattle trolls are sure worrying about what other people are doing and seem so entitled – they must love suppressing Free Speech and Expression.

  • cleo September 10, 2025 (7:53 pm)

    Why, if masked ICE can do it and actually tear apart families and ruin peoples lives, these citizens practicing their legal right to film in public areas be denied that right? 

  • cleo September 10, 2025 (7:55 pm)

    WSB, why the use of the term “provocateurs”?

    • k September 11, 2025 (1:00 pm)

      Because their intent is to provoke people, which is the definition of a provocateur.

  • moogieboots September 11, 2025 (12:40 pm)

    How weird. People have too much free time.

  • 22blades September 11, 2025 (2:22 pm)

    More Jan 6, style stupidity. Wearing a mask as plausible deniability for stupid acts you don’t want to be held accountable for… Maybe they just held up a nearby 7-11 in broad daylight.

  • agentprovocateur September 12, 2025 (5:43 pm)

    agentprovocateur reporting for duty to let the people know the dumplings of fury are at it again. spotted on the corner of California Ave and SW Oregon. They did *not* stop for any dumplings. 

    • anonyme September 14, 2025 (6:44 am)

      Ironic, as they rather look like dumplings.  A couple of tantrum-throwing dough boys.

  • Cam September 12, 2025 (6:44 pm)

    They were in front of Chipotle at about 5:30. Today.  People please ignore them.  They are a waste of your time.

  • Teacher September 13, 2025 (7:52 am)

    “Many sovereign citizens may also feel emboldened under the new Trump administration, as they were during his first term, due to their belief that he understood and was supportive of their plans. They were additionally able to make great gains in membership at the time due to conspiracy theories, such as QAnon, that also radicalized believers into sovereign citizenship.” – SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center” 

  • Viva La Resistance September 15, 2025 (8:37 am)

    Next time they show up organize a “Water Balloon Fight Flash Mob” that they accidentally get caught in the middle of . . . Oops

  • Buck September 15, 2025 (11:52 am)

    Why are they wearing masks?  It’s pretty obvious, to look scary.  These guys are scared little boys playing out their little boy fantasies.  Bet they can’t wait to scurry home and get online to boast of the great successful day “getting the libs”!

  • Vern Murray September 18, 2025 (3:28 pm)

    I’m wondering how much privacy Robert McDonell is due after being banned from Walla Walla Public Schools properties after trespassing in district building March of 2024. Seems like they have a lot in common. 

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