FOLLOWUP: Last night’s ‘heartbreaking’ Camp Long lodge fire was arson, SFD says

(WSB photo)

2:16 PM: Seattle Parks crews have spent the morning boarding up the windows and doors at Camp Long‘s fire-ravaged lodge. As reported here last night, the fire was reported around 8 pm Monday; no one was hurt, but it’s clear that major damage was done. Seattle Fire spokesperson Kaila Lafferty tells WSB that the fire remains under investigation; this post on SFD’s Fire Line site details how firefighters battled the flames. As for the lodge’s fate, we asked Parks, and spokesperson Rachel Schulkin responded with this statement that reveals the lodge wasn’t the only building affected:

Last night our beloved and historic Camp Long building, along with two other cabins on site, were vandalized and caught fire. We are still actively assessing the situation at Camp Long and currently do not have any information on the future of this facility. We hope to have more information by the end of tomorrow.

(Added: The entire park is closed today.)

Camp Long falls under the designation of what the city calls an Environmental Learning Center; commenters have noted that the proposed city budget calls for cuts to the department’s environmental-education program, and a proposal to move it under a “public/private partnership.” Supporters of the program were already planning to testify at tonight’s 5 pm budget hearing. (Here’s the online petition they’re circulating.) Meantime, people continue arriving at the park’s entrance to gaze sadly at the charred, boarded-up lodge; the word “heartbreaking” was heard over and over again. Many are there in honor of memories made at the lodge. One person who briefly spoke with us said there’s an apartment on the lodge’s second floor in which they lived many years ago.

4:09 PM: SFD has just announced that investigators ruled the fire “intentionally set” and have “shared their findings with police.” Damage is estimated at $1.2 million.

4:25 PM: Added information from a summary released by SPD after their investigator talked with SFD’s investigator:

(SFD’s investigator) informed me he believed the fire was arson. He explained to me there were multiple glass windows broken behind the building, which he believes could have been a forced point of entry. He stated he did not know what was used to start the fire, but believed the fire started inside the North stairwell.

He informed me there were two cabins on the property that appeared to have been broken into. He said one of the cabins had glass shattered across the ground and there were blood droplets inside and outside the cabin. He stated there were no indication that any property was stolen from the lodge or cabins.
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I then contacted a Seattle Parks and Recreation Branch Manager who walked me around the property and pointed out the damage done to the lodge. I observed a broken glass door on the north end of the lodge and multiple broken windows on the west side of the lodge’s basement. All could have been possible entry points of the suspects.

(The manager) then walked me to the two cabins that were broken into. The first cabin was cabin 6 (Glacier). I immediately noticed a shattered window, with glass dispersed across the ground inside and outside of the cabin. I observed what appeared to be a blood trail that started on the front steps of the cabin entrance and tracked inside the cabin.

(The manager) showed me Cabin 4 which appeared to have had its Plexiglas window pushed out of its frame and onto the floor. I confirmed with (the manager) that there was no other vandalism done to the property, and there was no property stolen.

They’ve sent samples of the blood in for testing.

50 Replies to "FOLLOWUP: Last night's 'heartbreaking' Camp Long lodge fire was arson, SFD says"

  • AR November 12, 2024 (2:45 pm)

    Per today’s Seattle Times: “Seattle police are investigating a Monday night fire at a historic lodge at West Seattle’s Camp Long as arson.Based
    on preliminary information, officials found multiple broken glass
    windows in the lodge — “which could have been a point of entry” — and
    two nearby cabins that appeared to be broken into, according to Seattle
    Police Department spokesperson Eric Muñoz.As of Tuesday
    afternoon, however, Seattle fire investigators are still completing
    their investigation and have not officially determined a cause of the
    blaze, Seattle Fire Department spokesperson Kaila Lafferty said.”

  • raywest November 12, 2024 (3:00 pm)

    I was devastated to read the news this morning, but now hearing that two cabins were also lost and that this was likely arson is gut-wrenching. On top of this, the city wanting to cut the environmental-education program has sent me into a tail-spin. Now my fear is the city will just move to demolish the structure and sell it off for some outlandish private project. I hope I’m wrong.  We may need a community rally and fundraiser to “Save the Lodge.”

  • Jeff November 12, 2024 (3:04 pm)

    It’s stories like this that make me wish I believed in hell.

  • anonyme November 12, 2024 (3:59 pm)

    Terrible news.  My good friend used to be a ranger/teacher at Camp Long; it’s a special place.  I can’t believe that funding cuts are being considered while stupid crap like Saka’s barriers are being considered.

    • DelridgeResident November 12, 2024 (4:39 pm)

      The amendment that Rob Saka introduced to the budget to remove the barrier on Delridge was for $2 million. This was to remove a safety feature that inconvenienced him and maybe a couple dozen other families. It sounds like the damage to the lodge is valued at less than that. Hopefully Rob can come to his senses and propose that that chunk of city funding be spent to rebuild this lodge instead. That’d certainly be a more worthwhile use of the funds and would benefit so many more West Seattle residents. Here’s a chance for Rob to really show what he’s made of and where his priorities lie.

      • WiseWoman November 13, 2024 (2:10 am)

        I concur!

      • Citizen Joe November 13, 2024 (9:11 am)

        Agreed. How do we hold Mr. Saka accountable to properly use funds for the betterment of West Seattle?

        • DelridgeNeighbor November 13, 2024 (1:37 pm)

          “How do we hold Mr. Saka accountable to properly use funds for the betterment of West Seattle?” A great place to start is by emailing Rob (rob.saka@seattle.gov) and his chief of staff Elaine Ko (Elaine.Ko@seattle.gov ). Rob declared removal of the barrier on Delridge to be his #1 priority in our district. Let him and his staff know whether you believe it’s more important to restore this community treasure, or to save Rob 90 seconds when he’s accessing his kid’s daycare.  

          • walkerws November 13, 2024 (2:45 pm)

            Saka never sends actual responses to emails. It’s either a generic form letter or nothing. He doesn’t care about his constituents.

      • HighPointRunner November 13, 2024 (10:12 am)

        Rob is awful, ashamed that my neighbors voted for him

      • walkerws November 13, 2024 (11:43 am)

        This would require Rob Saka to suddenly gain self-awareness. Unlikely.

  • WSB November 12, 2024 (4:09 pm)

    SFD has just announced that yes, it’s been officially ruled arson, damage estimated at $1.2 million.

  • Darren November 12, 2024 (4:27 pm)

    Hope the person or persons are caught and held accountable.

    • Jeff November 12, 2024 (4:39 pm)

      Caught?  Maybe.    Held accountable?   Almost certainly not.   It will either be some delinquent kid that gets scolded and sent home, or a strung out space case ruled not fit for trial.    In neither case will there be any hope of making up for the damage caused.

      • Darren November 13, 2024 (12:13 am)

        That’s why I used the term hope 🤣

  • WSB November 12, 2024 (4:30 pm)

    And – just added yet more info from police.

  • 22blades November 12, 2024 (4:30 pm)

    I am wondering how much can be recovered by insurance towards some type of restoration. I realize that it won’t recover the intangibles but it’s a start. Meanwhile, my empathy meter is dead. I had an “unhoused” & uninsured person wipe out the side of my car for $12K damage a few months ago. Him being cited was of little comfort. He cared less when the cops showed up.

    • Al on the Bus November 14, 2024 (4:18 pm)

      I would assume that the City is self-insured.

  • Question Authority November 12, 2024 (4:55 pm)

    The Police should put a hound dog on it and that blood trail has odds of heading towards camps just East on the edge of Camp Long.

  • Joan November 12, 2024 (4:56 pm)

     They should offer a reward for information about who did it. Someone out there knows. An arsonist on the loose is frightening.

    • WiseWoman November 13, 2024 (2:11 am)

      Exactly 

  • Admiral-2009 November 12, 2024 (5:01 pm)

    Darren agreed this low life scum needs to be found, convicted and made to pay all the costs associated with repairing this historic building!

    • Jethro Marx November 12, 2024 (5:50 pm)

      You will of course have to hope the alleged arsonist and/or vandal has over a million dollars to take.

  • Sarah November 12, 2024 (6:29 pm)

    I hope there are cameras. Arsonists are a special kind of loser. 

    • WSB November 12, 2024 (9:12 pm)

      No, there weren’t.

      • Sarah November 13, 2024 (1:49 pm)

        Ugh. How!!!

  • WS student November 12, 2024 (6:33 pm)

    As a person who had done Girl Scout camp there and grew up going in and out of that park it really hurts my heart to know someone would do such cruel things to a beautiful memory making place. All the memories I have in the cabins and in the park have now made me realize how much this park is a part of my life. I really hope authorities find the culprits who did this because this is absolutely outrageous and horrible. Camp long is an amazing place that anyone can go, now who knows if it’s gonna ever be that way again because of all history that has been swept away. We love you camp long ❤️

    • Sandra (Stone) Danjanic November 14, 2024 (5:51 am)

        I also hope that they find the creeps that did this.  I grew up on 35th Camp Long was my back yard.  I new every inch of that park plus I also volunteered there for a number of years. I live now in Yakima Wa. when I heard my heart broke from pain.  That lodge held so may memories for me and my friends.  They have to fix it. I will come and fight for Camp Long if need be.  I just hope Seattle isn’t as dumb as I think they are and let it be taken down. That would be a sad day….

  • Phonehome November 12, 2024 (6:34 pm)

    When our child was like a toddler we camped in one of the cabins overnight as a family. Our child is now 27 years old. Sad to know that someone started a fire on purpose and vandalized the two cabins. 

  • Grilled Cheese November 12, 2024 (6:44 pm)

    Sad to see this happen. People suck. Just wondering how you find a person just by looking at their blood. Seems complicated. 

  • Jen November 12, 2024 (6:55 pm)

    That is great they found blood droplets. DNA will eventually help catch at least one person especially if they are already in the system. 

  • D November 12, 2024 (8:59 pm)

    I work for a different City department but we had a cross departmental meeting today with SPR folx on an unrelated topic.  Everyone is absolutely devastated. We did get to share some personal memories of Camp Long.  I hope somehow they are able to catch who ever did this. 

    • 22blades November 13, 2024 (5:41 am)

      I appreciate the conversation at the admin level. I believe the longer term solutions & precautions start there. Short term? It’s done & happened & we need a path forward. Again thanks.

  • George November 12, 2024 (9:14 pm)

    10 years no early release no good time 

  • Helvetics Neue November 13, 2024 (6:18 am)

    I love that commentors here think the arsonist is a real criminal. 100% likely it’s yet another of the strung out no accountability drifters who have taken over the city. Boundaries must be set and enforced with populations that refuse to participate in society, or you lose the aspects of society we love so much.

    • 22blades November 13, 2024 (7:21 am)

      Ugh… Arson. That would fit the description of “a real criminal”.

    • Marcus November 13, 2024 (7:28 am)

      This is criminal by definition.

    • flimflam November 13, 2024 (11:00 am)

      Of course the arsonist is a “real criminal”, what an odd thing to say. Arson is about as serious a crime as there is…

    • K November 13, 2024 (12:17 pm)

      If you think the poor people living in tents in the woods get away with a lot, wait until you hear about corporations…

    • E November 13, 2024 (2:47 pm)

      100% likely”  So, you are 100% sure that you are not sure?

  • Christina Gallegos November 13, 2024 (8:34 am)

    This. Incompetence at its best! I have been worried that our green belts would be the victims of our homeless crisis, never this beautiful WPA building! This, is why we had a caretaker on site for over 20 years. Homeless have been breaking in to the cabins. They  knew this, and did nothing. Oh yea, nice way to find out the city is shirking their Environmental Education programs to another Public/private relationship. Ugh?!

    • Sarah November 13, 2024 (1:52 pm)

      I have frequently wondered about lack of security / surveillance here. Really questionable that apparently… there was none?

  • Gerry November 13, 2024 (8:42 am)

    A real loss, but kudos to the Fire Department for saving most of it.     The construction experts will have to weigh in, but hopefully enough salvaged so can rebuild.    Just tearing down seems like giving up and letting the arsonist win.

  • Gofundme November 13, 2024 (8:53 am)

    How about we set up a GoFundMe and get some money for restoration?  In the meantime, for some reason, I think it’s more than one arsonist…. probably a group of stupid juveniles? Words can’t say how much that building and entire park means to me. Like many others: I did spend overnight there when I was a student here in West Seattle. It was absolute magic.. the inside of the lodge included tremendous Custom wood work as well as being gorgeous architecturally. I agree with the person who wrote in that they should use dogs to try to follow the scent.. I am very angry!!!😤 

  • Heather November 13, 2024 (9:08 am)

    How can we help rebuild?  Like so many, this place means so much to me and I want to see it restored.

  • TMJ November 13, 2024 (10:28 am)

    I wholeheartedly trust in the SFD and SPD.  I have no doubt they’ll be able to work out a suspect.  What a tragedy at who’d do this.

  • Vlad November 13, 2024 (12:28 pm)

    Camp Long is a West Seattle treasure.  Tragic enough that there was a fire, but most disturbing that it was arson.  Arsonists rarely stop after one fire, there is a dangerous person or persons out there.  I hope they are apprehended, but my greatest hope right now is that the buildings are rebuilt.  We can’t give in to vandals.

  • Marcus November 13, 2024 (3:22 pm)

    Yeah, 7-11 robberies, car thefts, shooting guns at homes, and now arson of a treasured facility. Seattle residents need to wake up, grow up and start treating these issues as real and not one off. Crime and vandalism occurs because it is easy for the perps.

  • ANOTHER fire!???? November 13, 2024 (4:56 pm)

    There have been SO many fires. Is there a detective investigating?? What is wrong with people? Whoever did this, you suck and you will be caught. 

  • RayWest November 14, 2024 (2:58 pm)

    I don’t care what it takes, but this West Seattle jewel needs to be fully restored and the valuable environmental program preserved. As was already suggested, get a GoFundMe started, then Camp Long Foundation to steer it into the future.

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