WEST SEATTLE LIGHT RAIL: Here’s the Sound Transit route/station-location recommendations for first of two major votes

By month’s end, the Sound Transit Board of Directors is expected to make its final decision on routing and station locations for West Seattle light rail. The first step is a vote at next Thursday’s System Expansion Committee meeting. The agenda for that meeting is out, and with it, the proposed resolution spelling out Sound Transit staff’s recommendation for the routing and station locations. The recommendation mirrors the “preferred alternative” from the Final Environmental Impact Statement – in short, the segments titled SODO 1c, DUW-1a, DEL-6b, and WSJ-5b (to find them more quickly, check the Executive Summary). The recommendation keeps all three proposed West Seattle stations (Delridge, Avalon, Junction). Here’s how the routing is described in words, without graphics, in the proposed board resolution:

The route, profile, and stations for the West Seattle Link Extension are identified in the following paragraphs (as generally described in the West Seattle Link Extension Final Environmental Impact Statement):

A. SODO Segment: The West Seattle Link Extension would begin just north of the existing SODO Station and travel at-grade west of and parallel to the existing Link light rail line replacing the SODO Busway. It would continue south at-grade under South Lander Street, which would be reconstructed as an overpass over the new and existing light rail. It would transition to an elevated guideway south of South Lander Street.

The new SODO Station would be at-grade, immediately west of the existing SODO Station. The existing at-grade pedestrian crossing of the light rail tracks at SODO Station would be closed, and a new pedestrian grade-separated crossing of both existing and new tracks would be used to access both stations. There would be a station access from the new South Lander Street bridge. Access to 4th Avenue South would occur via South Lander Street.

B. Duwamish Segment: Elevated route would continue along the west side of the existing light rail line, south from South Forest Street; continuing southwest to cross over to the south side of the Spokane Street Bridge and the West Seattle Bridge. The guideway would continue west and to the south side of the West Seattle Bridge, crossing over the Duwamish Waterway and Harbor Island on a new high-level fixed bridge. The height of the bridge could be adjusted through coordination with the United States Coast Guard. The guideway would then cross the northern edge of Pigeon Point in a combination of elevated guideway and retained cut-and-fill; turning southwest on an elevated structure that follows Delridge Way Southwest.

C. Delridge Segment: Elevated route would continue along the west side of Delridge Way Southwest, north of Southwest Andover Street. The elevated guideway would travel west along the north side of Southwest Yancy Street then cross Southwest Avalon Way, transitioning from elevated to at-grade in the vicinity of 32nd Avenue Southwest. The guideway would turn south to travel south along the east side of the West Seattle Bridge connection to Fauntleroy Way Southwest and transition into a retained cut.

The Delridge Station would be elevated north of Southwest Andover Street and west of Delridge Way Southwest in a northeast-southwest orientation.

D. West Seattle Junction Segment: Tunnel route would begin in a retained cut south of Southwest Yancy Street and follows the east side of the West Seattle Bridge/Fauntleroy Way Southwest to Southwest Genesee Street, entering into a tunnel at Southwest Genesee Street and 37th Avenue Southwest and curving southwest west of 37th Avenue Southwest to 41st Avenue Southwest to terminate at Southwest Hudson Street, with tail track in a north-south orientation under 41st Avenue Southwest. Preferred Option WSJ-5b is a refinement of Alternative WSJ-5 analyzed in the Draft EIS, and it was refined based on the Sound Transit Board’s direction to explore an option to shift a station entrance to 42nd Avenue Southwest at the Alaska Junction Station to improve access to the Alaska Junction.

The Avalon Station would be in a lidded retained cut south of Southwest Genesee Street, beneath 35th Avenue Southwest.

The Alaska Junction Station would be in a tunnel beneath 41st Avenue Southwest and Southwest Alaska Street. Station entrances would be on either side of Southwest Alaska Street. The entrance south of Southwest Alaska Street would be on the west side of 41st Avenue Southwest. The entrance north of Southwest Alaska Street would be on the east side of 41st Avenue Southwest.

The System Expansion Committee could vote on this resolution as-is, or could decide to amend it. Their meeting is scheduled to start at 1:30 pm Thursday (October 10) in the Santa Fe Room at Union Station downtown (401 S. Jackson); the meeting will also be streamed, as explained on the agenda, which also has information on how to comment. The next major step after this meeting is expected when the full board meets two weeks later.

ABOUT THE COST: As reported when the Final Environmental Impact Statement was published, the West Seattle extension’s cost projection has swollen, potentially past $7 billion. The decision on routing and station locations does not include an allotment of construction money; it moves the project further down the design road, which is expected to take three more years. Past the midway point in design is usually when a “baseline” budget will be set and approved, for example. At last month’s meeting, board members passed this motion “directing the (CEO) to develop a workplan on measures the agency will pursue to address rising project costs and inform future baselining decisions.”

40 Replies to "WEST SEATTLE LIGHT RAIL: Here's the Sound Transit route/station-location recommendations for first of two major votes"

  • Alf October 5, 2024 (8:26 am)

    The new estimate of 7 billion, if history repeats itself will swell even further not worth the  money for a 4 plus miles, improve the current bus system to strategic junctions to downtown where folks can transfer Proptery  owners can’t afford this, you have your boot on our neck in the ability to stay in our homes,  someone is making a ton of money off this bloated ill conceived project and it’s not the community and residents of west Seattle 

    • K October 5, 2024 (1:55 pm)

      The improvement to the existing bus system IS the light rail.  There’s a driver shortage that’s not projected to get better.  Busses still take up space on the roads, which is still limited.  They have their place, but there is no amount of brainstorming that will resolve these two issues that still have you in a bus at the end of the day.  The light rail cost is going up because of this kind of hand-wringing.  Just accept reality and build it already.

      • Scarlett October 5, 2024 (4:22 pm)

        And a $7B light rail will do nothing to solve any of those problems – you do realize that, K?  Light rail has made zero difference in every other West Coast city and in some cases, only snarled traffic such as S. Los Angeles where the E line exits the underground and shares the road with motorists.  Portland?  Where has light rail alleviated traffic there?  Sacramento?  In Sacramento, light rail rattles around town like a Christmas decoration.  Stop drinking the kool-aid, you’ve been had. 

        • Amigo October 5, 2024 (7:26 pm)

          Scarlett, it’s simple: traffic cannot be solved for cars because of a simple concept called induced demand, look it up. The train solves traffic for the people who take the train – unlike busses, which force commuters to sit in car traffic. Around 30% of people don’t drive. This city and country have pandered to car people in countless ways to the tune of billions of dollars of subsidies, 40k lives annually, and immeasurable pollution. It’s ok to build some infrastructure to allow (and encourage) people to get around the city without sitting in your traffic. 

        • K October 5, 2024 (7:37 pm)

          Scarlett, you know light rail has been very popular in every other neighborhood in Seattle where it runs, which is probably why you never bring up ridership or cite any local naysaying from those who live in Beacon Hill, etc.  Burying your head in the sand and continuing to spew your fantasies disguised as “education” for the poor, ignorant West Seattleites that don’t know what they voted for was tiresome from the beginning, and a year+ on is an even worse look.

    • KT October 7, 2024 (8:41 am)

      You are spot on! West Seattle does not need this project. It’s been hyped up and will not ‘fix’ traffic. I just see graffiti all over the concrete that unfortunately will replace trees, property taxes rising too high, a ton of more noise especially for the houses and apartments around the stations, etc. Has anyone thought about the fact that the West Seattle bridge can be tolled (which will rise over the years) to help pay for this inflated price gouging cost in the billions? Look into how the Ballard’s delay is due to cost. So many people are being fooled into thinking this will improve the commute for West Seattle residents (car or no car). It’s not only people without a car that will use the light rail but people will also be driving to the light rail stations, clogging up the surrounding streets and you will have to take a bus to the light rail stations anyway if you don’t live within a certain distance from the stations. People have to understand that West Seattle will deteriorate if it’s turned into NY or LA.  Born and raised here and I’m in my 40’s. My insight comes from living here my whole life. I am for change and improvement but this light rail is not an improvement and will have a negative impact on West Seattle. 

      • ExVancouverite October 7, 2024 (12:37 pm)

        I highly suggest you make the 3 hour drive up to Vancouver, BC to see other examples of rails beyond LA. Ones that are successfully serving outer neighbourhoods -though WS’s close proximity to downtown can hardly compare to (Vancouver’s) Surrey or Coquitlam neighbourhoods. According to an architecture friend, Seattle will never become an LA or NY because our city grew and evolved differently, so you don’t need to worry about us facing the same problems. I’m not telling you what to think but do want to share some additional insight for your consideration.

  • Question Authority October 5, 2024 (9:25 am)

    Stop the nonsense and focus on fixing what already exists and quit putting expensive lipstick on a pig.

  • Al October 5, 2024 (12:12 pm)

    Yes! Let’s build this thing already. The reason the price keeps inflating is because of all the foot dragging and past false starts. The longer we wait to join the rest of the advanced world by having a comprehensive rail system the more expensive it will be to build it. 

  • WSEnvironmentalist October 5, 2024 (12:37 pm)

    OMG!  The Lander Street Bridge just opened in 2020 at a cost of $100 million.  If I understand the proposal, it will be torn down and rebuilt.  Then there is  Delridge Way and the lengthy/costly construction that was just completed for bus lanes and safety upgrades.  How much did that cost?  Crossing the Duwamish with another bridge like the West Seattle Bridge which took from 1978 to 1984 to plan and build based upon US Coast Guard Requirements  – where is the right of way?  Is BNSF going to sell the City/County/State the right of way that is currently the perpetually raised railway bridge?  What about the EPA?  And 2 tunnels bored under homes and business … or are they going to use  eminent domain?  Think Monorail.  Finally, this is just the plan and it will take another 3 years before that part is completed.  So 2024, almost 2025 before the beginning of the 3 year planning = 2028 for finalize.  Then acquiring the rights of way, which will be at least 24 to 36 mo with lawsuits and permits = maybe 2031/32?  Funding – We’ll have an ST4 in the next 24 months to cover the current cost overruns and to pay of the $7 billinon plus for WS extension we’ll need an ST5 (and Ballard will need a bunch of money due to the bridge crossing for that one).   So we might, if we’re lucky, have light rail in West Seattle by 2041-43.  Our neighbors have  children who  are 6 and 3 yrs old will be 24 and 21 in the 17 years it takes from now until WS light rail is completed.   That is a VERY long trajectory, especially since  Light Rail began construction in 2003 = 40 years from start to the projected finish and who knows at what cost monetarily and inconvenience. 

    • anonyme October 5, 2024 (1:15 pm)

      Absolutely agree.  It has always amazed me that construction projects are never coordinated, and one often destroys newly completed work on another.  It’s too obvious to be accidental.  And now they’re ordering a new “workplan” to “address rising project costs”.  In other words, waste more money getting nowhere.  This boondoggle is booming.

      • Bbron October 5, 2024 (2:17 pm)

        the original post is incorrect in their assessment that the newly constructed projects will be demolished in any way. when was the last time a construction project by SDOT, etc. had to demolish a recently completed project (since it happens often)?

    • Mr J October 5, 2024 (1:37 pm)

      First off, I read it as a new overpass on Lander meaning by the current light rail tracks, not displacing the current BNSF tracks.We’re building this for the future. Just because we don’t get instant gratification and 1-day shipping doesn’t mean it gets scrapped. It’s voted on and a done deal.  The powers that be should and likely are looking for extra federal funding to cover some of this. But that’s what happens when the tunnel crowd gets their way. Will it look nicer, yes, but now it’s costing a lot more.

      • LoveYourCity October 9, 2024 (2:56 pm)

        How long have you lived in Seattle? Do you own a home in West Seattle or anywhere in Seattle?  How many committee meetings or involvement are you with the discussions at City Council?  The facts are outlined above by people that have researched, lived through it and most likely worked for the contractors/were part of the city officials committees.  How is 20+ years from initiating an expectations same day delivery?  To me, you are not utilizing emotional intelligence or facts. This is not an issue to treat like a domestic household dispute. This is a big ticket item that all the taxpayers have to have their lives interupted & have to pay, when most cannot already afford the excess spending or taxing forced upon residence/small business owners.  Curate a logical debate after sitting  down doing a timeline, input all cost factors, add all possible/proven disruptors for residence + business and look at the prior history of Seattle completing transportation projects.  You can use the 99 tunnel which is the worst investment by the government, voted down by the community.  The tunnel only serves those with significicant discretionary income/those that can afford  luxuries that many cannot afford.  Also, you can research the monarail because we still don’t know where all that money dissapeared to..  There is no way that hourly wages/most saleries  will ever meet the cost to live in King County to pay basic needs or taxes with one job.  This is Seattle, not New York, San Francisco and it’s too late to force our water ways or current development to pretend that we will every be Europe or any Asian city.  

    • Pp October 5, 2024 (8:36 pm)

      Nothing here but rambling disinformation. There is nothing anywhere that says or implies the Lander bridge over the railroad would be demolished. Anyone who knows where that is vs. where the light rail is can see your lie for the half faced lie it is. The rest of your incoherent rant is pure fiction from your own imagination. 

  • Kt October 5, 2024 (1:00 pm)

    If the now defunct Washington Mutual Bank hadn’t spent $1 million on legal fees to kill the monorail in the early 2000s, we might already be riding that downtown train.

  • alkiannie October 5, 2024 (1:36 pm)

    Who do I write a letter to or call to stop this insanity? 

    • Bus Rider October 5, 2024 (6:02 pm)

      rethinkthelink.org  has the information you might be looking for

      • WS resident October 6, 2024 (6:35 am)

        Thank you for providing this link! It’s precisely the information we AREN’T being told about this ST3 WSLE boondoggle.

        • K October 6, 2024 (7:10 pm)

          It’s the exact misinformation and misdirection that Sound Transit has had to waste time and money countering, causing delays that increased the price tag.  Literally tens of millions of your tax dollars have been wasted as a direct result of that group’s lobbying, and it hasn’t changed anything because Sound Transit’s facts are sound (no pun intended).

      • walkerws October 7, 2024 (10:04 am)

        rethink the link is a deeply unserious organization spreading misinformation.

  • JW October 5, 2024 (2:18 pm)

    Where is the money coming from to pay for this project?

    • K October 5, 2024 (5:49 pm)

      Some funding is from the federal government, the rest is from a property tax levy.

    • 1994 October 5, 2024 (9:56 pm)

      Remember that  funding for ST also comes from the vehicle license tab taxes everyone pays!  In 2023 fares  for ST link light rail system only covered 16% of operating costs! The rest must come from taxes? At almost 2 billion per mile kinda makes you think is it worth it for 4 miles and then many millions more in operating costs?

      • WSB October 5, 2024 (10:00 pm)

        That’s on the page to which I linked. The four tax sources listed are: Property tax, sales tax, motor-vehicle excise tax, and rental-car tax.

    • Wseattleite October 5, 2024 (11:08 pm)

      From us.  Each and every cent.  

      • Jason October 7, 2024 (7:55 am)

        Worth it. Get it built.

  • Bronwyn October 5, 2024 (7:03 pm)

    Any Sound Transit taxing district resident opposed to the construction of the West Seattle light rail extension has three paths of action:1. Use emailtheboard@soundtransit.org to contact all board members. As 17 of its 18 members are elected officials, and accountable to voters, each can be contacted directly by their own constituents.o The Seattle members include City Council Member Daniel Strauss, Mayor Bruce Harrell, Council Member Rob Saka **, ST Board Chair Dow Constantine **, and King County Council Member Girmay Zahilay. (** indicates lives in West Seattle). City Council Member Rob Saka chairs the City Council’s Transportation Committee. King County Council Member Teresa Mosqueda also lives in West Seattle.o Include specific information from this document in messages to officialso Contact board and council members by letter, phone and email, and urge (or demand)that they:§ Stand up for businesses, jobs, housing, communities, and the environment inSeattle.§ Call for adopting the No Build Option still listed in the FEIS for WSLE and visiblefor years in the DEIS for WSBLE.§ Require Sound Transit to consider cheaper, less destructive, lower carbontransit options for the Downtown-West Seattle corridor than rail.§ Support using other modes, including buses, bus rapid transit, and other transitservice connections to the regional rail network

  • Citizen Joe October 6, 2024 (12:03 am)

    If $7B means less cars, less traffic, less danger to pedestrians and other drivers, then that’s worth many saved lives. The less cars and maniacs on the road, the better. It’s the new millennium, let’s build our cities like it.

  • BJG October 6, 2024 (9:37 am)

    Obviously West Seattle is a peninsula with 16 square miles and more than a dozen neighborhoods that are miles apart. People are not going to be biking, walking, ubering, busing to the three very closely clustered light rail stations. SEVEN BILLION  PLUS DOLLARS will not get the “cars and maniacs” off the road. They and the safe drivers will still be driving themselves because they need to get to where they need to be. The wait, wait, wait, wait, is a ridiculous commute. The West Seattle Light Rail stub is going to be an underutilized, expensive, unsightly relic. 

    • Scarlett October 6, 2024 (8:40 pm)

      Bingo. 

    • stupidinseattle October 8, 2024 (6:06 pm)

      Spot on.  Too bad West Seattle voters didn’t think for themselves when they blindly and overwhelmingly approved the $54B Phase 3 Light Rail on a vague, poorly defined proposal back in 2016.  Now, after 8 years of paying excessive car and property taxes this Seattle neighborhood has sunk tons of its money into “our” light rail line.  And…at $7B the money grab on us by Sound Transit will continue into Century 22.  

  • C October 6, 2024 (9:40 am)

    There is not as much opposition as the blog comments suggests. Stay the course. The budget bloats when people oppose for no good reason except NIMBYism. For people who are worried about this “only”extending 4 miles to SODO – it’s part of a larger plan to extend to Ballard. The people creating these plans are not dummies. 

  • Jason October 7, 2024 (7:53 am)

    I am emailing in SUPPORT of both the Avalon station and the preferred recommended route. Let’s get it built!

  • platypus October 7, 2024 (9:46 am)

    I keep seeing the “$7B for 4 miles” comment. I think its disingenuous too at it this way. We need to look at the full Link project for the region, some miles will be cheaper to build, some more expensive. Our topography is one of the reasons we all choose to live here as it provides the our great views and interesting city. It also makes things more expensive at times. We are buying a full regional light rail system. It will allow us to connect and go everyone the system goes. People in West Seattle will be able to get to the airport by train, or up to Everett, or out the east side. An analogy would be like building a house, it costs more to add the kitchen or bathroom if you look at cost per square foot of just those rooms when you build them, but that doesn’t mean they arent important to the whole project. We are building 116 miles at an estimated cost of $131 B, or $1.13B/mile. This is amazing, world class system in the works. On top of that the users will pay fares, more than we can say for the car infrastructure.

    • C October 7, 2024 (10:07 pm)

      Yes, thank you. We need to look at the bigger picture and what the future needs. Transit is always the answer. It is the largest greenhouse gas culprit in King County and the only way to reduce it is to invest in it. There’s a reason why Europe has such lauded transit — they invest in it!! 

  • AF12 October 7, 2024 (9:55 pm)

    Connectivity to the full
    Sound Transit Link project for the region from West Seattle doesn’t have to
    occur via rail system as proposed (i.e., $7B plus for 4 miles to carry 27,000
    riders).  How about a dedicated transit route from WS to SODO which will
    include buses and bikes only bridge across Duwamish
    Waterway which will feed for example by Rapid Ride C, H line and such?  
    I wonder how much that is going to cost?  Do I hear possibly
    less than one billion dollars?

    • Jason October 8, 2024 (9:28 am)

      No. We want lightrail. 

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