Dangerous driving dominates discussion as City Councilmember Rob Saka talks with Alki Community Council

(WSB photos unless otherwise credited)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

The main event at last night’s Alki Community Council meeting was a conversation with District 1 City Councilmember Rob Saka, in his fourth West Seattle community Q&A in a little over two weeks

ACC president Charlotte Starck said she wanted to “set the stage for the conversation” with the context that Alki isn’t just another neighborhood, it’s a “gem for the city of Seattle … but the city does not seem to manage to the crowds when they flex,” and that means a lot of chronic problems go unchecked.

Before she got into specifics – starting with questions received before the meeting – Saka introduced himself, saying “you don’t just win and turn it off .. I’m here right now putting in the work …” and giving a shoutout to his support staff, two of whom were present, district-relations director Leyla Gheisar and policy adviser Heather Marx.

Starck had opened with the topic of dangerous driving along Alki, including two crashes in the past year involving allegedly drunk drivers and cars ending up in the water.

(Reader photo, July 2023)

Regarding the traffic disorder in general, Saka declared, “The city needs to do better … in enforcing existing laws,” while noting the challenges posed by the current level of police staffing, saying he and his fellow councilmembers plan to work with the mayor to get the hundreds of vacant SPD jobs filled. Saka also said that “there’s an opportunity to add better safety features” on the road, and tasked SDOT with that, saying they’d consult with community members “on what those safety features might be.”

Starck then noted how difficult it seems to get speed bumps installed (the ones added semi-recently on Alki followed years of community requests). Does Councilmember Saka endorse more traffic-calming devices? “Absolutely,” Saka replied. He said most people visit Alki Beach “for great reasons … but there are some less than desirable things that happen too .. SPD enforcement is part of a holistic approach …” as well as SDOT actions via road design.

One stretch of Alki Avenue, Starck said, is conducive to high-speed driving, “90 to 100 mph,” So she wondered about the status of the speed-activated traffic cameras that could be enabled by the previous City Council’s vote last year to allow them in “racing zones.” Saka did not seem familiar with that strategy – for which his D-1 predecessor Lisa Herbold had advocated – but said he would “love to learn more” about this “so we can best advocate and support.” However, he said he’s not a big fan overall of automated enforcement: “I am somewhat skeptical … they have a deterrent effect to some extent but also I don’t think the primary use of those technologies should be to fill city coffers. … I don’t support wide mass automated technology around the city … but it makes a lot of sense in key areas and Alki is one of them.”

Wouldn’t cameras save money? asked Starck, noting that the city is said to be facing a big budget shortfall. Saka acknowledged that but added “I am committed from my perspective to prioritize anything tied to public safety,” so “let us work together” to make something happen.

One attendee said the Admiral Way school zone (leading to the past and future location of Alki Elementary) should be included too. The 63rd Avenue SW straightaway from Alki to Beach was mentioned too; one attendee said the 63rd SW/Beach Drive crossing needs flashing pedestrian-safety beacons, because “drivers just plow through.”

Lots of trouble spots, agreed Starck, then reiterating to Saka that, in other matters too, the city doesn’t seem to acknowledge Alki as a “destination place … “How do we change the mindset of City Hall from, it’s just Alki neighbors complaining, to, this is a (regionally relevant) problem … it’s our whole Puget Sound gem.” As examples of other issues, she showed photos of overflowing trash cans and suspected unauthorized vendors. Saka responded, “How do we get the city to recognize that (regional relevance)? I recognize that … I’m right here,” declaring it’s important to encourage visitation while minimizing the impacts of troublemakers. “I’m committed to working with you all to make sure we get the attention and resources you need.”

Not just Alki, but all of Seattle will be in a brighter spotlight in two years, he added, saying he’d met earlier in the day with Deputy Mayor Greg Wong (and noting Wong’s West Seattle roots), talking about the 2026 World Cup, when “the world descends on our city.” He said they discussed how people would be gathering not only in the stadium zone but elsewhere too. “A lot of people are going to be here.”

ACC vice president Lindsey Pearsall asked a question about “senior safety” and the city’s lack of specifics on how to improve that. Saka didn’t directly address the subject of that question but promised that what results from the city’s new Transportation Plan ([corrected] considered last week by the council’s Transportation Committee, which he chairs) will benefit seniors among others. He then brought up the transportation-levy renewal – not yet unveiled but expected to be soon – which he hopes will focus heavily on bridge maintenance and preservation, plus a major investment in missing sidewalks. He said District 1 has the second highest number of missing sidewalks in the city. “(Adding more) will make a big difference in the everyday lives of people.”

Back to the Transportation Plan: Pearsall wondered about the projects it highlights (see our report) and how to get some moved up. “Everything can’t be a Tier 1 priority,” cautioned Saka. But “there is a role for political and community feedback” to figure out how to prioritize some things. “It’s gonna take all of us.”

Then Starck asked about the controversy over a city-funded tribal art project planned for West Seattle Bridge columns, one mile from the Duwamish Tribe‘s Longhouse but excluding them. “What will you do to ensure West Seattle’s Duwamish Tribe is included in that specific project?” Saka’s reply: “My commitment is ‘nothing about you, without you’,” but he said he can’t commit to anything but “doing the work and making sure whatever position I do take is as informed as possible.” He said he hadn’t met with the Duwamish before this was scheduled but tabled at a recent Transportation Committee meeting [WSB coverage here] but has a meeting scheduled with the tribe next week. He also made a point of saying that the city has no control over federal recognition of the Duwamish Tribe (though the question wasn’t about its lack of that recognition, but rather who the city will include in a city-funded project on a city-owned structure).

The floor then opened to a few more questions from the three-dozen-plus in attendance. One said that the city “has a lot of cracks that things fall through … SDOT is not very transparent” and that they only address ‘what they measure” but problems residents are having “are not measured” and therefore “not addressed.” Saka agreed there are “blind spots in their approach.” He said his job includes “better oversight function …”

Another attendee: “What’s the best way for us to engage with your office to get things done? How do we engage and help us represent us?” Saka replied, “My job is to help you all … best way to reach me is via email, rob.saka@seattle.gov – everyone in his office (sees it)” but you can cc them too (here are their addresses) … He has regular office hours, and urged the use of other city toools, Find It Fix It, pothole reporting (which is where he voiced his obligatory self-declared “King of Potholes'” mention in), graffiti reporting, more. Office hours with constituents are every other Friday; they’ll be in South Park today (Friday) and in two weeks they hope to be back at Southwest Customer Service Center.

One person asked for confirmation about the Alki Stay Healthy Street project, that it is indeed on track to its final design being built. Starck pointed out this week’s mailing list reiteration (WSB coverage here). Saka didn’t say anything about it.

Another speaker urged transparency; Saka promised he is committed to that.

The last person to speak said the upcoming levy renewal should be shelved until data is available on a variety of problems and that the city should “put (it) on hold until issues in the quality of life have been dealt with.” Saka said again that he’s focused on public safety and transportation, but didn’t comment on whether shelving the levy would be a possibility.

ALSO AT THE MEETING: Before Saka’s appearance, the ACC heard from two Seattle Police representatives. Community Liaison Officer German Barreto recapped area crime from the past month-plus (overall, nothing major). He also recapped the recent safety training hosted by ACC and presented by SPD reps (him included) – contact Sarah Lawson to set up a class. … Community Service Officer Dennise introduced the recently announced Courageous Lions for Courageous Kids program, with the Seattle Police Foundation (a nonprofit group that supports some SPD programs) funding stuffed lions that officers can offer to children going through traumatic situations.

(Seattle Police Foundation photo)

It was inspired by an 11-year-old who had to call 911 from his Apple Watch during an emergency.

CLEANUP REMINDER: Starck reminded attendees that the ACC is proudly partnering with Erik Bell of A Cleaner Alki (whose work ranges far beyond the beach), and that you can find out about three regular cleanups, and other events, via his website.

NEXT MEETING: ACC meets most months on the third Thursday at 7 pm, at Alki UCC (6115 SW Hinds) – watch alkicommunitycouncil.org for updates.

52 Replies to "Dangerous driving dominates discussion as City Councilmember Rob Saka talks with Alki Community Council"

  • T. Anderson March 22, 2024 (1:37 pm)

    Unfortunately with the new Councilman we at Harbor and Alki Aves, who hoped to see some action regarding dangerous traffic and reckless drivers, are back at square one.  At least that is how I interpreted this recap and Mr. Saka’s lack of awareness (granted he is new.)

  • Josh March 22, 2024 (2:34 pm)

    Road design changes will curb speed issues. Saka has been abundantly clear that he detests or diminishes the need and effect of quality road design improvements. His answer to everything so far is “more cops”. Ok fine, but until then can we do stuff that is both possible and actually works?  You know like improved road design and speed cameras.  Short of Rob finding a cavern full of eager unemployed policemen somewhere don’t expect much from the guy but pretty words. 

    • Brandon March 22, 2024 (3:09 pm)

      Cars have been on Alki for a long time. Have speed issues always been this big an issue? A: No. Roads were the same before, but speeds have changed, what else has changed? A: Cops, and society’s lack of consequence.  How do you remedy that? A: Consequence. Seems like a pretty straight-line conclusion to me.

      Imagine trying to cruise around Alki like times of yore except you hit a speed bump every half block. Yeah – Wonderful. Better yet, let’s just make it a one lane road and ruin everybody’s fun.

      If speeding wasn’t a problem before and road designs haven’t changed, then the road designs aren’t the problem. NEXT!

      • WSB March 22, 2024 (3:19 pm)

        Yes, speeding was a problem before. Some very notable and tragic incidents in the ’00s (before we went full-time news with WSB, but I was working in the TV-news biz and living here, so long memory) – same stretch of Alki Ave, in fact:

      • Jay March 22, 2024 (3:29 pm)

        Cheaper and more powerful cars. A 2024 Toyota Camry can do 0-60 faster than a 1960 Shelby Cobra. Budget cars today absolutely destroy muscle cars of yore in acceleration, speed, handling, and suspension.

      • Dog Whisperer March 22, 2024 (3:30 pm)

        Got it Brandon. We won’t see traffic cops or speed/radar traps in Seattle again for a long time. Maybe never again. Speed bumps slow people down whether they like it or not. When it comes to the safety of my neighbors then yeah, do what it takes to slow people down. Those of us who live here understand the importance of safety and most of us drive accordingly. Because we don’t want to be remembered for running over our neighbors. 

      • platypus March 22, 2024 (4:23 pm)

        There are non-speed bump approaches to safe street design. The answer is slow traffic, you can do that with narrow lanes, filled and planted center medians, side barriers where applicable. The past is over, we have to deal with present. Cars are much larger, heavier and have worse visibility. Streets are for people and a single life lost is a failure. Traffic enforcement is only good for the moments police are they to watch, good design is 24/7/365 and a fraction of the cost.

        • Brandon March 22, 2024 (5:56 pm)

          Streets are for cars, not people.  You’re confusing sidewalks.  Speed limits don’t reduce speeding, it increases it because your rendering traffic patterns stupid slow. People who drove 35th and Delridge 10-15 years ago are still going 30-35 today because the speed limit at 25 is ridiculous. Here’s my clear point – 26 miles per hour plus = “speeding”. 

          The people we’re after are those going 50+ in 35s. But we’re all being delayed further and increasing traffic times and they’re still doing those same speeds.  Way to lose and feel like you won.  In schools, when one kid is acting up, you don’t hold the whole class back a grade.  You mitigate the situation for that kid.  Why would our road conditions we share be any different than the classroom.

          The idea that a single life lost being a failure is wild.  You can’t control the actions of idiots with vehicles no matter how hard you try.  If that’s your measure of success you might as well be advocating a ban on all cars, bikes, and scooters, delivery trucks and semis.  Otherwise, it’s an idealistic yet unachievable metric that justifies everything under the sun in lockstep against what would reasonably be your better interests. “Think, Mcfly, Think!”

          • D-Ridge March 22, 2024 (6:14 pm)

            Delridge is the worst example as it is literally different than it was 10 years ago as medians were installed north of Juneau and people speed down that section far less as a result (I say this as someone who lives ON Delridge). Drivers used to drag race using the middle turn almost weekly, and I would get passed on Delridge by people doing 60+ constantly. I have a whole phone album of car accidents I took photos of on Delridge pre-2019 (like this one). I now haven’t personally seen a crash on that section since the project finished. Rechannelizations are incredibly effective, and Delridge itself provides that evidence.

          • Jort March 22, 2024 (6:41 pm)

            You can’t control the actions of idiots with vehicles no matter how hard you try.

             What?! My goodness, have you ever been outside of this country? You absolutely can mitigate and control risk, even (and especially) the risk of people driving! I find it very strange that you’re instructing people to “Think, Mcfly, Think” when the overwhelming majority of the developed world actually has thought about this, deeply, and has instituted the kinds of transformational changes required to reduce traffic fatalities and collisions, and let me tell you something, it wasn’t because they hired a bunch more cops. The choice before us in safety and risk reduction isn’t “more cops vs. banning cars.” My goodness, honestly. Please, honestly, look into what other countries have done in this space! Somehow other countries have managed to have traffic deaths be a fraction of the U.S.’s, yet didn’t ban cars. Really! Please, with all this instruction you’re giving us “think,” wow, do you really think that this hasn’t been thought of at the deepest levels? Reducing traffic deaths is absolutely and totally achievable, and there is global evidence to prove this. America is the outlier, and what we are currently doing isn’t working. My absolute goodness.

          • JAT March 23, 2024 (5:08 pm)

            Absolutely wrong.  Roads are  for people (who do you think is driving the cars?), and we must never forget it. 

          • HalfCarHalfHuman March 25, 2024 (9:58 am)

            absolutely hilarious you get hot and bothered think it’s everyone else clogging up the roads, it’s awful how you are being slowed down, and that needs to change; yet you write off people dying for the sake of car centric infrastructure as just a “cost of doing business”. i never see such gold medal mental gymnastics performances like i do reading comments from car maximalists. you’re all over this comment section talking about “common sense,” but it doesn’t look like you applied any critical thinking to the stuff you wrote: you minimize speeding at 30-35 mph is okay, yet the different in a car’s energy and the time it takes for the driver to react mean that difference in speed doubles your stopping distance and likelihood of killing a pedestrian if hit. so, no, your speeding isn’t ethical because you think the numbers are small and you don’t understand the physics. btw, did you actually calculate the difference in times for trips if you go 25 vs 35 mph? i bet u didn’t, because you would figure out you’re arguing over ideally a few minutes of time. but it sure feels like it’s significant when you’re tailing behind a “slow” car going the speed limit when you are in a rush to get somewhere. you are misapplying the word “common sense” when you’d be better suited with “my reactive feelings”.

    • Jort March 22, 2024 (4:08 pm)

      Road design changes would absolutely help to curb speed issues (and the hazards that speeding introduces). It would be cheaper and more effective than law enforcement and it would have considerable positive outgrowths for the community, too. But it’s important to think about the feasibility of design changes in a social environment where the median human brain has the same level of protectionism and attachment to their personal vehicles as parents often do for their own human children. (I am not kidding. People react to the most anodyne alterations to the human-vehicle-road environment at the same level as parents do to mortal threats to their children. If you’re curious, take a look at the comments section of this very fine blog since, oh, the very first year of posting?) I am no fan of increasing law enforcement — it’s among the least effective possible ways to control hazardous behavior, from a systems safety perspective — but it is the only tool we have until we have politicians who are courageous enough to make the kinds of decisions necessary to fundamentally alter the ways that cars and their drivers impact society. “Behavioral enforcement” isn’t a great hazard control, but it’s the only one anybody will accept. Now, knowing this, Rob Saka can certainly, from his position, ask the Seattle Police to re-prioritize the department’s efforts on traffic enforcement, particularly since cars are one of Seattle’s largest sources of unintentional death and injury (and growing). But when Rob Saka says, “there’s nothing we can do until we hire more cops,” you should hear what he’s actually saying as, “we will tacitly accept an increasing level of deaths and injuries on our roads.” The police do not run this city; they can be told to prioritize traffic enforcement instead of, say, directing traffic out of sporting events. That’s a political choice Rob Saka can make. Otherwise, what he’s telling you is, “I will do absolutely nothing about this problem.” 

      • EFC March 22, 2024 (8:16 pm)

        “Particularly since cars are one of Seattle’s largest sources of unintentional death and injury (and growing). But when Rob Saka says, “there’s nothing we can do until we hire more cops,” you should hear what he’s actually saying as, “we will tacitly accept an increasing level of deaths and injuries on our roads.” The police do not run this city; they can be told to prioritize traffic enforcement instead of, say, directing traffic out of sporting events. That’s a political choice Rob Saka can make.”^^  This needed to be said.  Thank you Jort. Mr. Saka – if you’re reading this, we all want and deserve better. To paraphrase you : You can and must do better. 

  • testingtesting123 March 22, 2024 (2:46 pm)

    What are people’s thoughts on requesting paid parking in and around Alki?  2-hour or 4-hour paid parking with parking rates changed seasonally like  there is the  Ballard Locks?    

    • Dog Whisperer March 22, 2024 (3:34 pm)

      Paid parking in my opinion would be bad for everyone. It doesn’t stop overindulgence partying,  nor does it slow down drivers. If one lives on alki they usually don’t have difficulty finding a parking spot. If one doesn’t live on alki I’m against any barriers that prevent access to alki. People come from miles around to enjoy alki, as they should. Without obstacles or hindrance. 

    • platypus March 22, 2024 (4:24 pm)

      Great idea! I would ask that some of that funding goes toward better public transportation, make not driving the best choice.

    • Al King March 22, 2024 (4:35 pm)

      Paid parking would require a lot of enforcement. How many meter maids will you hire to write tickets? And, that will push beach users to park deeper in the neighborhood to get free parking.

    • Vee March 22, 2024 (4:40 pm)


    • Anne March 22, 2024 (4:43 pm)

      Is parking the problem here? Seems like folks find places to park fairly easily. Those that don’t park-cruise -like they’ve done for decades. 

    • Brandon March 22, 2024 (6:14 pm)

      Paid street parking? Everybody pays more money into the city’s purse to mismanage and waste at our very expense. Great idea.

      Next, we’ll be demanding Alki workers get paid more because their wages aren’t enough to pay for their parking fees. Then we’ll complain about our favorite restaurants closing because they couldn’t afford the costs to operate. Lastly, we’ll blame the capitalists.

      Unintended consequences galore. You’ve convinced me. I wholeheartedly expect this to happen now.

    • Mellow Kitty March 23, 2024 (10:34 am)

      Bad idea. People will clog residential street parking making it a nightmare for people who live in the area. 

  • D-Dridge March 22, 2024 (3:16 pm)

    Sounds like a lack of willingness to do anything at all to increase traffic safety because, what, people who break the law will have to pay a ticket? He’s worried about “filling the city’s coffers” when’s there’s a $200 million budget shortfall? What’s this guy offering besides empty rhetoric?

    • Jort March 22, 2024 (4:18 pm)

      I mean, he’s not totally stupid, he knows that traffic cameras will infuriate the vast majority of drivers to the point of apoplectic rage because the vast majority of drivers think speeding is ok when they do it. Any politician that puts up speed cameras is asking to get voted out. I mean, there are a million reasons why speed camera are, actually, quite valuable tools at improving road safety. But implementing them would be politically costly, and that, in turn, means Rob Saka is ok with the trade-offs of having a few extremely toxic cars fly off into our salmon and orca habitat vs. having angry voters. All the talk about “filling the city coffers” is one of the most common traffic safety red herrings (which we’ve heard for decades now). Nobody cares about how much money the city is making from the cameras. They care about getting caught speeding and they don’t think it’s fair. 

  • Jay March 22, 2024 (3:26 pm)

    I live in Puget Ridge with all off-street parking and speeding is a massive problem with the very wide roads. I’m starting to park in the street (which is legal) instead of in the off-street parking strip to visually narrow the street and slow down drivers. If we all do this, we can curb speeding in our neighborhoods. I believe the excessively wide lanes are why neighborhoods without sidewalks like Puget Ridge have >30mph traffic while neighborhoods like Admiral have much more reasonable and safe 15-20mph traffic.

  • Jeff F. March 22, 2024 (4:23 pm)

    Man… Saka is such a clueless stooge. I can’t believe we elected him over Maren Costa. 

    • D-Ridge March 22, 2024 (5:33 pm)

      Literally every other candidate anti-endorsed him, yet somehow folks here still weren’t convinced? I truly don’t get it, how much more warning do you need?

    • Justin March 22, 2024 (8:34 pm)

      I suspect that in 3 years, as he nears the end of his time on the Council, he’ll still be “getting up to speed”

    • WS Res March 22, 2024 (10:33 pm)

      Money buys a lot of democracy.

    • AMD March 22, 2024 (10:38 pm)

      People were more afraid of what Costa would do (increase taxes on big businesses that benefit disproportionately from taxpayer-subsidized infrastructure?  My pearls!) than Saka doing nothing.  He literally ran on a platform of “I’m gonna be like that guy” and then pointed to the 12-year councilmember and 3-year mayor who has done nothing in those 15 years.  So, yeah, this is was extremely predictable.

      • JenT March 23, 2024 (1:41 pm)

        Said a whole lot of nothing but did manage to kick things off still in campaign mode. Doesn’t bode well for WS IMO.Before she got into specifics – starting with questions received before the meeting – Saka introduced himself, saying “you don’t just win and turn it off .. I’m here right now putting in the work …” 

        • Jort March 23, 2024 (3:33 pm)

          This is truly a Harrell-esque sentiment. He’s got it dialed in. 

  • Anne March 22, 2024 (4:49 pm)

    I don’t understand why the city can’t install more speed bumps in a timely manner-they work. Waiting for SPD to hire enough  officers  that there’s plenty to spare for traffic control will take years. Speed bumps should take just days/weeks to install. Just do it. I too am getting tired of Mr. Saka’s  “ we need more law enforcement”  comments. Yes we do need more & we will get them-in the meantime there are other solutions

    • Alki Seltzer March 22, 2024 (5:27 pm)

      Speed bumps ruin the Alki experience for all drivers and passengers while not slowing down the speeders. I saw kids doing donuts in two sports cars last week in broad daylight in front of Don Armeni Park right next to speed bumps while blocking both directions of traffic. The other day I saw a expensive SUV full of young men actually accelerate to try to get airborne over a speed bump. Alki will never be safe until we have enough police patrolling it again.

      • K March 22, 2024 (10:35 pm)

        Alki is a beach.  How in the name of car dependence does a feature you only notice while in a car NOT on the beach, ruin your experience ON the beach?

        • Alki Seltzer March 23, 2024 (12:51 am)

          K, Alki is FAR more than a beach. It’s a community. It’s Jack Block Park, sweeping views of Elliott Bay on sunset drives, restaurants, Seacrest Park, shops, thousands of residents (most own cars), Don Armeni Park with boats on trailers, a lighthouse, Whale Tail Park, Salty’s, etc. Plus, Harbor Ave and Beach Drive are major thoroughfares for tens of thousands of peninsula residents.

          • K March 23, 2024 (7:50 am)

            Again, how does a feature you only notice while in a car in transit ruin the community, parks, your views, sunset, restaurants, shops, or living there (presumably outside of a moving vehicle)?  Are traffic circles ruining the Eiffel Tower?  I just can’t even fathom a traffic control device “ruining” something that is otherwise fun, engaging, or beautiful and most importantly, DOES NOT require you to be in traffic to enjoy.

          • HalfCarHalfHuman March 25, 2024 (9:27 am)

            @K isn’t is obvious from some of the silly comment you see in threads like this? we have a couple of frequent commenters that consistently whinge over the thought of having their ability to pull up to Alki in their car, sit there, then leave limited. car folks feel entitled to be able to experience a community solely through their windshield rather than have the physically interact with it. they will traverse other communities at great speed and without care to arrive at a destination with their hermetically sealed living room in hand. b/c of this, anything that even remotely impacts the driving experience ruins their entire experience, and b/c i have yet to see much empathy for other peoples’ experiences outside cars from car drivers they only really have the capacity to care for their own experiences and no one else’s.

  • Admiral-2009 March 22, 2024 (5:19 pm)

    Paid parking makes sense, include Lincoln Park also.  

  • Pete March 22, 2024 (5:32 pm)

    There was an ugly crash by Luna park cafe right at the bottom of admiral as I drove home just now. 

    • WSB March 22, 2024 (5:37 pm)

      Heard the dispatch, though absent anyone texting, couldn’t quite tell where it was (speaking of cameras, the traffic system is woefully short on the non-enforcement kind), but the response was downsized so apparently no major injuries.

      • Jkj March 22, 2024 (6:46 pm)

        It was at Admiral and Manning. Some people are nuts on that left turn at the stop sign.I’ve narrowly avoided disaster several times by slamming on the brakes and coming to a full stop coming down the hill. Almost got rear-ended once. I don’t get it. You can see traffic coming down all the way up Admiral, but some people wait until the last minute to gun it like you aren’t even there. That’s the most dangerous intersection, as far as I’m concerned. It’s like Russian roulette.

        • G March 23, 2024 (11:59 am)

          Totally agree. People are nuts turning left there. It makes no sense. I passed by that accident yesterday, myself. 

  • Don March 22, 2024 (9:18 pm)

    If traffic issues are the main topic then that is a good sign for the neighborhood.  If it’s crime, garbage, zoning, etc, then it’s harder to solve and more endemic.    

  • T. Anderson March 22, 2024 (10:14 pm)

    We can’t do everything so let’s not try to do anything? Surely “a gem” like Alki and Harbor Ave can be made safer through a combination of tactics and changes and still be welcoming to all law-abiding visitors and residents.

  • Marcus March 23, 2024 (6:01 am)

    Yak,yak,yak.  Put a few sneaker police units between midnight and dawn.  Arrest the speed racers and impound the cars.  Do this like speed traps basically we do not know when this is going to occur.  Rinse and repeat.  The problem will be solved as the speed racers will go else where.  I support Saka because he has a common sense approach.  Enforcement and penalty will work. The guy that flipped his car into the water will not be racing his car anymore, guess why???  It will be because he does not have a car anymore.  Get the picture!

  • Alki Jack March 23, 2024 (7:40 am)

    Marcus is so correct. Just put an emphasis patrol (speed trap) every so often. Pull over speeders and loud vehicles and write a lot of tickets. Does anyone remember when they had them on Admiral Way. You never knew when they might be there, at the top or bottom of the hill. Usually a motorcycle cop hidden between two parked cars. Everyone slowed down for fear of getting a ticket. They weren’t there all the time…you just never knew when.

    • wetone March 23, 2024 (10:28 am)

      AJ you’re 100% correct just as they had speed patrols on Alki, 35th, Admiral way coming into WS to Alki as you mentioned. Remember those days starting in the 1970’s thru early 2000’s. Then it seemed to stop because political reasons. It’s funny the only enforcement we see today is the parking enforcement. SDOT and the city can install all the speed bumps, bollards, curbs and signs they want, but that will not change a thing with the drivers causing  issues today. It will impact all service workers and residents that are law abiding though. Since city has started implementing healthy streets,  street re-design and so called improvements such as Alki, incidents have increased. Easily proven by cities own statistics and those that have lived in impacted areas a very long time. The healthy streets project at Alki point will do nothing at improving issues of area and that’s simple common sense…. Mainly due to no enforcement of laws and regulations. I personally see it impacting area residents as car traffic will focus and park/party along neighboring streets. SDOT is very broken, I was hopeful newest director Greg Spotts would be on improvement….. but I hold mayor and city council to blame for current decline……..

      • Brandon March 23, 2024 (11:59 am)

        Call it what it is. The mayor and city council were elected. That blame is on the constituents and their lack of common sense. Seattle voted for this. The officials shouldn’t be the scapegoat for its failed ideology, rather a representation of such.

    • Dog Whisperer March 23, 2024 (10:11 pm)

      There aren’t enough cops! We’re short 740.

  • G March 23, 2024 (12:03 pm)

    Agree that the intersection of 63rd/Beach Drive and Admiral needs some sort of flashing light. I’ve almost been hit walking in the intersection by a car that refused to stop at the sign—and granted I was already in the intersection way before they even pulled up to it. Almost daily I see people refuse to stop in that intersection just out of sheer laziness, and entitlement. What’s more is that kids cross that street every day getting to their school bus. They need a safer intersection. 

  • WSEnvironmentalist March 23, 2024 (1:56 pm)

    Road design:  Add a couple of “round abouts” or “rotaries” which work really well.  WS has them in the neighborhoods to the West of The Junction and Admiral District.  On Harbor Ave SW we are thankful for the “no over-night” parking signs – very thankful! – no more drug dealers and theft rings – but now speeders use Harbor Ave SW as a 4 lane raceway by passing on the right using the parking lane.  There is also the sound issue.  I believe SEA has a sound ordinance and it is not being enforced.  Alki is supposed to be for everybody not just Fast and Furious wannabes.  

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