Honestly how much bloat do we have that we can afford to pay consultants to run public meetings to hide public employees. I seriously hope your new city council audits Parks and other mismanaged departments.

I’m with you on this. There is sooooo much empty, unused, and abandoned space at LP that doesn’t exactly add to the nature aspect. You could put in both a pickleball court AND a dog park and still have just as much nature trail area and free use areas. Truly the only challenging change would be parking. I’ve never seen a proposed change of any kind in West Seattle that was welcomed and it’s exhausting. 

 Nope, Camp Long has quite a few off leash dogs…..probably as many as Lincoln Park. 

Careful on the sandy beach at Alki. Have seen more than a few kick sand over the poop and walk on. Leaving a surprise for someone to step on.

The park will be used “mainly for dogs and pickleball”? What?! The proposed dog park is 26,000 square feet, the Super-Mega-Ultra-PicklePlex is roughly 7,000 square feet of existing concrete. Together, this accounts for 0.5 percent of the park’s 135.4 acres. “Mainly for dogs and pickleball?” Mainly? MAINLY? Why would people use such specatcularly false language?! Why lie?! Why is there this propensity in these kinds of arguments to just say things that are so demonstrably untrue, so easily disproven on their face?!

Per Rachel Maddow’s book “Prequel to Facism,” ironically, it was WWII that conveniently rescued America from a double-dip Depression – the second dip we were sinking into prior to entering the war.   Not only was the rest of the world forced to buy everything from America following WWII, the center of finance moved from London to NY, and we stationed ourselves permanently in Europe.  Kinda of fits the description of ultranationalism, doesn’t it? Also makes you wonder who’s writing the history books, doesn’t it? 

If we’re thinking of the same stretch (down, over the small creek, then back up), this is not an especially “accessible” route even if the stairs were shored up with full dirt. But it doesn’t matter because it’s over of many routes one can take in that area of the park. Your implications that SPR is negligent by not making every path through the park fully accessible per ADA requirements are disingenuous. If you’re against pickleball in Lincoln Park for environmental reasons but advocate for full ADA accessibility, well, there would be a whole lot more paving needed for the latter. That said, the park is actually relatively accessible thanks to regular grooming of the pathways. They’re swept, blown, etc. to keep them clear of debris.

This! Parks needs to get with the new city council and alter their code to allow some pop-up dog parks at new parks or unused spaces, such as the one on 40th. Seemingly with one or two sections of fence and a temp gate that park, which has no amenities, could be converted into a safe pop-up off leash dog park rather than an unsafe de facto off leash park, which is the current use. Turn the stadium spot into a pop up dog park, see how it plays out. Right now, to the dismay of most, every park, open space, beach, and ball field in west Seattle is a de facto off leash park because of incautious dog owners with not enough off leash options. Here is what pop up dog parks look like in Redmond, Kirkland and Bellevue. Our city should hop on that trend yesterday.

Denise, *you know*, you and Kersti. You Are The Champions. I now know beyond any reasonable doubt that this is Harrell and Diaz at his direction serving the exclusive interests of beautifully-blessed and -connected homeowners around Solstice. In my studied lay opinion Harrell’s and Parks’ targeted largesse violates both SMC and the legal burden it places on the “decisionmaker” of the p**b* proposal, whoever they may be, and the regulatory guidance of SDCI as to legal exemption from SEPA under SMC, RCW and WAC. You write here as tho it’s done, and again, I blv u know. If it’s done it’s done. If there’s any front left to fight on, I’m asking: pls tell me where to go. (And thank you, you lion hearts.)

Everyone will still have “exactly the same access to use it”, except maybe you? Will you be losing access to LP because there is an off leash dog area and pickleball courts?  “Now it will be mainly for dogs and pickleball”. That is laughable; LP is huge, there are already lots of dogs, and god forbid–a swimming pool, elementary school field trips, swim team meets, swim lessons, public swim, YMCA day camps during the summer, fishing, the list goes on. It would be ONE area for an off leash dog area and ONE area for pickleball. I’m not a pickleball player, but it would not ruin LP for me in the least. If the noise offended me that much, I would just choose a different route.  Doesn’t mean I think there should be no playground and no wading pool, even if there are many loud children and my children have outgrown those areas.  You sound angry and your complaint is hollow. Camp long has no off leash area, no pickleball courts, and is almost always very quiet. There are lots of lovely green areas in WS for you to choose from if pickleball and an off leash area are that offensive. I get peoples concerns about environmental impact; yours, not so much. Like Shannon, I prefer the quiet as well, but I’m more than willing to share public spaces.

No just explaining (I mean I was asking last *nite*, edge of my seat, thinkin any minit, yeah, but din’t know) my immediately coming agin out of retirement but now to use your still invaluable soapbox to emphasize the only thing left to say, the linchpin (and *still* failed to emphasize): ☆☆“They discussed how LP is ideal because it’s away from homes so less noise impact for homeowners.”☆☆ This is all that matters.

@Why are they set on ruining Lincoln Park?  I apologize, didn’t realize you were the person defining what ‘ruins’ or ‘enhances’ a park. I will try and follow you virtue signaling lead and decry any change while I wait years before embarking on anything.

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