ALKI POINT HEALTHY STREET: See ‘early design’ shown by SDOT at open house

(WSB photos)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Sizable turnout tonight at Alki Bathhouse for SDOT‘s open house to show its “early design” for turning the west ends of Beach Drive and Alki Avenue into a permanent “Healthy Street and Neighborhood Greenway. The stretch around Alki Point has had “Stay Healthy Street”/”Keep Moving Street” status since early in the pandemic, declaring the street closed to vehicle through-traffic, but aside from the “Street Closed” signs at either end, it’s been largely unchanged. Now that the city has decided to permanently change the street, the question is how. What they showed at tonight’s open house included added traffic-calming features to narrow the street, such as paint-and-post curb bulbs and a traffic circle. One display tonight showed this array of possibilities:

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The other three showed these actual early-design concepts (in the first one, the “cul-de-sac” effect would involve moving the Alki Avenue street-closed sign a bit further west, to where the bike lane ends now, and narrowing the road entrance to one lane):

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On the displays as well as on a long paper rendering of the street, attendees were invited to leave post-it-note comments:

Some of the suggestions we read included “more speed bumps” and residential parking permits.

Sheets of paper for longer comments were available too, and periodic reminders to fill them out were shouted over the din. We listened in on some of the conversations; many attendees identified themselves as residents in the Healthy Street area. One attendee talking with SDOT’s Healthy Streets program manager Summer Jawson expressed concern about equitable access to the area; Jawson stressed that they planned to include additional accessible parking spaces, and that none of the current parking would be removed.

ADDED THURSDAY AFTERNOON: SDOT spokesperson Ethan Bergerson sent us a clarification on Jawson’s parking comment, saying she was speaking “in reference to specific areas near intersections where we planned to install painted curb extensions … clarifying that this would not remove legal parking spaces because it is already illegal to park within 30 feet of these intersections (or in the intersection itself). We do anticipate removing parking in a few specific locations to make room for drivers to turn around at the cul-de-sac and to support some of the traffic calming and public space enhancements along the waterfront. One of our next steps on the project will be to complete a parking analysis to map out specific parking changes.”

WHAT’S NEXT? An online open house is planned at noon next Tuesday (November 15); the link is supposed to be posted any day now on the project website. Now that the “early design” has gone public, you also are invited to send comments to by December 9.

78 Replies to "ALKI POINT HEALTHY STREET: See 'early design' shown by SDOT at open house"

  • Mj November 9, 2022 (10:14 pm)

    What SDoT is doing is converting a public street into a multi use local access street.  Calling the street a Healthy street is a terrible nomenclature!   

    • Scott Batson November 10, 2022 (9:57 am)

      You imply it will no longer be a public space.  I believe your statement is false.

      • Jay November 10, 2022 (1:36 pm)

        Local access just means no through traffic, it’s still public. You can go there as a destination.

    • Jort November 10, 2022 (2:09 pm)

      Yeah, pedantry/semantics are super important, that’s really the whole point of all of this. Hey, speaking of, have you seen any “perps” lately? Book ’em, Dano! It’s a “perp!”

  • Rhonda November 9, 2022 (10:31 pm)

    “Jawson stressed that they planned to include additional accessible parking spaces, and that none of the current parking would be removed.”This is already a disingenuous statement as the planned curb bulbs reduce currently-available curb parking.

    • CAM November 11, 2022 (10:04 am)

      As a person identifying as a LE professional in other posts, I’m sure you’re aware that it is not legal to park so close to an intersection or crosswalk that the addition of a curb bulb would impact the availability of parking. 

      • Rhonda November 11, 2022 (2:02 pm)

        As can be seen in the sample PDFs of proposals, some of the painted curb bulbs are nowhere near intersections. If the current state of lack of any enforcement continues after project completion, many scofflaws will park on the painted bulb lines, anyway. The bottom line is there will be fewer legal  parking options as there are now.

  • Lori November 10, 2022 (12:26 am)

    This project limits access for all the rest of us who don’t live across from this public beach.  Only “local access” car traffic will be allowed which equals homeowners who live on the street.  Those with limited mobility or who live farther away must drive and park in other neighborhoods to enjoy this public beach.   If the project is meant to provide MORE access for everyone,  removing parking and car traffic only serves those who can walk / bike  there or who live there.  Equity to enjoy our finite public beaches should be the highest priority.   If this project is a solution to speeding or other traffic issues, solve those issues by enforcement rather than restricting cars and parking so everyone can enjoy this area. 

    • Sandy November 10, 2022 (5:57 am)

      Agreed. I’m afraid local residents in favor of this are simply attempting to take advantage of a temporary pandemic-related measure in order to create their own publicly funded version of Broadmoor. Boo.

    • WSEA November 10, 2022 (6:50 am)

      The graph shows ADA parking so I dont think the mobility concern is an issue.  There is also parking on side streets.   Personally, I like the idea and see a lot of users access this area for running, biking and walking.  On a side note, I travel to a lot of cities in the US and see an uptick in this type of design to bring people together and away of car traffic.  Maybe someday they can hold street parties in this location. 

      • Mark47n November 10, 2022 (9:31 am)

        This has been posted as a “Healthy Street” for years and I don’t see many using the street for more than driving. Cyclists use it the same as they do any street. Runners treat it the same as any other street. Children are NOT playing it it. So, what’s the point in this? Other than to secure semi private parking to the residents?    

        • Alkilocal November 10, 2022 (11:50 am)

          Mark47n We live a few blocks away. We have three young kids who we walk down to learn to bike ride and scoot. We used it daily. However, those who believe this street is open to cars drive really fast and do not yield. It’s scary and I don’t choose to use that “healthy street” with my kids.   if there is a way to remove the non local speeding and aggressive drivers who use the road just because – I will bring my kids down again. Others will too and you will see kids playing there.  I hope this works!  I can’t wait to have a street in our neighborhood that we share with so so many others that’s not filled with racing and loud cars. 

      • Lori November 10, 2022 (10:02 am)

        There are 6 ADA parking spots total.  All else is local access.

    • Rick November 10, 2022 (12:09 pm)

      Just bring yo money!

    • Jay November 10, 2022 (1:38 pm)

      That’s not what local access means! It’s still public. Local access means closed to through traffic, but you can still drive there as a destination.

    • Don Brubeck November 10, 2022 (4:06 pm)

      Lori, it does not decrease access. It increases access for people arriving on foot, bike, skates, scooters, and makes it safer.  You will still be able to get there by car, too, just like today.

    • Neighbor November 17, 2022 (5:49 pm)

      You have willfully misunderstood the rules of this street for years now Lori.  It doesn’t limit access to only residents.  You must know that by now, and if you don’t it’s because you choose not to.

  • Pam November 10, 2022 (3:45 am)

    If this is becoming a free park for residents who live on this street, they should be footing the bill for it.  And they should not be able to have their vehicles parked there  if no one  else can park there.  

    • CAM November 11, 2022 (10:09 am)

      Anyone who is going there to use the space can park there. It is not only for people who live close by. Someone from Renton could drive over, park in one of the available spots, and bike or run on the street. You’re making things up. 

  • Mark47n November 10, 2022 (6:50 am)

    So…the public street with public parking to access the public park is going to be closed (effectively) to ensure that…what,  the people across the street can have a practically private park? This is ridiculous and the only real beneficiaries of the public largesse is the residents of that road. For those that prate about parking on streets being subsidized parking for residents all I can is that blows my subsidized parking out of the water. free parking on a “closed” public street? That’s the height of a giveaway.

  • Joe Z November 10, 2022 (7:18 am)

    I hope this becomes a model that can be implemented on hundreds of other residential blocks. 

  • Marcus November 10, 2022 (7:26 am)

    I support the healthy street and I do not live on Alki or on the flats.  I have been there in the middle of the night with all the racers and loud activities and that was many, many years ago.  I like knowing that there are places where cars are not allowed and that the walkers and bikes (battery assisted or not) can go and excape the automania and have a peaceful experience.  As for the property owners, well they have paided taxes like you cannot believe just for being in that area.  Now I bet they will pay even more due to the improvements of their property surroundings.  Also I remember that the treatment plant for years stunk and with the night noise of the past I have always felt bad for these property owners.  However, I do get to walk the entire point with very little traffic, walk in the middle of the street and enjoy a part of Seattle that is both historic and calm.  There are certain advantages living in Seattle and some are blessed with spectacular views and other ammenities.  People live across from parks and greenspaces, it is just the Seattle way.  I invite all to start walking the point and just enjoy the area for which we all are blessed to live in. Go Healthy Street!!!!

    • Rhonda November 10, 2022 (11:54 am)

      Read the material. Nowhere does it say cars are not allowed. The area will still have cars full of the same pot-smoking, beer-drinking young car enthusiasts on warm nights as we’ve always seen.

  • Emm November 10, 2022 (7:48 am)

          The other end of Alki should be designated an unhealthy street.There is noise pollution and downright danger to pedestrians,drivers and families.

  • D-Ridge November 10, 2022 (7:53 am)

    It truly is wild to see such intense resistance to removing cars along one tiny section of West Seattle; the rest of Alki is awash in cars, can’t we get one spot that feels like you might not be run over?

    • Car-free resident November 10, 2022 (8:03 am)

      I agree – I hope our neighbors understand that there are plenty of people who benefit greatly from projects like this – like me! For how overwhelmingly car-centric transportation planning is, you would think that there wouldn’t be so much vitriol for minor and completely sensible improvements like this. This isn’t a zero-sum game, people! We all benefit from safe, healthy streets.

      • Gay November 10, 2022 (11:42 am)

        No we don’t.

      • AHLIFER52 November 11, 2022 (3:34 pm)

        CFR “people who benefit greatly from projects like this – like me!” Hmmm.  Anyway… today, Friday 11/11/22 Veterans Day 2:00 pm for almost an hour @ Constellation park (ate lunch) 10 walkers 1 jogger & 2 bicyclists, on a blustery day. No one playing in the street, 1 person did however cross the street, ahhh. Explain to me again how on a day like today I should be restricted from being able to drive around the point to Alki??  I do the appropriate 5-10 mph & stop for anyone crossing. This is only an issue 4 months a year. I have Lived in West Seattle for 52 years & go to Alki a lot, during “off peak” months & I’ve never seen any issues, so to restrict it year round seems absurd to me. 

        • Alki resident November 15, 2022 (12:44 pm)

          AHlifer- I’m the same age and been here all of my life. I could’ve written everything you just said because you NAILED it. This is so ridiculous 

    • Jort November 10, 2022 (8:53 am)

      They’re also not removing cars. It’s entirely a virtue-signaling feel-good project to assuage SDOT’s guilt at perpetuating a deadly, unsustainable transportation system overwhelmingly focused on cars. There are no significant rule changes nor any enforcement. People on this very website have frequently and very proudly declared their intention to brazenly ignore the signs, like a toddler announcing to the entire house their intentions to use the potty. This “healthy street” is a half-baked, half-measure meant to make it look like SDOT’s taking action to make streets safer, while at the same time dumping millions and millions of dollars every year into perpetuating car culture.  It’s also intentionally designed to be an “anger sink” for those wanting to vent their frustrations about the universally awful experience of driving. Since SDOT can’t make driving “better” for people (since the laws of geometry are not changeable by SDOT), they try to focus drivers’ resentment and anger into these dumb, meaningless projects, like this.

      • Dave November 10, 2022 (9:30 am)

        No reason to harsh on toddlers, Jort.

      • Gay November 10, 2022 (11:41 am)

        Right on, Jort.  And can I just ask if these people are happy with all of this attention?   It’s kinda creepy.

      • Rhonda November 10, 2022 (2:39 pm)

        They’re not removing cars because they CAN’T as long as there are residents who live along it and it’s a public street. It’s the same reason my street is open on each end for through traffic.

        • Jort November 10, 2022 (5:56 pm)

          Just an FYI the city can and will close public streets if it wants to, and there is nothing you can do about it except elect new leaders. There is no constitutional right to car usage on streets. 

          • Rhonda November 11, 2022 (3:24 pm)

            Name a public street in Seattle with single-family residences and beach access that’s closed to cars (there aren’t any, but you might enjoy researching it).

      • my two cents November 10, 2022 (9:06 pm)

        jort!  “… assuage SDOT’s guilt…”.   And here we thought SDOT was soulless from your previous comments! Come on, admit it – you just wanna give SDOT a big hug.

    • Gay November 10, 2022 (11:43 am)

      Pretend it’s a city.   It’s where you live, baby.

    • anonyme November 10, 2022 (12:50 pm)

      I don’t think the resistance is due to “removing cars along one tiny section” but rather the location of the section in question – a block of very posh homes with values that will only increase with having their block turned into a gated community at taxpayers’ expense.  I also have a beef with street “art” – literally, as in painted on the street.  I am an artist and very supportive of public art, but spending huge amounts of money to paint even more distracting symbols on the street is not only a huge waste of money, but a slap in the face to taxpayers given the decayed condition of our streets.  Or is this part of SDOT’s plan – don’t fix it, just paint over it?

      • D-Ridge November 10, 2022 (1:22 pm)

        We’ll let’s continue to do this to more streets in addition to this one then.Also sure the homes are “posh”, but wouldn’t you rather a have public space with a view of the Olympics than the alternative? It democratizes the space even further.

  • SlimJim November 10, 2022 (8:41 am)

    Can we get our street made private too? Would be great to block off the ends of my block and put “Local Access Only” signs up so we can then allow only residents of my block with parking stickers to park on “my” block. We can call it anti-car, healthy or equitable. Any euphemism that gets it done is fine with me!

    • Jason November 10, 2022 (9:08 am)

      Wow, this is a great idea, more residential streets *should* be dead ended to cars.  It’s actually a big part of how cities across the world are meeting their climate goals and creating pleasant spaces for people in every neighborhood, rather than limiting access to car free or car lite spaces to only those with a downpayment for a house in Broadmore.

  • Maggie November 10, 2022 (9:09 am)

    I guess those of us without the million dollar views get to live on the sick streets and park in other neighborhoods when we want to visit the shoreline. Maybe these neighbors should also make it a requirement that the commoners only visit on certain days when they can close their shades and don’t have to interact with the riff-raff. Just goes to show what you can buy when you have the money. 

  • Wseattleite November 10, 2022 (9:15 am)

    Ha Ha Ha!  And somehow they need more money.  Misplaced priorities.  

  • bill November 10, 2022 (11:28 am)

    Motor Vehicle Derangement Syndrome on full display here. Explains a lot about how people drive.

  • Gay November 10, 2022 (11:38 am)

    It’s a road, not an amusement park.  Open it.

  • marcus November 10, 2022 (12:10 pm)

    This street is not private as so many have misunderstood.  Anyone can walk, bike, take a stroller for the toddlers, walk their dogs, you have children peddal their tricycles.  Anyone can walk this stretch day or night 24/7, even on national holidays.  this street is not private-you just cannot drive your car or motorcycle.  And if people are so upset by the elite of Seattle, those who have a better house or a better view or a nicer car-well that is just life.  get use to it, enjoy the benifits or move to a place that is economically depressed with crappy services, bad water with no mountain or sound views or a city park system.  Besides this Healthy Street is now a designated promenade which means more people will be walking by all those elite homeowners, looking into their homes and watching them in their front yards when they wash their cars or do yard work.  I would not want all those people around my home!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • flimflam November 10, 2022 (12:37 pm)

      It’s a public street and unless someone will be guarding the perimeter and checking IDs for resident status, anyone can drive there.

  • Jort November 10, 2022 (12:23 pm)

    I continue to believe that the unbelievably outsized histrionic overreaction to this truly minor and insignificant bureaucratic change reveals that car drivers are really just reflexively and instinctively opposed to literally even the slightest change — even in perception only! — to their monocultural and all-encompassing dominance in American society. These minor changes, at best, minimally discourage certain speeding behaviors, yet car drivers are framing this as a class struggle! (!!!!!) I mean, my god, it’s a change in some signage and a few curb bulbs. People are reacting like Jort has become a fascist dictator-for-life, confiscated all their cars and shoved them into the car grinder! We could armchair-psychology this forever, but I think people should seriously examine their grandiose, melodramatic overreactions to these minor changes and ask themselves why they’re reacting in such a way.  You still get to drive and park here! People around the city have been literally dismantling and throwing the Healthy Streets signs off the road! They’re meaningless! Why do you care so much?! Does the road sign really hurt your feelings that much?! 

    • Mark47n November 10, 2022 (1:08 pm)

      You’re smarter than that, Jort and this post is beneath you. This initiative takes a local road and administratively modifies its purpose. This small stretch of road will still allow the homeowners to drive on it but will limit access to others looking for a place to park to make use of the beach access. For myself, I’ve used that stretch to put kayaks in the water and I’ve watched other users put paddle boards in and I’ve seen kite surfers launch from there (but Alki is better for that). You have a knee jerk response to any post about cars and you’ve made it crystal clear that you have an axe to grind. Alas, you are the one displaying melodramatics to those who are concerned about equity, in terms of access, and how, again, Seattle appears to favoring the wealthy. I don’t see the city making noise about making other “healthy Streets” permanent. Only this one in front of waterfront homes. As noted above, this is classic Seattle virtue signaling. It’s pretty stupid and poorly considered. Why would I expect anything different?

      • Foop November 10, 2022 (1:19 pm)

        Please explain to the class how this *actionably* limits your use of the street. You do realize they aren’t reducing parking so you can, infact, drive to the street with your kayak and go kayaking.

        • WestSeattleBadTakes November 10, 2022 (2:07 pm)

          Reactionaries always need a few lies to string together their “thoughts.” Let’s see if they explain this one.

        • New Salt November 10, 2022 (2:07 pm)

          I think when you’ve got residents talking about parking permits during open house discussions, the concern is plenty warranted. This whole initiative is obviously pork barrel for someone well-connected in that area, or just general squeaky-wheel prioritization. If SDOT wants a list of areas to target for improvement, there’s no honest person that would look at the whole city and put this anywhere near the top.

      • Jort November 10, 2022 (1:40 pm)

        Mark47n, please. I’m sure you can understand that I’ve spent many, many years thoughtfully considering the deeply-rooted psychological connections people have in their relationships with automobiles. For example, when this very blog post clearly says, “Jawson stressed that they planned to include additional accessible parking spaces, and that none of the current parking would be removed,” and somebody interprets that to mean that to mean, “This small stretch of road will still allow the homeowners to drive on it but will limit access to others looking for a place to park to make use of the beach access,” that would indicate a factually-incorrect, emotionally-centered reaction to reinterpret reality. As to why people are so willing to invent a completely new reality that does not match up with the clearly available facts, that is where we get into the psychology of it all. I’m glad you agree with me that this is mere virtue-signaling. And that, of course, means that this project is no meaningful way, whatsoever, a “limitation” on existing car access to the street. You can still park and put in your kayak, Mark. Nobody is stopping you. Parking is still there. Access is still there. Nothing meaningful is changing.  Why do people feel the need to conjure up an oppressive reality that has no basis, in any way, in what’s actually happening? It’s certainly worth some introspection among those who find this banal and pointless project so fundamentally unsettling.  What does it say about each person’s own personal, emotional attachments to automobiles?

      • Jay November 10, 2022 (1:41 pm)

         Mark47n is misrepresenting the issue. Local access does NOT mean that only locals are allowed. It means that it’s closed to through traffic, but the general public can drive to the park as a destination.

    • AHLIFER52 November 10, 2022 (7:00 pm)

      All of this wrangling about pretty much 4 months of the year. I go midweek midday take a lunch during “off peak” months. To restrict my usage to park @ constellation park, eat my lunch then wrap around the point back over to Alki is ridiculous. I go the appropriate 5-10 mph to respect everyone . As for the people who say they’ll walk/bike/jog more during midweek midday when it’s pouring down rain… Yea I lived here for all my life (52 years) & have NEVER seen that usage during those times. I don’t go down there in the summer anyway, so do what you do for those 4 months but to restrict it when NO ONE is out there is beyond ridiculous. I live on a side street in Arbor Heights on a 2 block T street, people scream past my house daily only to go to then end of the block to go left or right. I’ve complained to SDOT for about 20 years, response .. I can pay for speed bumps or an intersection round about. Yea seems fair!!!   

      • Scarlett November 11, 2022 (8:48 am)

        You’re interjecting commonsense in this discussion – careful, the ideologues who always think others are the reactionaries will have their pitchforks out for you.  It’s a bit like those sketches of the ‘promenade’ on the Seattle waterfront, post viaduct.  It’s always a sort of perpetual summer with hordes of people strolling and lounging in the sunshine –   never a  November day with cold unobstructed wind and rain hitting you sideways.   

  • Mj November 10, 2022 (1:40 pm)

    Marcus – Foop is correct you can drive on the street to get to street parking, the intent is to restrict through traffic.  

    My gripe is with the terminology the City uses, Healthy Street?  This term is bad nomenclature and needs to be replaced.

  • Quiz November 10, 2022 (1:44 pm)

    This is so unbelievable. A group of wealthy folks decide they’d prefer to not have through traffic on their street and they get exactly what they want. Seems like something from the Simpsons. 

  • 💡 November 10, 2022 (3:13 pm)

    Fact check: SDOT made the decision to erect the street closed signs and limit through traffic. Residents were not informed or involved in advance of this decision that was made solely by SDOT. Know who is responsible when you post.

    • WSB November 10, 2022 (4:28 pm)

      One note on that: Long before the pandemic, residents of this street had complained about stunt driving, racing, groups of drivers congregating, etc. – that’s why speed humps were installed in 2016, with advocacy from Councilmember Lisa Herbold. Police noted in May 2020 that the SHS designation was inspired by those community concerns. So it could be argued that – like the protected bike lane that sprung up on Andover after the RVs were swept – the street changes solved an additional problem. – TR

      • Lori November 10, 2022 (11:35 pm)

        Stunt driving, racing, and drivers congregating is an enforcement problem not a road design problem.  Address  such concerns with enforcement and not a publicly-funded  road makeover.  Those who purchased homes in front of a public beach and road have to expect the public to show up.  

        • AHLIFER52 November 11, 2022 (11:45 am)

          Exactly!!! I’ve always said… if you don’t want to hear the planes  don’t live by the airport!!  Seems reasonable to me.  Oops there I go again with reasoning. 

  • Readbeforeposting November 10, 2022 (3:34 pm)

    I wonder what these people would be posting if WSB titled this “

    ALKI POINT HEALTHY STREET: See ‘early design’ that allows access to all vehicles, including parking, beach access and disabled parking. 

  • JP November 10, 2022 (4:11 pm)

    COVID was first leveraged as a Trojan Horse to introduce these “stay healthy” streets and the public initially embraced the concept…. I guess because to many it felt like we were doing something  to improve daily life in the throes of the pandemic. At the time, I predicted that the concept would become permanent to some degree regardless of the outcome of the pandemic as a small but vociferous group of folks were opportunistic in using COVID to push forward an initiative they were keen to implement irrespective of (and even before) the pandemic.  Seemed like a “slippery slope” fallacy at the time, but here we are. I find the misdirection behind how this initiative was rolled out distasteful and as I said at the time, it turns a publicly funded road into a de facto private road for the residents of the block, even if many non-residents continue to use the road as a through-street, which is their right. I would prefer that  these resources and energy be directed towards adding sidewalks to the many streets in Seattle that currently lack them.

    • WestSeattleBadTakes November 10, 2022 (4:33 pm)

      I would prefer that  these resources and energy be directed towards adding sidewalks to the many streets in Seattle that currently lack them.

      We can do both.

      I’ll also point out you didn’t say why this is bad, but I guess the narrative is more important than reasoning.

      • JP November 10, 2022 (9:57 pm)

        I’ll attempt to be more explicit here so others don’t get lost in “the narrative”, whatever that means. 1) There is an opportunity cost to the time and resources devoted to this project. It’s unnecessary and accomplishes little – there is already a sidewalk on this stretch of road in addition to public beach access, not to mention miles of pedestrian walks and bicycle paths along Alki beach just a few hundred yards away. There are streets entirely without sidewalks in Seattle that present a more critical health issue that should be prioritized over street paintings etc. on this small stretch of Beach Drive.  Despite your comfort statement that “we can do both”, more substantive public needs are being ignored while this one receives mobilization. I have a few thoughts as to why, but don’t want to bore you with my “narrative”. 2) As I’ve already stated, this is an attempt to restrict traffic on a publicly funded street to local residents. I happen to think this is undesirable and sets a poor precedent, you apparently do not. I don’t see the utility in a semi-public strip of asphalt. Either replace the asphalt with greenbelt and make it a pedestrian-only space, or keep the intended function as a public road without the wasteful and passive-aggressive measures to deter through traffic.
        3) I take umbrage with the pretense under which the initiative was pushed out.  It is evident that the “stay healthy” streets had little to nothing to do with keeping people safe from COVID yet some here seem unbothered that the sole impetus and justification for the project was a red herring. I guess to some, the end justifies the means. In my view, the public manipulation and disingenuous justification for the project is a negative thing.

        • WestSeattleBadTakes November 11, 2022 (8:15 am)

          You’ve still said nothing other than your personal distaste for it.

          • JP November 11, 2022 (2:04 pm)

            Erudite critique.  Perhaps you have something of substance to contribute other than one-liners?

          • nonni November 11, 2022 (3:23 pm)

            I’ll back JP up. I think it’s stupid to teach young children to play in the street, when there are perfectly good sidewalks, and to assume that local drivers conduct their vehicles more cautiously than anyone else. What happens when they ride their bikes around the corner to the next, Unhealthy, Unsafe, Un speed-bumped street? SDOT chose our Highland Park neighborhood for the Greenway, which is reasonable, as a designated commuter route for cyclists with “calming” measures for motorists. But the signs, the signs, the overkill of ugly signs, bollards and barricades every 3 car lengths, which are regularly ignored, run-over or thrown on their sides, because the bottlenecks they, along with the curb bulbs, create make it nearly impossible for the schoolbuses and delivery and construction and garbage trucks and the fire engines to get through. Play in your backyard, or in the park. Paint on a canvas, a board, a sheet of paper. Learn to ride your bike in the school parking lot, like we did. This is not a park, a carnival or a billboard. Just a residential street, or so I believed when I bought here.

  • WSB November 10, 2022 (4:44 pm)

    For those concerned about vehicle parking, note the clarifying paragraph – right above the story-ending “What’s Next” paragraph – I’ve just added.

  • Formerresident November 10, 2022 (7:02 pm)

    Rich people don’t need more parks or open space access. What about South Delridge?

    • John November 11, 2022 (8:47 am)

      South Delridge has Longfellow Creek and it extensive green space as well as well as the Southwest  Athletic  complex and a swimming pool, Walt Hundley Park and  its  own skate park at Roxhill Park.  
      Those are more facilities that of Alki.

  • Scarlett November 10, 2022 (8:07 pm)

    The affluent with ample free time  poring studiously over proposals for access to a few blocks of beach – how vexing! – while  thousands of families are concerned about how they are going to put food on the table.   What a sick country.  

  • Pam November 11, 2022 (7:52 am)

    I wish it would be made into a ‘one way’ street for traffic. Cars would turn left on 63rd, go down the two long blocks to Beach Drive , and then enter the ‘Healthy Street’ from there.

  • NatalieinWS November 11, 2022 (8:43 am)

    Sounds like a great deal for those living down there…Guaranteed parking, less noise pollution, higher home values as they essentially will be living in a park that the rest of us pay for, but can only access on their terms (bikes, walking, etc.).  For those claiming this won’t limit parking, yes it will, and if not then this seems like a complete waste of money just to “discourage” drivers who don’t live in this area. This plan benefits those fortunate enough to live here while discouraging others from being able to”conveniently” access the rocky beach! A public space. There are other, more pressing issues facing the WS neighborhood than closing streets, especially this one! 

    • Readbeforeposting November 12, 2022 (10:33 am)

      If NatalieinWS had read what the proposal is, they would not be writing such nonsense.  
      Obviously NatalieinWS is not familiar with the area, to be making such outlandish statements.  
      Parking along either side of Beach Drive has never been an issue.
      It is false for NartalieinWS to claim that access will be limited to “(bikes, walking, etc.)”.  
      That is not true.
      I wonder what prompts people to write such falsehoods?

      The other points are simply red herring arguments: the home values will skyrocket (no proof through past history) and less pollution and noise.  
      From my experience the noise and aggressive driver types have actually increased during the shutdown due to loud vehicle enthusiasts have discovered this secluded spot outside the traditional  Alki ‘cruising zone.’

      And, no, I do not live in Alki.

  • Tracy November 11, 2022 (8:54 am)

    Meanwhile on the “other” end of Alki we have junk RV’s , garbage, human waste and drug activity.  But hey at least the homeowners on the small stretch of Beach Drive have their own private road that we all pay for. 

  • Foop November 11, 2022 (9:30 am)

    The reading comprehension of commenter here is greatly concerning. I see many people calling this street a private park for the affluent, yet they forget about all of the apartments on the north side? Nothing private about a street design that encourages recreation! The *only* thing discouraged is driving through and bullying people trying to ride bikes, or walk their dogs or kids without being constrained to an undersized sidewalk.Parking is not being removed for this. The street will not be inaccessible to cars. Instead the entry to the street will be designed to encourage cars to come to a slow crawl upon entering, since the intent is that there will be other road users about. If you’re in a hurry to get to Alki or Lowman, you should be taking 63rd anyway.Less noise pollution? God forbid we have a space people can go recreate without cars zipping by. I can’t do that on Alki, in the Junction, at Mee Kwa Mooks, or anywhere else for that matter. God forbid the noise I hear is people talking, laughing, playing music, etc. as opposed to jerks in their escalades rumbling by.For the record, I live in South Delridge, and this stretch is a great detour on my peninsula loop bike ride I try to do most morning. It’s hard to enjoy the view from Alki when you’re constantly dodging cars on the road or all the people that fill up the limited path on the water side. I only wish we would do this in more commercial places, like along Alki or in the Junction so I can sit outside and enjoy a beer with friends without cars disturbing the peace. Patio seating in this city is absolutely miserable because of car culture.Carbrains are here in force losing it over insults they’re inventing in their own realities.

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