VIDEO: West Seattle Bridge reopening expected in September, SDOT announces

4:12 PM: Just announced by SDOT: The West Seattle Bridge is expected to reopen in September. From the written version of the announcement made during the Community Task Force meeting:

We expect the West Seattle Bridge to be open to traffic during the week of September 12. Sharing that today is a relief since our focus has always been on safely getting everyone back on the bridge ASAP. It’s been hard having to wait for this update, but we did need to get through the concrete work to understand exactly where we were schedule-wise. Thank you for being so patient, Seattle,” SDOT Program Manager Heather Marx said.

The disruptions caused by the regional concrete strike have had an ongoing impact on the project schedule. SDOT’s construction contractor originally planned to begin pouring concrete at the beginning of the year, but ultimately had to wait until mid-April to start pouring the structural concrete, which is essential to strengthening the bridge. Today’s announced schedule shift is about equal in length to the extra time spent waiting for concrete to arrive.

During the concrete strike, SDOT adjusted the sequence of work activities to minimize delays and keep the project moving forward in other ways. Crews never stopped working to repair and strengthen the bridge, and continued working on epoxy injections and carbon fiber wrapping during the wait for concrete.

Specialized structural concrete is an essential part of the plan to strengthen the bridge. Crews finished pouring structural concrete on May 26, 2022 and it takes 28 days for the concrete to fully harden and become strong enough to hold the 20 million pounds of force associated with the new post-tensioning system. Crews are currently in the process of installing ducts and threading steel cables through the concrete blocks, but must wait for the concrete to finish hardening before they can tighten these cables to strengthen the bridge and prevent future cracking.

Since the final structural concrete pour was completed, SDOT has worked with the construction contractor to finalize the sequence of the remaining work. SDOT will continue to hold its construction contractor accountable to meet their updated timeframe. Remaining repairs for completion of the project require challenging and complex work. SDOT released a tentative schedule today in the interest of transparency, and stressed that a project of this scale may still encounter additional unforeseen challenges outside the City’s control. SDOT will continue to provide ongoing construction updates and notify the public if the schedule changes. …

Final repairs to the bridge include three key repair procedures: epoxy injections to fill cracks, carbon-fiber wrapping to add strength, and post-tensioning with steel cables to compress the concrete.

After the post-tensioning is complete, crews will complete a final round of epoxy crack injections and carbon-fiber wrapping. They will also complete other work to prepare the bridge for reopening to traffic. This work includes replacing expansion joints, restoring the road by closing crew access holes, replacing overhead signs, replacing concrete panels east of 35th Ave SW, installing a concrete overlay on the Fauntleroy Expressway, and removing detours and adjusting traffic signals in West Seattle.

If this timeline holds, the bridge will reopen after 2 1/2 years of closure, dating back to its shutdown – with only a few hours of advance notice to the public – on March 23, 2020. Three weeks later, SDOT warned the bridge wouldn’t reopen before 2022. Seven months after that, then-Mayor Jenny Durkan announced her decision to proceed with repairing rather than replacing the bridge. Stabilization work had already been done; one year after the mayor’s announcement, “final repairs” began.

Below, our continuing coverage of the Community Task Force meeting at which today’s announcement was made:

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4:01 PM, MEETING BEGINS: Two years and two and a half months after the West Seattle Bridge‘s emergency closure began, its end may finally be in sight. We’re expecting news of a reopening date during the Community Task Force meeting that’s just under way – we’ll be chronicling the meeting live below this video window you can use to watch:

The meeting began with a mention of two traffic deaths in West Seattle and SODO last month. Task Force co-chair Greg Nickels then offered reflections, and thanks, noting it’s been two years since then-Mayor Jenny Durkan convened the advisory group. He talked about the group’s advocacy for ensuring people in need of life-saving medical treatment could use the low bridge – noting he and his wife Sharon Nickels needed that as she underwent months of cancer treatment.

SDOT interim director Kristen Simpson also offered gratitude to the CTF members.

4:11 PM: Bridge program director Heather Marx says the bridge will is expected to reopen “the week of September 12th.” We’ve now added the written announcement above, but will continue chronicling the meeting here. She says “structural concrete curing,” epoxy injection, carbon-fiber wrapping, post-tensioning, and other work remains. “A precise date” is expected with one month’s notice, Marx says. She warns there are still risks to even that schedule.

4:17 PM: City Councilmember Lisa Herbold asks if there’s any way the bridge could open sooner – like, before school starts. Marx says the bridge crews “are already working 60 hours a week” so adding to that isn’t feasible, but they’re looking at other options. How’s the falcon nest doing? asks CTF member Deb Barker. Fine, says Marx.

Next, CTF member Dan Austin says he’s astonished (not in a good way) by the September date. Marx tries to explain that the delay, saying, “When I heard September, my heart sank.”

4:28 PM: CTF member Anne Higuera says this would still be in the third quarter, and she’s OK with that. Marx warns that “schedules are malleable” and “this might still be something of a roller-coaster in the next few months.” Then she goes into a recap of what’s been done so far and what’s yet to be done.

4:38 PM: Now on to the low bridge, which also has repair work planned. Some closures are anticipated, no dates yet. Marx also reiterated that low-bridge restrictions will be lifted once the high bridge reopens. She also discussed the sequencing of testing and finishing touches at the end of the process. “The bridge you’re getting back is going to be better,” she insisted. … What kind of monitoring is planned in the future? she was asked. “The bridge is (now) all wired up,” Marx noted, adding “it’s a little more expensive taking care of a repaired bridge than a new bridge” – more repainting will be needed, because some of the repair components are UV-sensitive, for example. That’ll require financial support for more bridge maintenance, it was noted.

4:51 PM: Co-chair Nickels notes that this remains the last scheduled meeting of the CTF, though the bridge won’t be reopening for (at least) three months – unless something major happens. He mentions there’ll be some kind of ribboncutting before it reopens (that would be separate from the celebration that a community coalition’s been planning). Co-chair Paulina López offers her reflections too, asking CTF members to share their thoughts on how their part of the process has gone.

5:06 PM: What ensued was more a round of thanks and acknowledgments, and now the meeting is over. Bottom line again: SDOT does not expect the bridge to reopen before “the week of September 12th.”

262 Replies to "VIDEO: West Seattle Bridge reopening expected in September, SDOT announces"

  • Matty June 9, 2022 (4:14 pm)

    SEPT 12TH!? WTF — THIS IS TERRIBLE! 

    • Gatewood resident June 9, 2022 (6:15 pm)

      You can thank the teamsters for that

      • Also John June 9, 2022 (6:48 pm)

        @Gatewood resident:   I completely agree!  They set the completion date months behind.

      • Shotinthefoot June 9, 2022 (9:30 pm)

        Yeah, blame the union but not the owners (ahem, Gary Merlino) of the companies who refused to negotiate. How’s that boot taste? 

        • WSRes June 10, 2022 (8:52 am)

          The owners were constantly negotiating and the union turned them down over and over. The drivers were paid far over the industry average for this area and that kind of work and given far better pension, health and other benefits that other drivers. Yet the union kept wanting more and more and now they got nothing. And by nothing they are still operating on the terms of the old contract which was EXTREMELY favorable for the workers.So yes, I think we have a bit of a right to be angry at the union for delaying the bridge opening by about 2 months. The amount of carbon that gets released everyday via the detour is horrible for the environment but it looks like the detour will still be the only way out until September 12.

          • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:00 am)

            Where’s you get your info because you are COMPLETELY wrong. The union already negotiated, a contract was already agreed on, and the companies then backed out and refused to honor it. The drivers were paid under national standard, according to the negotiated contract, on the commitment by the company that they would be brought up to the national standard after a period of three years. Again the companies reneged on that agreement and told the drivers they would be replaced with scabs.  You have less than zero clue wtf you’re talking about. 

    • Zipda June 9, 2022 (9:02 pm)

      September 12th, 2025. Excellent.

  • Vlad June 9, 2022 (4:15 pm)

    Pathetic.

  • Simone June 9, 2022 (4:15 pm)

    BOOOOOOOO! I am so disapointed. this summer will be hell. 

  • Wsresident June 9, 2022 (4:17 pm)

    So Xmas present? This is just insane. 

  • CarDriver June 9, 2022 (4:17 pm)

    Week of September12th………..Bet that gets slid if SDOT has their way.

    • MW June 10, 2022 (12:31 pm)

      Slid over & over.  They’ve been a bad faith agency since the 2020 start of this when they tactically  S-L-O-W walked any decision that would have helped reopen the bridge sooner.  

  • Matty June 9, 2022 (4:17 pm)

    TOTAL FAILURE

  • Revilo June 9, 2022 (4:21 pm)

    Lame.  Thanks for all the previous info setting us up for mid-summer opening.

    • DC June 9, 2022 (4:56 pm)

      I’ve defended the cities use of mid-2022 as meaning anytime in the middle third of the year. But September is officially NOT mid-2022. They missed the mark here. 

    • Karin June 9, 2022 (5:38 pm)

      What a failure! The management team should be ashamed to take such a long time to repair it. Politics, bureaucracy messing up 

    • Kevin June 9, 2022 (9:43 pm)

      It was mid-2022 prior to the strike setting the project back months. If you can’t do a critical step on a project for months, deadlines are going to slip. Why is that a surprise?

      • Bronson June 10, 2022 (6:57 am)

        Probably because they lied Kevin. They previously explicitly stated that the delay caused by the strike was not a 1:1 delay in days in the timeline. However, that is exactly what this timeline represents. 

        • Anne Higuera June 10, 2022 (3:16 pm)

          I asked that question at the Community Task Force meeting where the threat of delays due to the concrete strike came up and the answer was that it was likely not a 1:1 delay in days, and could very well be longer than that. SDOT did not lie.

  • miws June 9, 2022 (4:22 pm)

    Uh…oh…

  • Beanie June 9, 2022 (4:23 pm)

    “Thank you for being so patient” made me laugh out loud. We haven’t been patient. We had no choice.

    • Admiral June 9, 2022 (8:54 pm)

      Right? I snort laughed at that comment. Whatever WSDOT. This will forever be one of that agency’s biggest misses. 

      • WSB June 9, 2022 (9:13 pm)

        Just to be clear:
        SDOT (Seattle Department of Transportation) is who’s involved here
        WSDOT (Washington State Department of Transportation) is not

  • Ann Adachi June 9, 2022 (4:24 pm)

    Thanks for this exciting news West Seattle Blog! I was hoping it would be this summer but hey, not gonna complain because at least now we have a date. Let the party begin! 

    • Buttercup June 9, 2022 (4:39 pm)

      Thank you Anne for your positive attitude. So nice to hear that someone else can think with good thoughts rather than complaining and bitching all the time. At least we have a bridge and we know that it is getting fixed rather than living in countries that don’t have roadscall bridges that are accessible

      • Alki resident June 9, 2022 (7:37 pm)

        Let’s focus on SDOT epic fail instead of other countries. 

        • sam June 9, 2022 (8:26 pm)

          Its funny that back when I was in the middle east, before migrating to the US, we had a bridge that got bombed and we were not able to use. It took the government many years to fix and we all kept saying in America and Europe this would have taken a month to fix…. now when I tell them about this bridge saga they still don’t believe it’s happening in the so called a 1st world country.

  • DJ Allyn June 9, 2022 (4:25 pm)

    What you missed in the wording is that the EARLIEST they plan on opening the bridge back up is in mid-September.  It could be two months after that — they don’t know.This is utterly ridiculous.  There is absolutely NO reason they couldn’t reopen the bridge to limited, metered traffic.Let’s also NEVER forget how we got here, with a city council and SDOT that was more concerned about building bike lanes and creating ‘safe places’ to play instead of spending the BILLION they spent on bike lanes towards actually inspecting and maintaining the existing transportation infrastructures.

    • WSB June 9, 2022 (4:32 pm)

      No, I didn’t “miss” anything. There are many ways I could have worded the headline, like “bridge won’t reopen before September.” They said, in writing, they “expect” it to reopen in September. (See the directly quoted news release.) So for now, that’s the bottom line. For now.

      • Kase June 9, 2022 (5:08 pm)

        cleared

    • Dan h June 9, 2022 (4:33 pm)

      Are you an engineer? How do you know there’s no reason they couldn’t open it? What are your qualifications. 

      • CarDriver June 9, 2022 (4:42 pm)

        Dan H. Are YOU an engineer? Tell us why the delay is justified.

        • Duh June 9, 2022 (10:49 pm)

          So much complaining,  if you people spent more time doing something productive,  and less time belly aching. My god you guys are unbelievable. Now put your phones down,  slow down,  you lost the west marginal 500. Day after day,  same stuff. So many,  I repeat so many privileged people here.  If you don’t like the way it is going,  then move.  Just stop complaining. I swear you are the ones running the red lights at marginal and highland Park so the traffic goes no where. Leave earlier,  get off your damn phone.  

          • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:03 am)

            Complaining about people complaining – whoosh.

          • Spicy Eight Piece June 10, 2022 (1:00 pm)

            @Zark: I read that as instructing chronic complainers how to become less obnoxious and unbearable to be around. I’m disappointed naturally, but also happy that it’s on the horizon; we will soon have the bridge back for another glorious 40 years to “enjoy”.

    • CJ June 9, 2022 (5:04 pm)

      OMG this take on the situation is a laugh-out-loud level of ridiculous. Did you really just try to criticize Seattle for having bike lanes and places where people can play safely? You’re living in a whole different and pretty unpleasant sounding reality, DJ. Let’s be grateful we have bikes and playgrounds and also a bridge that isn’t going to fall down.

    • Blbl June 9, 2022 (6:00 pm)

      Exactly, DJ Allyn. I wish we had moved to Mercer Island as soon as this completely predictable fiasco happened in 2020. 

      • hj June 9, 2022 (8:26 pm)

        If it was so predictable then why didn’t you move before it happened?

      • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (9:52 am)

        You do realize the minute you do so the floating bridge won’t?

    • KT June 9, 2022 (6:18 pm)

      Hear, hear.

    • Reed June 9, 2022 (6:24 pm)

      Many of us use those bike lanes daily so that we are not stuck in traffic like chumps. Your bed, you sleep in it.

      • ch June 10, 2022 (5:47 pm)

        Great option for some, but unfortunately biking isn’t an option for everyone, depending on the destination, distance and physical ability.

    • Also John June 9, 2022 (6:54 pm)

      ‘Billions for bike lanes’?  Please tell me which SDOT bike lane projects equate to $1,000,000,000?

    • bill June 9, 2022 (8:57 pm)

      DJ: Show us where the BILLION in bike lanes is. I’ll wait. On second thought, no I won’t. There is no BILLION in bike lanes, no matter how fevered you imagination.

    • Derek June 10, 2022 (7:01 am)

      There is absolutely NO reason they couldn’t reopen the bridge to limited, metered traffic.

      LOL. No reason except the literal holes in the bridge and the uncured concrete. 

  • Mary Ann & Larry Heeren June 9, 2022 (4:26 pm)

    This Sept. 12th date is a VERY big disappointment.  The news until today has remained “Mid Year”!  We do not like this announcement without prior warning.Mary Ann and Larry Heeren, North Admiral

    • Agreed… June 9, 2022 (8:58 pm)

      … WSDOT completely missed “mid-year” with this. And these bridge meetings they host have been a joke. I watch on YouTube and end up yelling at my computer in frustration.  

  • PP4Life June 9, 2022 (4:29 pm)

    Ugh, trying to remain optimistic is darn near impossible with this city. Two months longer than what we’ve been told. So tired of feeling like a prisoner on this island in my free time. 

  • Cs June 9, 2022 (4:36 pm)

    Find it funny that Heather Marx is saying she is one of us and feels the pain even though it clearly shows she is not even in west Seattle from her video as it is down pouring outside and she looks like she is just near the woods without any rain in view.

    • WSB June 9, 2022 (4:44 pm)

      She said just before the meeting that she and her family are on a long-scheduled vacation. She apparently didn’t expect it to still be closed by now, either.

      • Cs June 9, 2022 (4:52 pm)

        I missed that. Thanks.

  • CarDriver June 9, 2022 (4:36 pm)

    SDOT. S:slow D:delay O:obstruct T:trustless.

    • Stuck at home June 9, 2022 (5:44 pm)

      S: striking D: drivers O: obliterate T: timeline

      • Alki resident June 9, 2022 (7:43 pm)

        Striking drivers didn’t plan on it. They went back to work because scabs were taking over and so you could get your bridge back.  They still don’t have a new contract.

  • #2024Hopeful June 9, 2022 (4:37 pm)

    Ahaha, it’s been 2.5 years and ya’ll upset about another couple of months. I’m looking forward to it opening in 2023. 

    • Elton June 9, 2022 (5:06 pm)

      +1 to this XDPretty much the expected response from folks though – any date that is not tomorrow was bound to be met with backlash. Remember that before this announcement we had no real timeline update after the concrete strike. I, for one, am grateful this is the extent of the slippage amount given how long the concrete strike went on for and delayed things. But let’s see if they adhere to the Sep date now….   To everyone upset it wasn’t the literal middle of summer: the language I always saw was “mid-year”, which in my mind was a weasel word to begin with. The middle of the year is practically any time between March and November. If they meant mid-summer they would’ve said “Summer 2022”.

      • m June 9, 2022 (5:39 pm)

        Agreed.  People should be upset with the concrete strike that set this whole thing back.  Point the finger at Merlino Construction and their inability to get a deal done.  Doesn’t the owner live in West Seattle?

  • Amy June 9, 2022 (4:43 pm)

    Not thrilled with it being September, but thinking the concrete strike wouldn’t change the ‘mid year’ opening was foolish. I’m glad they falcons are being still doing okay as well. 

  • River June 9, 2022 (4:44 pm)

    Anyone surprised by this?  If so I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

  • Mj June 9, 2022 (4:46 pm)

    This is total BS, traffic is already terrible and another summer of not being able to do afternoon hikes, without devoting a whole day, really sucks.

    • Reed June 9, 2022 (6:27 pm)

      Have you not driven out I-90 in the middle of the day over the past few years? Traffic is terrible over there midday as well, the bridge isn’t your only problem!

  • GDub June 9, 2022 (4:47 pm)

    How do we know that date is firm and that they’re not just stringing us along?

    • Wsresident June 10, 2022 (5:14 am)

      “She warns there are still risks to even that schedule.”

  • Janelle June 9, 2022 (4:47 pm)

    I’m excited there’s a date! It’ll be great to have it open before the weather starts getting worse again — if the weather ever actually gets better first… :) I haven’t been following the news on this too much, does anyone know if the city is planning any sort of opening event or fun run? I loved doing the Tunnel to Viaduct run – one last chance to run on the viaduct before they tore it down and got a chance to run through the tunnel before opening! It would be awesome if we got a chance to run the repaired bridge as well!

    • WSB June 9, 2022 (5:02 pm)

      A community coalition is planning a reopening event that at last word will include a “fun run.” Now that there’s a potential ballpark date for reopening, you’ll likely hear more about the plan – TR

  • Um, No! June 9, 2022 (4:48 pm)

    I mean, did anyone really and truly think it was going to happen by mid year based on the complete incompetence to date?  I’ll be absolutely shocked if it opens before 2023. What has this city ever done to give you any hope this won’t be delayed and delayed again And, before someone questions me saying the city, whatever.  County, City, WSDOT,  who cares at this point.   And before someone smugly asks,  no I’m not an engineer.  And no, not a Trump supporter.  And, I’m for less Bikes lanes. Deal with it. 

    • KT June 9, 2022 (5:14 pm)

      Hear, hear!

    • Reed June 9, 2022 (6:30 pm)

      Less bike lanes means I ride in traffic more often, slowing you down further; is that what you want?

    • Also John June 9, 2022 (7:00 pm)

      I support opening all roads to bikers.  Vehicles will simply need to go our speed.  Sorry if you’re in a hurry.  Just leave earlier knowing bikes will be in the middle of the road.

    • bill June 9, 2022 (9:01 pm)

      Um No!: Hey if you want me off my bike and in my car, driving the speed limit in front of you, I can do that!

      • Um, No! June 10, 2022 (5:36 pm)

        That would be great!  Thank you. 

  • J June 9, 2022 (4:48 pm)

    I want to cry.

  • Sasquatch June 9, 2022 (4:53 pm)

    disappointing to say the least. really puts a damper on enjoying what the rest of Seattle has to offer for fun this summer. 

  • HL June 9, 2022 (4:55 pm)

    It’s nice to have a target, and appreciate all the hard work that has gone into this effort. The September timing wasn’t surprising given some of the challenges that happened over the last 2yrs.

  • Thd3 June 9, 2022 (4:57 pm)

    Absolutely insane – get this bridge open – Sept is NUTS! If I see a kiddie parade or bike ride instead of a day that a car can get on that thing – I will lose my marbles 

    • Lol… yes! June 9, 2022 (9:01 pm)

      Could not agree more! I hear talk of a party on the bridge on opening day. Don’t you dare WSDOT. Just open the dang thing. Have your pat each other on the back (for what???) party on Alki, if you must. 

  • jack June 9, 2022 (4:59 pm)

    Is that a light I see on the other side of the Bridge?

  • WS Guy June 9, 2022 (5:00 pm)

    Abject failure by SDOT and city leadership.  Was anyone fired over this?

    • Stuck at home June 9, 2022 (5:48 pm)

      The concrete driver strike was not the fault of SDOT or city leaders.

      • Blbl June 9, 2022 (9:42 pm)

        The bridge closure is 100% SDOT’s fault, and fixing it is 100% their responsibility. Stop deflecting, StuckAtHome. 

        • Stuck at home June 10, 2022 (7:27 am)

          Tell me how to fix a bridge without concrete. 

      • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (9:58 am)

        The failure to identify the concrete driver strike as an immediate threat the day it started and intervene using local, state and national labor laws that enforce various mechanisms to keep people working, mediation, etc. is ABSOLUTELY the failure here.  Everybody kinda whistled, looked away, botched parking enforcement, anything but panic with their hair on fire that this was going to impact tens of thousands of drivers and hundreds of thousands of residents with the excessive time, trip and pollution.Leadership and competency would’ve forced this sooner.  Both sides of the negotiation are at fault, but the SDOT, Harrell, Constantine and Herbold are responsible for not adequately intervening.  And no, that’s not socialism.  It’s the same mechanism that keeps truckers, trains, planes and other labor areas from choking the economy.  Use it.

    • Kevin on Delridge June 10, 2022 (11:37 am)

      Can we fire you? 

  • NN June 9, 2022 (5:04 pm)

    The communications from the city have gone out of their way to stress that work never stopped during the schedule interruption caused by the concrete strike, mentioning they were able to reorder tasks in order to keep working. I had the impression this was to mitigate the effect of the delay by accomplishing things now that were originally scheduled for after the concrete completion, yet the communication today notes the extension of the schedule is roughly equivalent to the period of the delay. Is there any information on whether time was saved by doing other tasks during the concrete delay? 

    • drM June 9, 2022 (9:00 pm)

      Hear hear!!! Now all of a sudden it’s the concrete strike. Pathetic. At this rate, I would be surprised if it opens before the end of the year. And, of course, Ms Herbold is the cheerleader for this.

      • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (10:00 am)

        She was too busy reallocating parking enforcement to another city agency.  Look how that turned out.  

    • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (9:59 am)

      Don’t see it – by my calculations it was a day-for-day slip, so they’re either hiding some other problems or they just weren’t forthright with the fact that this was the critical path and there was no way around it.  My guess is “both”.

  • KT June 9, 2022 (5:05 pm)

    This has been a mess from the beginning. They watched it crumble had no plan in place and seem to be reactive when we elect them to be proactive. I’d like to see an investigation into SDOT malfeasance. September is a goal. It could even be longer. This country used to be able to build new bridges in less time. What an epic failure on the part of our local government. 

    • Tony G June 9, 2022 (6:15 pm)

      Well said KT 

    • bill June 9, 2022 (9:05 pm)

      KT: The City, aka the Council members you elected, decided to underfund maintenance for DECADES. Just be grateful you’re alive today to complain rather than one of avoided fatalities had the bridge not been monitored at all and closed when it was. BTW increased maintenance is going to require more taxes — something else you will be alive to complain about.

      • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:19 am)

        The council tried, multiple times, to generate funds for bridge maintenance through car tab fees. You voted it down, and so our bridges are falling apart. Put the blame where it belongs. Go back and reread the MyNorthwest articles you got your misinformation from. They even admit now that they had a hand in crippling Seattle’s infrastructure maintenance goals.

  • GDub June 9, 2022 (5:06 pm)

    What assurances do we have that they won’t just punt it another three months when the time comes? If they’ve been working on everything else while waiting for the concrete what accounts for the 2.5 month delay? Doesn’t that mean they could have announced the delay two months ago?

  • stupidinseattle June 9, 2022 (5:08 pm)

    Total incompetence by SDOT and our city elected officials led to this bridge being shut down suddenly and without warning.  Total incompetence continues for two-and-a-half years from a city government that is incapable of managing the repairs.  And that felt no compulsion to expedite placing a large and critical piece of highway infrastructure back into service.  Vote accordingly in November.  And keep your party.

  • Peter June 9, 2022 (5:11 pm)

    A lot of people seems very angry about a September opening instead of mid year. Remember to direct your anger at those who are actually responsible for the delay: unions. 

    • CarDriver June 9, 2022 (6:39 pm)

      Peter. Getting fair wages and benefits are what unions are for. You must be corporate, or work for SDOT. 

    • Mark47n June 10, 2022 (11:03 am)

      I’m pretty sure you mean corporate overlords, right?

    • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:22 am)

      Clearly you have not spent even 30 seconds reading about the strike, what caused it, and what the concrete companies did to these working families.  Why don’t you support the working families of Seattle?  Why are you so anti average Joe and so completely sycophantic to rich owners? Corporate greed caused this, unions are the ONLY reason you might get a bridge in Sept. 

    • shotinthefoot June 10, 2022 (1:31 pm)

      ooh, corporate boot licking is so hot right now. direct your ire to Gary Merlino, not that he GAF. 

  • dc June 9, 2022 (5:12 pm)

    Still complaining? You had two years to pick up shop and leave, but you’re still here. Actions speak louder than comments, idiots.We made it this long. The sky hasn’t fallen. West Seattle is not dead, or even dying. Quit your whining people. Bring on September.

    • Mel June 9, 2022 (5:46 pm)

      Terrible comment. Pick up and leave? Yeah that’s super easy with housing prices, kids already enrolled in schools/daycare, etc. There are many obstacles making it very hard for most of us to just pickup and move. So yeah I think we’re entitled to complain about government incompetence. 

    • YES2WS June 9, 2022 (6:11 pm)

      @dc,, you’re calling people idiots while at the same time suggesting they do the fiscally irresponsible thing and move for a temporary situation. And they’re the idiots? And all because why? They’re complaining and that upsets you? Ck the mirror… you’re complaining too

    • Scubafrog June 9, 2022 (6:42 pm)

      Please don’t resort name-calling, there’s no place for that here DC.  Thank you.

    • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:23 am)

      Complaining about people complaining – so pathetic. 

  • KT June 9, 2022 (5:12 pm)

    SDOT and our local government watched the West Seattle bridge crumble and did nothing. They have been reactive rather than proactive throughout the whole endeavor. They had no plan in place prior to a bridge closure they knew would to happen. We pay our elected leaders to leaders to be proactive. This is an epic failure of local government and there should be an investigation into malfeasance.

    • 22blades June 10, 2022 (10:02 am)

      You forgot the ALL CAPS.

  • Jon June 9, 2022 (5:13 pm)

    A complete failure in government and leadership in general. This city is a joke. 

  • Garruchal June 9, 2022 (5:14 pm)

    Hats off to Heather Marx, doing a really difficult job and doing it well. Yeah, it sucks that the probable opening date is in September. I don’t see any blame to throw around though; they informed us about the delays, almost down to the day. Big project = long timeline.

    • Sparky June 9, 2022 (9:01 pm)

      Holy cow manure Batman, do you work for SDOT?  Neither Sept. 12 nor “the week of Sept. 12,” depending on which part of her presentation you caught, had any credibility.  It was basically, here’s a date anybody who paid attention to the cement strike could have guessed back in April.  No details.  No supporting information.  Just a number plucked out of the air and then a warning that it might be later.  It’s like there is zero project management going on at SDOT.

    • Bronson June 10, 2022 (7:07 am)

      They 100% did not inform us about this level of delay. In fact, they explicitly stated that the concrete strike was not a 1:1 delay in days, when in fact it was. They also kept acting like the other work they were doing was a reshuffle from the back end and would help the overall timeline. Doesn’t seem to be the case.    

    • JenT June 10, 2022 (10:09 am)

      Doing a good job?! She’s been the cynical face of this disaster since the week of March 23, 2020. As a resident new to West Seattle then, we tuned in to that very first Town Hall, and our hearts sank when she showed not an iota of compassion in delivering the news along with Sam Z. We’d have to “figure it out” if we needed to leave. We’d have to “go south” for medical care if we needed a hospital (I mean, who cares about something small like where our actual doctors are). The fact any of this team at SDOT still has a job is unbelievable. 

      • Blbl June 10, 2022 (12:56 pm)

        Agreed. Time to clean house. 

    • Colonel Mustard's Wrench June 10, 2022 (3:24 pm)

      Heather Marx has no business talking to the public. 
      She has been offensive and insulting right out of the gate when this debacle happened, and has repeatedly kicked West Seattle residents in the shins at every turn. 
      If she is allowed to continue working at SDOT, it should be a desk job that does NOT interface with the public. 
      None of us have appreciated her rude manner.

  • Blbl June 9, 2022 (5:14 pm)

    FAIL. Incompetence is right. I can’t believe SDOT can away with this. 

  • Vee June 9, 2022 (5:21 pm)

    Too long especially  with gas prices, 3 more mths and making summer  even worse, people are getting very impatient,  concrete  strike shouldn’t add 3 mths, please do something 

    • My two cents June 9, 2022 (7:55 pm)

      The cost of gas enters into this how? The extra time spent getting in and out of West Seattle?

      • P. Phukety June 10, 2022 (2:39 pm)

        Yes, I spend more miles on the road getting to destinations due to the current detours. More miles = more gas. Not a difficult concept, really. 

    • bill June 9, 2022 (9:08 pm)

      Vee: Not being able to drive out of West Seattle is saving you money.    

    • Kevin on Delridge June 10, 2022 (11:39 am)

      I am not impatient nor getting impatient, speak for yourself. 

  • gripster June 9, 2022 (5:22 pm)

    Wow.  Are some of you as unhappy in your real life as you are here?  I’m thinking SDOT will punt the opening date yet another three months simply in response to the sheer volume of negativity in these comment sections.  Jeez, people – get a grip.

    • Fairmont June 9, 2022 (5:47 pm)

      We are sick and tired of the incompetence. You should be too. Heather Marx is there to make you feel good and forget about all the screw ups they’ve made…

      • Mr. Bill June 9, 2022 (7:08 pm)

        So that is a “yes” for you, then.  Maybe you should try meditation or take up bonsai. I sincerely hope you find some peace within. 

  • LongWayAround June 9, 2022 (5:23 pm)

    Thank you, Teamster drivers, for extending our pain into September!

    • Hey There June 9, 2022 (6:20 pm)

      Actually, you can thank the concrete companies who don’t want to negotiate in good faith.  If you are going to be angry, at least direct it correctly.

  • Fairmont June 9, 2022 (5:25 pm)

    Can we class action the city for negligence yet? This is ridiculous. Capitol Hill is doing it for CHOP. They’re taking their time once again. The concrete is drying, they have to tighten the steel then do load testing. I’m sorry but that’s an August timeline not September.

  • Nicki June 9, 2022 (5:29 pm)

    I’m thankful that we have a date. If it turns out to be later, boo, but who knows it may end up earlier.

  • WS Person June 9, 2022 (5:31 pm)

    Come on People! Who thought they would hit their date, especially with the concrete strike?

  • flimflam June 9, 2022 (5:33 pm)

    I’ll bet anyone willing  $100 it will absolutely NOT be open September 12th!

  • tightrope June 9, 2022 (5:45 pm)

    Good grief, people.  Some of you need to join a gym or find some sort of outlet for your rage.  Seriously.  Are all of you really this miserable outside of the comment section?  

    • Reed June 9, 2022 (7:07 pm)

      Or start functioning in life with less use of a car. Walk or ride a bike to do simple errands or get to work. I love the stress relieving bike ride I have to and from work each day.

      • Chelsea June 10, 2022 (6:43 am)

        Oh Reed that’s a stellar idea! I’ll show up in Greenlake to tour my clients through five homes within 10 miles of each other, and finish in decent time, oN a BiKe. Not all jobs can be done pedaling around- some people actually need their cars for work.

        • YES2WS June 10, 2022 (4:16 pm)

          Thank you, Chelsea! I read this guy’s response and just couldn’t deal with the thought of fielding it. His message is so narrow-sighted and old

          • Reed June 11, 2022 (8:09 am)

            What’s narrow-sighted and old is the notion that people living in a city must use a car for every function.

    • Scubafrog June 9, 2022 (7:28 pm)

      Yeah, the nerve!  Years stuck in stopped-traffic with road-ragers.  You’d think some were insane to express themselves appropriately in the comment section of our local news site!  :)

      • Uncle Leo June 9, 2022 (7:34 pm)

        What makes me angry are all the tourists at Ivar’s that feed french fries to the seagulls. Those damn birds keep pooping on my car. 

  • Sara June 9, 2022 (5:47 pm)

    I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m still betting on it opening late January 2023. 

    • Beto June 9, 2022 (10:47 pm)

      I agree with you.  Things never happen as promised here in Seattle. I’m surprised people haven’t learned from past experiences.

    • Colonel Mustard's Wrench June 10, 2022 (3:31 pm)

      2023 reopening ! 
      Ha ! 
      That would be tragic ! 
      But it might be the most realistic !

  • Anne Higuera June 9, 2022 (5:50 pm)

    I’ve been  on the community task force for the last 2 years and I just pulled up the projected schedule from exactly a year ago. It showed completion at the end of Quarter 2,  which SDOT presentations to the CTF had been showing at least since March of  2021.  In early 2022, SDOT warned that concrete needed to start being poured by the third week of February or there would be delays, and that it would not be a day-by-day increase in time, but could go out even further. It was 2 months after that February deadline before concrete was finally poured following the end of the strike, and, look now: The projected opening is just barely 2 months past what SDOT’s been projecting as completion for more than a year. Everyone wants the bridge to open as soon as possible, but all of the comments above about failure and being blindsided don’t actual line up with the reality that SDOT has communicated clearly about this all along and that the projections they’ve made for more than a year have been entirely accurate except for delays tied to a concrete strike they had no control over. 

    • Cash That Sanity Check June 9, 2022 (6:58 pm)

      Thank you Anne for your thoughtful, educated response. It seems the armchair bridge engineers are out in force today and have nothing more productive to do than yell at the clouds. I appreciate the time you spent on the advisory board and seeing this through. 

    • Sorry not sorry June 9, 2022 (7:03 pm)

      Totally. The nerve of people to think SDOT was capable of repairing the most used piece of infrastructure in the city when they said they would! Folks SDOT has been telling you for a year your house would burn down. Don’t be upset now that your house has burned down. 

    • Reed June 9, 2022 (7:09 pm)

      Thank you for this, but facts and reasoning don’t matter to these people.

    • Bronson June 10, 2022 (7:11 am)

      But Anne, as you stated, they said it would not be a 1:1 delay, but it was. That is what I am upset about and probably others as well. Thank you for your work on this. 

      • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (10:17 am)

        Anne – Bronsons is precisely right and despite all the people that want us to just shut up and take it there are 2 significant drivers to our angst:1 – There is indeed a day for day slip from the drop-dead date of strike resolution.  SDOT (and everyone around it) has been disingenuous about the workarounds, which gives zero confidence that there wasn’t – or that there won’t be – other issues leading to delays.2 – The concrete strike started in NOVEMBER.  We didn’t see/hear much about its impact to the bridge until Bruce and Dow did a presser in mid-February.  Was SDOT and the city government just blissfully unaware?  Were they waiting for a miracle?  Did they not examine every legal mechanism to bring both sides to a settlement or an exception for public impact?  I think the answer is no, Jenny was too busy deleting texts.   This was a very sleepy response and does warrant any scrutiny and scorn it gets.

      • Nora June 10, 2022 (1:50 pm)

        The way I read what Anne shared, it sounds like SDOT was expecting a 1:1 delay or WORSE, not less than a 1:1 delay.”In early 2022, SDOT warned that concrete needed to start being poured by the third week of February or there would be delays, and that it would not be a day-by-day increase in time, but could go out even further.“Let’s be glad it’s 1:1.

        • Anne Higuera June 10, 2022 (3:25 pm)

          @ Nora is correct, and I answered Bronson on this topic further up in the thread. I had asked would it be 1:1, and the answer from SDOT was that it might not just be 1:1, but worse. There was never a suggestion that it would be less than a day for a day delay. I’m not sure in what construction world that would be the case anyway. @admyrl byrd, I recall conversation about the strike during the meetings well before the mention of the February schedule-impact deadline.  They were not oblivious.

  • JimBob Furgeson June 9, 2022 (5:52 pm)

    This city is so ridiculous. Prices are absurdly high on everything, dangerous homeless camps run rampant and they can’t even put together a band aid fix on the bridge in a reasonable timeframe. Hour long commutes to downtown are back on the menu. 

    • bill June 9, 2022 (9:11 pm)

      JimBob: You darn well better hope this is not a band aid fix. Go ahead, drive over the bridge first….

    • Kevin on Delridge June 10, 2022 (9:48 am)

      My commute is 25-35 by bus or 30 by bike.

      • Jay June 10, 2022 (11:38 am)

        1hr by bus (includes walking to the stop), 45 min by car, 25 min by bike. If I wasn’t able-bodied I’d be kind of screwed.

        • Kevin on Delridge June 10, 2022 (12:35 pm)

          Sounds like we should make sure to keep the bus lanes, sidewalk access, and other options for those with difficulties. If those who could use these forms of transportation actually did so we’d have more space on the road for those who need it.

          Oh, and make sure we zone and encourage resources being built within 15 minutes.

          https://www.15minutecity.com/about

        • James June 13, 2022 (11:30 am)

          The city has 95% able-bodied people. Yes we can provide a service for the handicap. But the able-bodied sure can ride a bike. And that would free up roads for more busses and train space.

  • StepBackFromThatLedgeMyFriend June 9, 2022 (5:56 pm)

    A lot of people posting comments during rush hour complaining about traffic.  I hope you aren’t doing it from your car.  

    • Jay June 10, 2022 (11:41 am)

      Why not? There’s a decent chance their transmission is in park. There are many points in a driving commute home from downtown where it is safe to use a smartphone.

  • Genesee June 9, 2022 (5:59 pm)

    Who is to be blamed for this? New bridges are constructed in less time than this. Who should be voted out

    • Colonel Mustard's Wrench June 10, 2022 (3:49 pm)

      A good starting point would be to NOT re-elect Lisa Herbold – for numerous reasons. 

      Of concern also is the culture at SDOT. 
      It is likely that in the 1980’s when the bridge was built, the engineering staff at SDOT understood the need to replace the bearings at the 30 year mark as required maintenance. 
      As that staff retired, that institutional knowledge was allowed to be lost. 
      Consequently, the bearings didn’t get replaced, and resulting cracks began forming. 
      SDOT needs a significant upgrade in knowledge in order to maintain this newly repaired bridge and the other bridges in the city. 
      SDOT is in poor shape, and needs extraordinary leadership to turn it around.

  • Thomas June 9, 2022 (6:01 pm)

    It really do be like an episode of Parks and Rec up in here. It’s disappointingly unsurprising news, but y’all’s attitudes are practically satirical.

    • AMC June 9, 2022 (7:30 pm)

      Thank you for humorously articulating what I’ve been feeling. The level of outrage about inconvenience never ceases to amaze me. 

      • Not From Oz June 9, 2022 (9:26 pm)

        This evening I went to buy a roll of tin foil but all the stores were sold out.  After reading through these comments it seems a lot of the WS populace have shiny new chapeaus.

      • BobbyJoe June 11, 2022 (12:22 pm)

        The word is entitlement. These people think they are the only people on the planet. So far the city should drop everything and spend unlimited money, commit unlimited resources, and drop everything for them. The rest of the city or state doesn’t matter because I am inconvenienced. Does it suck to have the bridge closed, of course it does. But wow. 

    • Chris June 9, 2022 (7:47 pm)

      To be fair, this is going slower than Ben’s claymation!

  • Scubafrog June 9, 2022 (6:33 pm)

    I wonder if a new bridge would’ve been quicker.   Pretty sad.  The concrete strike didn’t affect the opening, it never would’ve been open by June.  Nor will it be ready by September, I bet.  Seattle’s ineffectual bureaucracy at it’s worse, again.  How long did we wait for construction to even begin, from the day it was closed?  A year?  More?  Meh, 4-5 more months, then we’ll get what, 13 more years out of it.

    • WSB June 9, 2022 (6:37 pm)

      That part of the timeline is in our story above, after the announcement. Stabilization work began in the summer of 2020. But “final repairs,” not until last fall.

      • Scubafrog June 9, 2022 (6:58 pm)

        Thank you WSB – Cheers

    • sw June 9, 2022 (6:49 pm)

      I’m not an engineer, but I would be willing to bet we wouldn’t even be through the design phase had they decided to construct a new bridge. Just the environmental reviews would take years given all the stakeholders – City of Seattle, Army Corps of Engineers, USCG, Duwamish Tribe, likely the DOE with Superfund cleanup sites upstream, SDOT, WSDOT…. We’d be looking at YEARS before we’d have an operable bridge if they had chosen replacement. 

    • East Coast Cynic June 9, 2022 (6:55 pm)

      Supposedly, a new bridge would have taken closer to a decade to complete.That being said, I was overtly optimistic in that I thought it would open in August:).  I guess we can gut it out for a couple more months after waiting 2 years.  So glad I can work remotely to minimize the transit hiccups I would potentially deal with.

    • Beto June 9, 2022 (7:18 pm)

      I agree with you.  In Seattle things don’t work as they do in other cities. I think, sadly, that it may re-open until November. 

    • Jay June 10, 2022 (11:44 am)

      There were two new bridge options, fully tearing it down or a rapid replace with the existing supports. The rapid replace would have been a similar timeline. The drawn-out decision and RFP process meant that no action aside from temporary fixes was even considered for a full year. Had their been leadership driving swifter decisions and people rallied around sustainable long-term solutions we could have had a new bridge in the same time. Not long before, Italy had replaced a bigger bridge that failed and it only took them 18 months from the day of failure to the grand opening of the new bridge.

  • Mr Robert Dobalena June 9, 2022 (6:36 pm)

    Enough blame to go around here. This delay is not on SDOT.  Teamsters Local 174 concrete drivers and their over zealous negotiators shut down major construction in Seattle for 3 months in a misguided attempt at extracting retirement medical benefits from the concrete companies and now they have no contract and we have no bridge. 

    • Derek June 9, 2022 (9:23 pm)

      You mean the teamster’s bosses? 

    • zark00 June 10, 2022 (11:31 am)

      You are wildly, irresponsibly, wrong about the strike. They had a negotiated contract, then Covid hit and the companies said ‘we can’t do it, please let us delay, this pandemic will shut us down’ – so the drivers, in good faith, accepted the delay. Once the time came to honor the already agreed upon contract, the companies backed out and said they would not honor it. Again the union went into negotiations, for something that was already agreed on, and again the companies negotiated in bad faith and threatened the drivers job with scabs or simply shutting down until they bled the drivers dry and forced them to quit.  Why do you hate Seattle’s working families?

  • Uncle loco June 9, 2022 (6:37 pm)

    I’m thinking the glass is half full. They set the Sept. 12th date anticipating they’ll finish a few weeks ahead of schedule to look like heroes.

    • Sparky June 9, 2022 (9:20 pm)

      You think they are sandbagging?  You care for a bit of a wager?

      • Uncle loco June 10, 2022 (6:19 am)

        I don’t have any inside info but I do have some experience with construction schedules and hard dates for project completion. It would be foolish to not give yourself a cushion for a completion date. Issues can and most likely will arise that will cause delays. Sometimes you get lucky and things run like clockwork but that is rare. I’ll wager a couple of tacos that the bridge will open labor day weekend…

    • Beer Me June 10, 2022 (7:56 am)

      I like your thinking! But you are loco. :-) 

      • Uncle loco June 10, 2022 (11:33 am)

        Part of me wants to complain but anything I’d have to say has already been posted on here. I’m just clinging to the last bit of optimism I have while laughing in my beer.

  • wetone June 9, 2022 (6:38 pm)

    Seattle city government officials and many from SDOT doing what they do best, not being truthful…….. Social Engineering at work ;). Highrise should of never been shut down in first place but many of those involved didn’t have the guts to stand up and found it easier to go with flow and leave. People should vote no for everything this city asks for until we see accountability……… As infrastructure of Seattle is failing in every aspect. All work being done on Highrise  could of been done while being open and closing lanes when needed. People need to really do their homework instead of believing our government in so issues, and this is a good example…… Money being spent on this project could of been spent a lot more wisely;) 

  • Kjb June 9, 2022 (6:39 pm)

    Really hoping it won’t hit 1000 days before it reopens!

  • K June 9, 2022 (6:43 pm)

    What was the Task Force’s role in this whole thing? It seemed like it was just additional meetings for local leadership and SDOT and a chosen few, but maybe there was something I missed? Did they receive different information that wasn’t privy to the general public?

    • WSB June 9, 2022 (7:09 pm)

      The CTF was an advisory group. At the very least, their meetings provided a regular opportunity for a public update on the bridge (not just the carefully parsed few lines in the weekly SDOT email blast) – and its members asked questions that brought out info that might not have come out otherwise. In addition to that, their ideas and concerns provided some important refinements – the example co-chair Greg Nickels gave today about ensuring the bridge-restriction exceptions included people who needed to cross the bridge for life-saving medical treatment. They also were consulted heavily on the repair-vs.-replace issue. But that’s just what I saw from the outside; the members likely have a lot more to say about what they contributed -TR

    • Sparky June 9, 2022 (9:18 pm)

      The Task Force was deployed to give the veneer of public input to a process that SDOT and Durkan drove the way they wanted regardless.  It’s a window dressing process that the city is quite adept at and it apparently worked quite well given the degree to which West Seattlites just accepted what SDOT shoveled at us.  You elect crap and you’ll get crap in return – and we seem happy to swallow all the crap.  

  • Sorry not sorry June 9, 2022 (6:58 pm)

    The complete and utter incompetence continues. I’m sorry but two and a half years to repair a bridge that shouldn’t have needed to be closed or repaired in the first place if basic maintenance was done. The bridge could have and should have been repaired much faster. Seattle wanted federal funding so they slow rolled it. They didn’t care about the impact on the community. And why should they because it’s not going to cost them anything. If this doesn’t cause West Seattle voters to revolt, nothing is going to.  It’s not like it mattered. Schools are struggling with one closing partly because they can’t get teachers to come to West Seattle.  Businesses have closed. Many are barely getting by. Working parents have lost time with their families. And those low income workers that Lisa Herbold cares so much about, how much extra money have they spent on gas because they have an extra hour daily commute. And based on the comments above apparently if you have the audacity to expect results and accountability from SDOT and the city of Seattle you have anger management problems or you just like to complain.  

  • Ridesabikenotbychoice June 9, 2022 (7:01 pm)

    We, the tax paying and specifically the home owning and voting population of this city deserve every bit of this. Every negative comment (expect the ones that are just wack) is correct and justified. However we voted (or didn’t even vote) for council members, mayors and city officials who made appointments and decisions that are directly responsible for us not having a bridge right now. We should all complain because the response to this has been disgraceful, but we should absolutely shoulder our part of the blame as well. The same goes for the comments about crime and homeless issues. 

    • K June 9, 2022 (7:45 pm)

      Won’t someone please think of the home owners?!?

      • Amy June 9, 2022 (9:04 pm)

        So, specifilcy, if you aren’t a home owner then what? You pay taxes, and property taxes in your rent. Please do not equate to owning a home as having more value in this issue. 

  • Late for Dinner June 9, 2022 (7:02 pm)

    So frustrating.  Mid year was June 30.  We were told one month notice would be given. I assumed that was today.  So that would put us at mid July. Instead we get Sept 12.  September.   SEPTEMBER 12th.  Getting used to being shined on.  At least we got the bathroom finished on Alki.  🫣.  On a positive note.  Getting to the Hawks game will be easier. #Staying on the island a little longer. 

    • Reason June 9, 2022 (7:29 pm)

      Well, you know what happens when you assume. 

  • Douglas Greenswag June 9, 2022 (7:06 pm)

    Think you could have done a better job?  Run for the council.  Think you know more about how long the repairs should take?  Buy the contractor, Kramer North America.  http://kraemerna.com/. They are a very well-respected company in this field.  Maybe the city should have hired a bunch of us and given us wheelbarrows and bags of cement from Home Depot. Could the city have done a better job watching the bridge?  I expect so, and hope that gets investigated in a public way.  But no one at SDOT today was around when it was designed and built. No one died or was even injured as a result of the flaws.  Has the city not closed the bridge it could have collapsed (like the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis where many died).  A collapse could and I expect would have taken out the lower bridge.  At rush hour I bet 1,000 would have died and commerce on the Duwamish would have been damaged badly by the blocked waterway.  I don’t like the inconvenience and delays and traffic snarls.  But at least all of us are around to bitch about it. 

    • Canton June 9, 2022 (8:18 pm)

      You probably shouldn’t mention the I-35 collapse.  It took a year and a month for them to fully replace…

      • Juicy Lucy June 9, 2022 (8:51 pm)

        Oh yes. Because the I-35W bridge and the WS bridge were exactly the same situations. If I had a nickel for every person who has mentioned this false equivalency…

        • Canton June 10, 2022 (12:27 am)

          They just had better people in charge with some sense of urgency. 

      • bill June 9, 2022 (9:15 pm)

        Canton: I-35 was a much easier structure to replace. And the timeline was speeded up by the unintended demolition.

        • Canton June 10, 2022 (12:31 am)

          Guess we needed a late night Antonio Chavez to get things moving.

          • Admyrl Byrd June 10, 2022 (10:24 am)

            Canton – you win the comments thread here.

      • Optimist June 10, 2022 (7:59 am)

        The I-35 bridge is roughly 5% the size of the WS high bridge, and it only goes over a river and a bike path. It’s an apples to oranges comparison for both the scale of a repair/replacement and the potential damage that a collapse would cause. 13 people died when I-35 collapsed (during rush hour). Given the scale of the WS bridge, that number would be in the 100s if the same had happened if it collapsed instead of being immediately closed down.

  • 30thAveSW June 9, 2022 (7:14 pm)

    If any of the delay between “mid-summer” and “during the week of September 12” (which I’m reading as September 17) is a result of “replacing overhead signs, replacing concrete panels east of 35th Ave SW, [and] installing concrete overlay on the Fauntleroy Expressway” then I’m going to be really pissed off.  This work will be done by different crews than those doing the repair and not having starting these items earlier (if it does delay full opening beyond mid-summer) will be totally inexcusable.

    • Fairmont June 9, 2022 (7:53 pm)

      That’s exactly what I think they’re attempting to cover up. Like did they not want to start that work until they knew the repair was good to go? If so then say that. Repaving around the bridge could have been done anytime before or after the concrete strike. Plus the funding was approved last year to do it. Why not just admit the ugly details and report what’s really happening behind the scenes…

    • Bronson June 10, 2022 (7:19 am)

      Just watch. They will wait past this delay before working on the planned concrete panel replacements EAST of the the high-rise on the Spokane street viaduct. They could be doing that work right now, but no, we will open up the bridge and then close down lanes further east. Incompetence at all levels in Seattle. 

      • MW June 10, 2022 (12:56 pm)

        Intentional incompetence.   This stuff is clearly tactical.  Bad faith actors who know we are their captives.  What can we do?  Vote? Pfft.   Better to write a book about the strategies they have used against us.  

        • BobbyJoe June 11, 2022 (12:32 pm)

          It’s getting really deep in here. You make up scenarios that have not occurred and then get mad and insult people over those non-existent scenarios. And THEN state that they are doing this purposefully just to upset the people. That is a whole new level of exceptional narcissistic delusion. Bravo. 

  • Beto June 9, 2022 (7:15 pm)

    This being Seattle, my estimate is that it may re-open by early November…

  • WET June 9, 2022 (7:46 pm)

    This is so frustrating and (un)believable and sucky and annoying. Do I recall correctly that the Mayor recently declined to approve millions of dollars in the budget for Bridge repairs? Shall we expect the Fremont/Univ/Montlake bridge to soon succumb to what the WS bridge has succumbed to, lack of addressing needing upgrades?For those of us that need our cars for work and have to drive 5+ miles out of the way  to get off our beautiful island,  the summer has just become more intolerable and rage-y. 

  • West Seattle Mad Sci Guy June 9, 2022 (7:48 pm)

    Am I the only one who thinks 5-10 people left 100+ comments sometimes using different names?  I’ve been suspicious of this ever since the belly aching commenters with remarkably identical ‘speaking’ styles (aka probably the same person using different names) about the concert in the parking lot across from Origins. I’m part of the ‘woohoo bridge in September’ crowd. That there may be a light at the end of the tunnel is great news. It’s been closed for years. If you haven’t adapted to the alternative yet, I wish you luck adapting to worsening health (with or without significant age) or other actual terrible news, because this ain’t that big of a thing in the scheme of things. I’ve had it rough for about a decade about ACTUAL life altering terrible news every few years and the bridge being out is like missing a red light because someone was looking at their phone in comparison.

  • Auntie June 9, 2022 (7:53 pm)

    It took me one hour and fifty minutes to get from Cottage Grove to First Hill today. An hour and a half of that was stop and go traffic backed up from a bridge opening. The 1st Ave S bridge opening/closing may only take 10-20 minutes, but the backups take a long, long time to clear. Whenever the West Seattle bridge opens, I will be happy. Even on the worst traffic days on the high bridge, it never took me almost two hours to get into town. I’m just hoping I don’t need to leave West Seattle again until September (or whenever the bridge is back in action). There’s no place like home…

    • East Coast Cynic June 10, 2022 (6:52 am)

      Are you talking about Cottage Grove on Delridge?  You could have taken the 120 on Delridge and caught a bus downtown, which would have taken the low bridge, to go to First Hill in much less time than driving.

  • Watertowerjim June 9, 2022 (8:43 pm)

    Idiots.  Vote them all out.  And please no “are you an engineer!!!!!!!” responses.  That’s so 2020 and so weak and pathetic!Vote. Them.  Out!

    • Jon Wright June 9, 2022 (11:17 pm)

      Vote them all out why? Because they know their constituents well enough to understand that any attempts to raise taxes to the level necessary to fund proper infrastructure maintenance would have resulted in them getting flayed alive? It’s not like the elected officials can conjure money out of thin air. If people want deferred maintenance of bridges and roads addressed, they have to be willing to pay for it. To date–despite of the sorry state of bridges in Seattle–that has not proven to be the case.

      • Colonel Mustard's Wrench June 10, 2022 (4:09 pm)

        Can you explain why Sam Zimbabwe was leaving money on the table at the end of each fiscal year – rather than fully spending the budget available to SDOT ?
        Imagine the projects that could have been handled if he had actually spent his budget !
        For many reasons, he deserved to lose his job.

    • Bobby Joe June 11, 2022 (12:04 pm)

      “No are you an engineer responses”That’s right we only want uninformed, ignorant responses from people who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Only wildly wrong information will be tolerated here. 

  • Joey June 9, 2022 (9:01 pm)

    Not upset by this news, not even upset at the teamsters union (if you blame them you’re deluded). I am upset that absolutely nothing, even remotely was done to ease this pain. When this first happened Dirken promised they would do everything possible to ease the pain of commuting. They literally left us to suffer out here. Even just putting a cop at major junctions (where everyone is funneling in to the on-ramps) once a week would solve the issue of selfish drivers cutting people off to trim down minutes of their commute. So frustrating to go through this every day, just left to dry.. 

  • Sparky June 9, 2022 (9:10 pm)

    Hey Herbold, here’s the questions you need to ask as our representative:

    1. What are the remaining critical path work items?
    2. Can you run through the week-by-week activities that will occur between now and September 12th (we have waiting months for this update so we do expect more than a date and pictures of the crew with a wheelbarrow)?
    3. What is SDOT doing today to expedite the reopening?
    4. What is SDOT doing to mitigate the risks to the schedule? 
    5. What is the single biggest risk to meeting your schedule?

    You should resign if you aren’t ready to fight for us.  

    • EJ June 10, 2022 (5:02 am)

      You are spot on that these are the kind of questions our Council member should be asking in response to SDOT’s surprising announcement of mid September; after months of SDOT saying they expected to still be able to reopen mid 2022.  In addition I would be asking what sort of early completion incentives, if any, SDOT has built into the construction contract; and if they have none…. why not… given the criticalness of this project achieving substantial completion ASAP.

    • Mark B June 10, 2022 (7:51 am)

      Bingo, and thank you. I just emailed her office and asked them to follow up on these questions, which might provide more info than asking if the timeline could be moved up a week. What answer did she expect? “Oh my goodness, we never thought of that; of course we can move it to Sept 6”?

  • wsgal June 9, 2022 (9:24 pm)

    Thank you to everyone working tirelessly to get the bridge back up and running.

    • West Seattle Mad Sci Guy June 9, 2022 (10:45 pm)

      Thank you for being one of the few folks that isn’t sour grapes about this news. 

    • SLS June 10, 2022 (8:04 am)

      Yes – thanks! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • MrB June 9, 2022 (9:24 pm)

    Only in Seattle is Sept 12 mid-year.  #faceplant 

  • CE Wannabe June 9, 2022 (9:41 pm)

    Looks like someone has a Groupon for civil engineering degrees. Can I get in on that so I can be a qualified commenter?

    • Delridge Resident June 10, 2022 (8:09 am)

      Ha!  I’m a civil engineer.  I’ve previously told my spouse I had there was no idea there was an armchair engineering firm in West Seattle. And if they think this shutdown is bad, then I can’t wait for the forums when the whole bridge has to be replaced… with an even larger population… a catastrophic event (like pandemic) reducing number of drivers on the roads… and likely more infrastructure built up around it!

      • East Coast Cynic June 10, 2022 (11:08 am)

        If Light Rail is in place when the whole bridge has to be replaced, and it will likely be in place, then that will ameliorate the transit situation.

  • Ben June 9, 2022 (10:05 pm)

    *Sigh…*

  • Felix Grounds June 9, 2022 (10:49 pm)

    I’m just here for the ridiculous complaints🤣

    • SLS June 10, 2022 (7:59 am)

      Haha! Me, too – I saw the Sept. 12 date and thought, “Oh good – the bridge is going to reopen.” Hats off to all involved – and the decision to repair vs. replace – probably prevented a large number of heads blowing off when they would have heard THAT timeline! 

  • Lisa Anne Jasper June 10, 2022 (12:02 am)

    I went on the comments section expecting lots of yipees and yays and happy comments….because it IS a happy announcement. It is wonderful! The bridge will be back! In September! Not long to go! So grateful. Thanks for the update. 

    • SLS June 10, 2022 (8:01 am)

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • Bus June 10, 2022 (1:12 am)

    Yeah, take the bus

  • G Man June 10, 2022 (5:17 am)

    I also wonder how many more West Seattle businesses will close by then

  • WSDad June 10, 2022 (7:15 am)

    The West Seattle Bridge was built in 1984. The top songs on
    the music charts was “When Doves Cry” Prince and “What’s love
    got to do with it” Tina Turner. West Seattle was a retirement community
    back then. The Junction was just old mom and pop shops
    and a train store. Everything changed when Amazon moved to Lake Union. Billions of people moved to Seattle and the city exploded with growth. The real estate
    market followed. It wasn’t until 2015 West Seattle popped up on peoples radar
    and became a hot area to live in. With all the growth the city was inundated with cars and trucks. The city could not keep up and the WS bridge was a victim of all the growth. Seattle is surround by water and we are limited to surface area. We will always have issues with roads in this area because of growth and land. Seattle knows that we cant just widen the roads like you can in Texas. We need to find other
    solutions to transportation in this city besides cars and trucks. It will be
    nice when the bridge is fixed but it will not fix the problem.

    • Rick June 10, 2022 (12:57 pm)

      I commuted to Kirkland in 1977-78 when we only had one small green drawbridge, total of four lanes and it was just fine. Of course I had hair then too. Things are a tad different now. Oh well…

  • Lola June 10, 2022 (7:16 am)

    I’m not holding my breath for September.  

  • Guy June 10, 2022 (7:19 am)

    These comments are hilarious. That is all. 

  • Optimist June 10, 2022 (7:47 am)

    Seesh, so much toxicity here. I’m just as ready as everyone to get the bridge back open, but it’s not like we live in a terrible place. There are much worse places to be “stuck” in. I guarantee you that these 100 or so angry commenters do not represent the majority of WS residents.It’s only three more months people, maybe pick up a new hobby or something to find a way to enjoy your life a little bit more and pass that time.

  • Seattle Is Seattley June 10, 2022 (7:57 am)

    They need to open the hov lanes on 1st S and 99 to all traffic. Its really crazy that city officials don’t care about our quality of life. 

  • Joan June 10, 2022 (8:14 am)

    I’m pretty sure that any date that was announced would be a “huge disappointment” to many people There’s no pleasing some. We survived the pandemic, we will survive the bridge repair a little longer. I hate it too, but I want to drive over a bridge that will not collapse. 

  • PP June 10, 2022 (9:00 am)

    These comments don’t make me feel good about living in West Seattle, to be quite honest. Bunch of angry, impatient, and miserable people here, many of them coming here to complain without any real knowledge of what’s transpired (throwing around “WSDOT” for example). Makes me sad to think that there are this many people living day-to-day with such a negative mindset. Lighten up a bit, have some patience, give folks the benefit of the doubt. Life’s better that way.

    • Bronson June 10, 2022 (10:18 am)

      Lol…”patience.” We are going to be well over 2.5 years from the bridge closing due to maintenance malfeasance by SDOT. We’ve watched SDOT dally around, try to get a legacy project consisting of a new bridge built instead of moving forward with repair with some expediency. We’ve watched SDOT maintain ridiculous rigidity on the low bridge hours instead of providing flexibility in non rush hour times. So pardon us if we seem a bit upset at the complete ineptitude which our government agencies, who work for us, aren’t doing there jobs up to par. It’s called accountability. 

  • Casey Mac June 10, 2022 (9:04 am)

    Up until yesterday I was supportive of SDOT at having to deal with a difficult situation.   A difficult decision to either repair or replace, a difficult management of a unique repair, and being in difficult times with Covid not to mention the extreme political pressure from the public.   But by not providing schedule ranges earlier and providing this date so late before, what many expected, an early July opening has caused this blowback.   Yes, scheduling is difficult with all complex projects but there are tools to manage that.  They should have been setting expectation earlier.

  • Jort June 10, 2022 (9:25 am)

    For those of you who are upset, I encourage you to consider getting on a bike or riding a bus, instead! Much less stressful, and it is very clear to me that stress is consuming almost all rational thought for some of you! Choose to be in traffic or choose an alternative, it’s up to you! :-)

    • Jay June 10, 2022 (11:53 am)

      Ah yeah, give up the hobbies of mountain biking and hiking. That’s a great solution. I’m a daily bike commuter Monday-Friday but my fellow commuters saying to give up my hobbies in the mountains are insufferable. I get caught in the detour and sit parked for every time I head out on a Saturday morning and the ride to get to i90 is absolutely miserable. It also eliminates the possibility of night MTB rides that I used to do weekly. Just don’t be so smug about it. And I have two friends who can’t even walk.

      • Kevin on Delridge June 10, 2022 (12:45 pm)

        You don’t have to give them up and no one is asking you to. Of course you would need to drive to the mountains.

        You see, many of the folks out driving when you’re trying to get to the mountains are doing normal everyday stuff. Shopping and other errands. Not everyone is headed out to the mountains.

        If instead of driving for those things people (including yourself) took the bus, walked, rode a bike, etc then the roads would be more clear for you to get where you’re going.

        And your friends that can’t walk, the roads are more clear for them as well if we didn’t default to driving or build our places and infrastructure to essentially require driving.

        • Reed June 11, 2022 (8:14 am)

          What Kevin said, Mr. Speidell.

  • norsegirl June 10, 2022 (9:25 am)

    I’m not an engineer. And I know this is a cynical remark. It is not based on fact.  It is based on emotion.  It is how I’ve come to feel about my experiences of the last 2+ years of bridge(s) closure.The bridge will open 2-6  month from Sept.   It will be used vigorously for about  6 months and then a crack or something will be found.  Immediate closure.  Repeat debate of rebuilt vs tear down and build anew, contractors…all the things suffered with the current fix.  In the process there might be various strikes, product shortages, changing city administration with changing priorities, etc.  The bridge will be closed for many years.  2 years closed and long alternate route will seem like a sweet deal.

    • Jay June 10, 2022 (11:49 am)

      This 100%. I thought the engineers’ “rapid replace” solution to give us a 100 year bridge in 18 months of construction was excellent. I’m upset they chose the temporary “kick the can down the road a bit” solution that ended up taking as long as the rapid replace option would have.

    • MW June 10, 2022 (1:25 pm)

      Eventually you start to recognize and anticipate the moves of your torturers.  I agree.  

    • Ted From Cancun June 12, 2022 (6:24 pm)

      I’m with you to Norsegirl.  I just wrote down below about allowing freight trucks and articulated buses plying on the top bridge.  Prudent choice will be to route them on the lower bridge since it seems to be working great.  

  • Delridge resident June 10, 2022 (10:09 am)

    Holy hell yall are ravenous and insatiable. What’s a few more months on years of waiting? Why all the vitriol when you know dang well this is what happens in bureaucracies. Chill out, people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • wetone June 10, 2022 (10:24 am)

    Hopefully the voters learn something from this event and hold Seattle government to higher standards in choosing a new SDOT leader, as their last few choices were failure’s…Scott Kubly, Sam  Zimbabwe and now who’s leading ? We need a leader that has proper experience in all phases of transportation, not just bike lanes or walking paths  (both very important) but also vehicles, along with being knowledgeable in hiring proper staff to run SDOT. SDOT is a mess today and needs a total top to bottom rebuilding. As a life long West Seattle resident I also don’t expect seeing  traffic ever get much better than today due to Seattle government pushing all the new builds, in some areas as junction increasing population 2x. Then      there is T5 port issue, a terrible place for a port as ingress egress are worse case at best and will have huge impacts with traffic and noise ;)

  • Carole June 10, 2022 (10:41 am)

    it might as well rain until September……

  • TZ June 10, 2022 (11:05 am)

    Complaints, frustrations and pointed fingers aside, I’m just hoping the bridge actually opens period. Whenever. However. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that the bridge will have to he demolished after all is said and done. If I’m wrong, that’ll be a relief. But I don’t have the utmost faith at this point and will be in just as much shock when it opens as I was when it closed.

  • Richard June 10, 2022 (11:16 am)

    The lower bridge SHOULD NOT have the same closure times on WEEKENDS as it does on WEEKDAYS.  Whoever came up with that original schedule just punted without giving it any thought. 

    There are far fewer trucks & business vehicles traveling on weekends, & far fewer commuters going to work. 

    I’m not suggesting opening the low bridge all day on weekends, maybe leave it open to all until 11am & then re-open to all at 7pm.  But the current low bridge weekend schedule is ridiculous! 

    Lisa Herbold, how about thinking outside the box for once & do something, ANYTHING, to help improve access on weekends across the Duwamish.

  • Mark47n June 10, 2022 (11:16 am)

    For all of those that are clutching their hearts and heads (as they have MIs and strokes) as they rage on about the bridge, SDOT, the Council, Mayor, ferries, traffic, the price of fuel…: I like to picture all of you in a large room, each standing on top of a soap box, screaming your comments to no one in particular.  Perhaps some passersby wander between you from time to time and maybe get their own boxes. It reminds me of prairie dogs .

  • Chris K June 10, 2022 (11:19 am)

    What is it about automobiles that fills so many people with rage?  It’s only a few more months.  I promise the wait won’t kill you.

  • Scott Walker June 10, 2022 (2:24 pm)

    To be honest I’ll be surprised it happens in September and I am surprised that they are only claiming a couple months later than the original June promise.  Look at the 99 tunnel, years late.  

  • Bridge bummer June 10, 2022 (2:30 pm)

    Here’s the good news. The bridge didn’t collapse, killing dozens if not more. This was engineering and bureaucracy actually working. I-35 in MN, the Morandi Bridge in Italy, I-85 in Atlanta are not perfect comparisons. They all failed, killing many in the case of I-35 and Morandi. So we have that one big win in our pockets. However, everything related to this replacement project since this initial success has been a failure. In each of the comparable cases above, a complete replacement was made in less time than we have spent with the closure already: 18 months in Italy, a little over a year in MN, 6 weeks in Atlanta.I’ll be happy when the bridge re-opens, but this timeline has been a failure. The bureaucracy failed here. Arguments about the concrete strike over the last few months don’t seem that meaningful to me. Sure, that seemed to cause a delay. But the bridge repairs should have been scoped, bid, designed and implemented by August 2021 at the latest.

  • Spicy Eight Piece June 10, 2022 (3:12 pm)

    I bet the gondola could be built to help us all until the bridge opens.

  • Quiz June 10, 2022 (3:23 pm)

    2.5 years to fix a bridge. Hard to comprehend.

  • 2cents June 10, 2022 (4:24 pm)

    Ya’ll act like they didn’t say “mid year.” Mid year is code for 3rd qtr at best. C’mon.

  • ch June 10, 2022 (6:02 pm)

    Maybe some of the impatience is because the WS bridge closure so closely followed the years of delays and disruption caused by tunnel construction.

  • Leo June 11, 2022 (9:35 am)

    I listened to enough of the meeting to make my stomach turn. Seeing the speakers attempt to spin this positively felt disingenuous–i have doubts that many of them had to wade through the daily slog.Q: Why isn’t there a plan to expand low bridge hours? 9pm-5am serves almost no one.

  • Ted from Cancun June 12, 2022 (6:13 pm)

    Will those huge freight trucks and buses be using the top bridge?  I’m apprehensive about this being that we just essentially superglued it and it may make sense to still route them onto the lower bridge.  The road by Target just shows you how damaging these buses are.  It’s as if you are going down or up a set of stairs.  They seemed to have leveled it with asphalt.  Now imagine what effect this will have if all buses are still plying on the top bridge.  Once I was riding my bike on the lower bridge when an articulated bus passed by,  and it’s the same feeling as if you just downed a few shots of tequila.

  • Biker June 14, 2022 (1:47 pm)

    It really is  a bummer that SDOT wasted so much time on this repair. I spoke to WSP’s lead engineer at a presentation he gave a group of engineers and asked him point blank, “so, if this was another client, this bridge was open a year ago, yeah?,” and he said, “sure, yes.”  SDOT was chicken shit about the viability of the repair AND used the artificially created emergency to fund all their pet projects (right in the back yard of all those SDOT employees who “share your pain”.) (my words, not his, lest he face the wrath of his client who’s got him on a tight NDA leash)  It’s gross and I’m tired of it.  Yes, OK, having the bridge open one lane only in each direction might slow the contractor down, but you could have done that ages ago.  If the opening date is being pushed because you waited forever to do your works around the actual structural repair, shame on you again.  New technical leadership is needed at SDOT.Heather Marks, the Contractor strike is not the reason SDOT is  behind schedule.  SDOT is behind schedule because they chose to take their contractor off the project, wait a year, and then re-assemble them under a new contract.  SDOT chose not to put their faith in the structural engineering experts, both those you employed at WSP and those who volunteered their time the the TAP committee of the CTF.  Every expert in the room was telling you to fix the bridge.  SDOT chose to stall it. But, yes, it sure is good news we’ll have the bridge back this September.  Woot.  Woot.

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